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One for Peerie Ma maybe. I was looking at a local website where some of the local boats were featured.

http://www.llanbedrog.com/regetta/regetta.jpg

Llanbedrog regatta, probably pre-WW2. I'm not sure which 8 m this is, but if I had a name I could date it a little better. - having delved into one of my UF books i think she is 'Saskia'

http://www.llanbedrog.com/regetta/regeta2.jpg

http://www.llanbedrog.com/regetta/regeta3.jpg

http://www.llanbedrog.com/regetta/tac_bwi_gamlas_am_raber.jpg

here's some more local boats:

http://www.llanbedrog.com/cychod/nans.jpg

http://www.llanbedrog.com/cychod/Nans_ben_bryn.jpg

The 'Nans' - I love this boat, she has a lovely hull form

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http://www.llanbedrog.com/cychod/runag_1904_50.jpg

'Runag' - unbeatable in her day.

http://www.llanbedrog.com/cychod/runag_1950.jpg

sporting her later 1950's rig, she just was'nt the same.. ended up in Liverpool, unsure where now

http://www.llanbedrog.com/cychod/Greta_cwch_penbryn.jpg


'Greta' - later the 'Saphire'

http://www.llanbedrog.com/cychod/gwylan_cwch_adon.jpg


'Gwylan'

that's all for now.

[Peerie Maa]

Lovely quality photos of lovely boats.
I'm certainly interested as there are three boats there that look like nobbys sold out of fishing, marked with a cross.
http://i408.photobucket.com/albums/pp164/peerie_maa/regeta2.jpg

The one to windward has the fishing nobby deck layout:
http://www.llanbedrog.com/regetta/tac_bwi_gamlas_am_raber.jpg

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A bigger photo of 'Nansi' or 'the Nanse' as she was known:

http://www.llanbedrog.com/traeth/Nans_ben_bryn.jpg

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Peerie I suspect most of the information you want will be held in the South Caernarfonshire Yacht Club [SCYC] in Abersoch.

I'll dig around some more.

[Nicholas Carey]

I'm not sure which 8 m this is, but if I had a name I could date it a little better. - having delved into one of my UF books i think she is 'Saskia'

http://www.llanbedrog.com/regetta/regeta2.jpg
K3 is SIRIS (http://www.8mr.org.uk/world_eights/uk.html#siris), designed/built 1925 by Morgan Giles for Sir Arthur Paget. Restored by Fairlie (http://www.fairlierestorations.com). Still sailing. Still racing. And for sale:

http://www.8mr.org.uk/boats_sale_8_siris.html

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Hmmm....I wonder whetehr she was 'doing the circuit' or just joined in on a stop-over on her way back to the Clyde from the S. Coast [or on her way there].
IIRC the regatta at Llanbedrog was traditionally in the first two weeks of August, before the more prestigeous Abersoch bash around the 14th.
it fell into decline after WWII. My father tried to re-invigourate it in the '50's - going round to wrest the trophies back from recalcitrent previous winners, and it ran until the early 60's and then ended.

[Stephen]

Nick - any idea if this Prawner is still around? She was owned by Richard Twist - a previous owner of Carlotta.
http://lh6.ggpht.com/_iulELwC8zFc/SvHnZgGC3SI/AAAAAAAAAKE/Tcukz0f_Ct8/s512/wo49.jpg

[Nicholas Carey]

Nick - any idea if this Prawner is still around? She was owned by Richard Twist - a previous owner of Carlotta.Got me. Metre boats are easy. They have yacht racing associations. I just went to the UK's 8m association web site and looked for sail number K3 -- they don't reuse sail numbers. K stands for England (King's own, doncha know. Canadian boats had KC sail numbers (King's Canadian).

With the SIRIS photos, A little research in the newspapers and yachting press at the time, would probably turn up the exact date and year of the photos -- yacht racing results being duly reported as news. Even easier since the regatta is known and the dates when it was habitually held. Narrows the field down considerable.

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With the SIRIS photos, A little research in the newspapers and yachting press at the time, would probably turn up the exact date and year of the photos -- yacht racing results being duly reported as news. Even easier since the regatta is known and the dates when it was habitually held. Narrows the field down considerable.

Not in Wales it does'nt! :D

It might be possible to find it in the local paper, if they kept any archives [National Library of Wales], but to be honest I think I can probably go and track the year down by asking around the village. It may be that there are copies of the photos in the plastic bag of pics our family laughingly calls the album

the more I think about it, the more I reckon it's from maybe 1933 -1936 when my dad worked the launches as a 13year old and had his first sailing experiences. He used to talk a lot about sailing the nobbies. By late '36 he was with the Blue Funnel line and was out in the far east.
after the war the old nobbies faded away and the 6m boats[Kyla, Kyria, Iras] came in and were the form boats. Runag got her bermudan rig then to try and get on level terms.. by the late fities there were a couple of 30sq's [Austral being one I forget the other, the name began with a T] 2 West Solent one designes and a 22 sq as well as a few Dragons.

[Peerie Maa]

Nick - any idea if this Prawner is still around? She was owned by Richard Twist - a previous owner of Carlotta.
http://lh6.ggpht.com/_iulELwC8zFc/SvHnZgGC3SI/AAAAAAAAAKE/Tcukz0f_Ct8/s512/wo49.jpg

Probably not, they have mostly been worked to death. I'll ask a mate who may know.

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If anyone has any information as to the provenance of the Nans, I'd like to hear from them.

[Peerie Maa]

Nick - any idea if this Prawner is still around? She was owned by Richard Twist - a previous owner of Carlotta.
http://lh6.ggpht.com/_iulELwC8zFc/SvHnZgGC3SI/AAAAAAAAAKE/Tcukz0f_Ct8/s512/wo49.jpg

Hi Stephen,
Not lost but no longer with us. My mate came up trumps.
Oh yes, I know Seafisher very well, including her last resting place (A little fishing village called Heswall). She struggled with leaks and old age during a storm in the 1960s, filled, and sank opposite the slip, she was quickly raised and sold on but her condition was against her and she sank almost immediately again this time filling with sand and sinking deep into the mud in the gutter. Bits of her are still there.

[Stephen]

Thank-you, Nick. I will add this information to my files on C.
cheers!
Stephen