looking for something like an O'Day Daysailer

[Charles Neuman]

I'm looking for a wooden boat plan for a boat that would be a lot like the O'Day Daysailer (16'9" open daysailer, forward cuddy area, seats along the sides, 575 lbs hull weight, centerboard). In other words, a great trailerable family daysailer.

Here are some photos:
http://daysailer.org/images/DS1S.JPG

http://daysailer.org/images/DS2_at_dock.gif

Can anybody recommend some plans for something like this? But made of wood, of course! I was thinking maybe a Weekender without the cabin. However, I'm hesitant to modify plans since I don't know what effect it might have or how it would turn out.

Charles

[ 08-27-2004, 03:06 PM: Message edited by: Charles Neuman ]

[Dennis Marshall]

Might I suggest this beauty, Dobler 16, a 16'4"x5'2" daysailer, about 200lbs and a heckuva good boat. There is storage under the foredeck and under the sternsheets. -- Dennis
http://jonesboats.com/Images/doble16.jpg

[ 08-27-2004, 03:11 PM: Message edited by: Dennis Marshall ]

[Keith Wilson]

You can get plans for the Dobler 16 from Thomas Firth Jones here. (http://www.jonesboats.com/dobler16.html) Joe Dobler was one of the best little- known small boat designers around.

John Welsford has several designs (http://www.jwboatdesigns.co.nz/plans/plans.htm) in that range, the 15' Navigator being probably the most popular.

http://www.jwboatdesigns.co.nz/projects/hodgkinson/21_0016.jpg

If you'd be interested in something a little larger (about the size of an O'Day Mariner/Rhodes 19 rather than the Daysailer), how about a Bolger Chebacco boat?

http://www.instantboats.com/images/chebacco.gif

[ 08-27-2004, 03:32 PM: Message edited by: Keith Wilson ]

[Charles Neuman]

Several great suggestions. Thanks!

Until now I have never looked at plans that involved a yawl rig before, because I never really understood it. What's the story? Does having a third sail help keep the main sail smaller? Does it improve performance at all? Is it hard to sail, with three sails to worry about? Or do you sort of set the after sail and then forget it?

The Navigator and Pathfinder seem to have a sloop rig option as well, but I'm starting to get more interested in the yawl rig.

Charles

[Meerkat]

Hehe... for a small boat, a yawl rig is like having a couple of extra gears plus reverse! (no joke).

When the weather pipes up, you drop the main and run on the mizzen and jib and still have a balanced rig. When it gets even worse, drop the mizzen and procede on the jib. If it gets too bad to sail, drop the jib, hoist the mizzen hauled in tight and stream a sea anchor.

Trying to back out of a slip with the wind behind you? Flip the mizzen around and beat off backwards (no matter HOW risque that sounds! :D ). Coming into the dock too fast? Backwind the mizzen!

And if you find yourself wanting to camp aboard ever, the mizzen mast makes a place to tie off the boom to act as the ridge pole for the tent.

Makes for some really pretty pics too! ;)

http://home.xtra.co.nz/hosts/david77/looking.jpg
http://home.xtra.co.nz/hosts/david77/dave_gen.jpg
http://home.xtra.co.nz/hosts/david77/downhillheaven.jpg
Navigator "Jaunty" - see more at http://www.openboat.co.nz/

[ 08-27-2004, 05:34 PM: Message edited by: Meerkat ]

[Meerkat]

The Navigator and the larger Pathfinder both do well in "squeaky" weather too. This is a pic of a Pathfinder taken from a Navigator:
http://home.xtra.co.nz/hosts/david77/varunabeating.jpg

[Venchka]

For $2,200 you can buy a Day Sailer I in New Jersey.

http://www.sailboatshop.com/pages/used_boats/UsedDSI.jpg

Sails and a trailer for a new boat will cost more than that. Buy the D/S for sailing now while you build something that is different.

Wayne
In the Swamp. :D

[Charles Neuman]

I just caught the current thread about the Meadowbird 16. Another great choice. Not only that, I just found a thread that offers many suggestions to my original question:

"Topic: My Next Fantasy" (http://media5.hypernet.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=2;t=003386)

[Chris Krumm]

WoodenBoat issue #130, page 114 has a review of a 17' LOA ultralight beach cruiser/daysailer by Robert Stephens that might be just what you're looking for. Options to build in strip plank or cold moulded. Centerboard, simple sloop rig, open cuddy...

BTW, anyone seen one of these built and sailing?

Chris Krumm

[Ray Frechette Jr]

Perhaps one of B&B's Core sounds.

http://www.bandbyachtdesigns.com/cs17.htm

Clean open cockpit designs with a forward storage compartment and a bit of deck overhang to shield some stuff on the forward seats. Not quite a cuddy cabin but easy enough to ad if you want. No structural issues to adding one. Weight is spot on with your desires, easy to build, and it gets up on a plane quite readily in a fair breeze.

Cat Ketch rig has definite appeal over sloop to me.

[ahp]

I believe that the O'Day DaySailor was originally designed and built cold molded in England.

[Hwyl]

Originally posted by ahp:
I believe that the O'Day DaySailor was originally designed and built cold molded in England.It was designed by Uffa Fox and is a bigger version of his Albacore. Apparently he did not approve of the cuddy.