I'm new here..

[kayaker1]

Hi All,

I've been seriously toying with the idea of building a small sailboat. Have the plans for a weekender but have not had the time to start it. My feeling now is I want something simpler. I remembered I had taken a photo of a small sailboat in Nova Scotia a few years ago that I really liked.

here it is..

http://community.webshots.com/photo/76278536/1076280292041263145xITLkY

Anybody have any idea what this is and if any plans are available.

Thanks!

Andy

[Paul Pless]

I can't help you with the ID, but I'd like to welcome you to the board.

I'm sure someone here can help you though.

[StevenBauer]

Here she is:

http://image06.webshots.com/6/8/2/92/76280292xITLkY_ph.jpg

Michael will know. smile.gif Is the MMA the Maritime Museum of the Atlantic? http://museum.gov.ns.ca/mma/index.html

Steven

Edited to add: You don't really think she is simpler than a weekender, do you?

[ 03-11-2006, 09:21 PM: Message edited by: StevenBauer ]

[Rob Hazard]

You may find something similar to this if you look through Howard Chapelle's book, "American Small Sailing Craft".
It doesn't look like an easy job for a first time builder, though.

[kayaker1]

No,

I know it's not simpler, simple is not the issue. What I meant by simple was not the construction of it, but rather a somewhat smaller boat and more manageable to transport. And I like the looks of it. Don't know anything about the sailing characteristics, but would like to find out.

MMA...I should have figured that out, thanks. Just after we saw the boat we went into the museum.

And thanks for the welcome!

I have built this..I'm a pretty good woodworker, have built quite a few things, but only one boat so far.

http://community.webshots.com/photo/60275383/1060582378041263145uZoiWV


Andy

[ 03-11-2006, 10:42 PM: Message edited by: kayaker1 ]

[mmd]

EDIT:

"The boat in the picture is the "Elson Perry", a replica of a circa 1890 Labrador Whaler built by Eammon Doorly at the Maritime Museum of the Atlantic."

The above italicized bold phrase is incorrect. It was late last night and I had already taken my pain meds before bed when I wrote it, and I was apparently a bit befuddled.

The Elson Perry, though built by Eammon and the museum staff at the MMA, "is based on a Nova Scotia small craft that was used on the Medway River, Queens County around the turn of the 20th century. Known simply as a Port Medway boat, the museum has an example in its collection which is on display during the summer months in one of their boatsheds on the Halifax waterfront. It was from this particular boat that staff took lines for their Millennium Boat.

The museum's original Port Medway boat was built near the end of the 19th century by Elson Perry, a lightkeeper for Port Medway. In 1929, Elson Perry's boat was laid up in a shed and was left undisturbed until she was donated to the Maritime Museum of the Atlantic in 1985. In recognition of the builder and owner of this 19th century craft, museum staff named the replica Elson Perry. With the exception of mahogany for the sheer strakes, Elson Perry has been built using the same locally available materials as was used in building the original.

(From the MMA website.) (http://www.gov.ns.ca/news/details.asp?id=20000623007)

http://www.boatdesign.net/gallery/data/500/medium/sailing_-_port_profile.JPG

http://www.boatdesign.net/gallery/data/500/medium/sailing_-_stbd_profile.JPG

http://www.boatdesign.net/gallery/data/500/medium/sailing_-_stbd_bow.JPG

My original comments about the Labrador Whaler:

The boat was originally built for use in the summer cod fishery on the coast of Labrador. The boats were built in several communities on Nova Scotia's South Shore - this one's ancestor was built in Lunenburg, but they were also built in Shelburne and Lockport. They were transported on the deck of a larger ship (most likely a square-rigged ship or multi-masted ocean schooner) to the Labrador coast where fishermen used them in the near-shore cod fishery. Note that the foresail is boomless, so that it was easily brailed up out of the way of the fishermen hauling nets over the side.They were usually abandoned on Labrador beaches after only a season or two. as it was more economical to abandon them than to transport them back & forth and pay for repairs.

Re-creating the builder's drawings from the original, deteriorating drawings was one of the first jobs I did for the MMA. She is a lovely boat, sails like a witch, but is not an easy boat to build. Not beyond an experienced amateur, but it shouldn't be a 'first boat'."

... were referring to this boat, built by Cliff Zwicker at the Fisheries Museum in Lunenburg:

http://www.boatdesign.net/gallery/data/500/medium/Labrador_whaler_stbd_profile.jpg

http://www.boatdesign.net/gallery/data/500/medium/Labrador_whaler_interior.jpg

I apologise for the confusion.

[ 03-12-2006, 11:11 AM: Message edited by: mmd ]

[kayaker1]

Thank You!

More info than I expected! When I saw it tied up by the wharf, I took several photo's of it. I liked the lines and the look of it.

Any suggestions for a similar hull shape, that utilizes a single mast?

Andy

[StevenBauer]

Do you know of Iain Oughtred's Boats? Or Arch Davis? John Welsford?

Lots of people have built to these guy's plans. One of them will have somethibg that catches your eye.

www.classicmarine.co.uk/boatsearch.asp (http://www.classicmarine.co.uk/boatsearch.asp)

www.by-the-sea.com/archdavisdesign/ (http://www.by-the-sea.com/archdavisdesign/)

www.jwboatdesigns.co.nz/ (http://www.jwboatdesigns.co.nz/)

Or something a little more historically accurate look at John Gardners books, maybe your library has them.

Steven

[paladin]

welcome to the forum....

[PVanderwaart]

Peter Culler designed a few boats that might have similar appeal, especially the 19 1/2 foot "Shallop for George Putz". The Concordia daysailor and the Buzzards Bay boat aren't really that like the boat pictured, but might appeal.

Another boat to look at is YMT's Summer Afternoon Schooner. http://www.tantonyachts.com/images6.htm#image941

Peter

[mmd]

Please go back and re-read my earlier posting - I had made a grievous error in identification o fthe boat, and have corrected my posting. Sorry for the confusion. redface.gif

[kayaker1]

Thanks for the update. And thanks for the links from the rest of you. This site is a great resource and I'll have to educate myself a lot more!

Andy

[ 03-12-2006, 01:35 PM: Message edited by: kayaker1 ]