simple Skiff to match my 15hp short shaft

[TomMcKinney]

I'm looking for a simple skiff to build around my equally simple 15hp outboard. I have plans for Glen-L's sweet caroline, which is rate 10-40hp, but that seems a bit big. Was thinking of a plywood 5.3 meter FAO boat-- but the recomended power is 8hp or less. Gardners 14ft flat iron from the Dory Book is a third Ira Insteins Herring skiff was considered but the link I have is dead. I want to fish as far offsahore as possible for a small boat so sea keeping over speed is best (which makes the sweet caroline look even better)
Thansk for the input

[Tar Devil]

Ed Monk's "Fisherman" comes to mind...

From The Little Boat Shop:

The Fisherman by Ed Monk

Here is a great classic designed by on of the most noted Naval Architects Of our time. She is 16' with a beam of 5'9". She has a raised deck with a hatch and spray rail. We modernized her construction with BS 1088 Marine Plywood and glass the bottom and topsides with 10 oz fabric. She will take up to 20 hp and make a classic fishing boat. She is trimmed out with Honduras mahogany and when completed is sure to turn all heads.

Later,

Phil

[Steve Paskey]

How about the 16-foot San Juan Dory (http://www.nexusmarine.com/san_juan_dory.html), from Nexus Marine?

Plans are $75, available from Nexus or WoodenBoat.

http://www.nexusmarine.com/images/16%27Dory/fast_prof_color.jpg

[ 05-01-2005, 09:03 PM: Message edited by: Steve Paskey ]

[Chris Stewart]

Originally posted by TomMcKinney:
I'm looking for a simple skiff to build around my equally simple 15hp outboard. I have plans for Glen-L's sweet caroline, which is rate 10-40hp, but that seems a bit big. Was thinking of a plywood 5.3 meter FAO boat-- but the recomended power is 8hp or less. Gardners 14ft flat iron from the Dory Book is a third Ira Insteins Herring skiff was considered but the link I have is dead. I want to fish as far offsahore as possible for a small boat so sea keeping over speed is best (which makes the sweet caroline look even better)
Thansk for the inputThe Sweet Caroline is rated to 40hp because it is a planing hull, while the FAO 5.3m boat is a displacement hull and more than 8hp would be wasted. The San Juan dory may require a long shaft motor (at least the pictures show one).

[rbgarr]

Harry Bryan's 15' Handy Billy design isn't as simple as a plywood skiff, but it doesn't have to have all the decking, etc., and is designed for a short shaft 15hp OB in a well.

[DavesFlatsBoat]

How about a Welsford design? Says it's designed for 15hp!

http://www.jwboatdesigns.co.nz/plans/trover/index.htm

http://www.jwboatdesigns.co.nz/plans/trover/Trover.jpg

[Keith Wilson]

How 'bout Phil Bolger's Diablo? Taped-seam construction, not at all bad looking, and easy to build. You can get plans from Dynamite Payson (http://www.instantboats.com), or right out of his book "Build the New Instant Boats".

http://www.diabloboat.homestead.com/files/skiffGultchE.jpg

[jlapratt]

San Juan Dory requires a 20" shaft. 15 hp would move it along if you built it light. Great boat! (I built one)

Jeff

[pipefitter]

Or a small Garvey? I looked at the San Juan Dory hard when I started considering building a boat.All the power dories actually before settling on the Simmons. I too had a motor I had to build a boat around.

[ 05-02-2005, 09:28 PM: Message edited by: pipefitter ]

[RodB]

If your going with ply panel construction (stitch and glue or taped seam) you could get Tracy Obrien [ www.tracyobrien.com (http://www.tracyobrien.com) ]to design you what you wanted specific to bow shape, beam, length, displacement etc very reasonable and get his input on a solution for your intended use...

His skiff design with laminated sheer decks (probably 4 inches wide in your application, mine are 12 inches wide) that run from bow to stern "close the box" so to speak and allow for much lighter construction and make for a very stiff strong hull... My design is more complex and heavier construction than you would want but you can see the inate stiffness of the non-torquing hull,

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid147/p74ed1c74fe2f6f80963cb0a84866f783/f63520e6.jpg

RB

[ 05-03-2005, 02:38 PM: Message edited by: RodB ]

[Steve Paskey]

Diablo's a nice design but Bolger wrote: "Diablo is designed for long-shaft motors. She has a 19-1/2 inch vertical transom that ought not to be cut lower as there is no slop well." On the other hand, Dynamite Payson wrote that she worked very well with the 20 hp short-shaft Mercury he used by mistake . . .

You might contact Dynamite and ask him about it. See www.instantboats.com (http://www.instantboats.com)

[Steve Paskey]

On looking back at John Welsford's site, I think the Trover was designed for a short-shaft. (Note the well at the stern.)

She's one of two boats John designed as part of a project to help fishermen in East Timor. Here's the other, known as the Clarence River Dory (or Fat Canoe).

www.jwboatdesigns.co.nz/plans/clarenceriverdory/index.htm (http://www.jwboatdesigns.co.nz/plans/clarenceriverdory/index.htm)

The original version of this design was specifically modified to take a 15-hp short shaft, as the UN had a bunch of 'em in a warehouse somewhere. She's 21 feet long, but can be easily shortened to any length between that and 16 feet.

John reports that the East Timorese use their "fat canoes" to chase tuna miles offshore in the tradewinds . . .