Tad Roberts-Tillikum

[holzbt]

I'm looking for comments about this design from any of the designer types hanging around here. I'm intrigued by this design and wonder what others think of it. Part of my interest stems from the fact that I consider 3' draft to be deep and 4' to be extreme. The chinese lug looks interesting also but I have no experience with them.
Thanks,
Roger

[Aramas]

Got any links? Tadroberts.com seems to be dead and I couldn't find anything on google.

[ion barnes]

I dont have anything thats 'for sure' but Tillikum resides in the Maritine Museium in Victoria BC. There have been a couple of books written about Voss' adventure but I am not clear about a study of the boat. I could make some enquiries after New Years and report back. Ion

[Meerkat]

You're familiar with "40,000 Miles in a Canoe" ?

[ 12-31-2003, 03:24 AM: Message edited by: Meerkat ]

[ion barnes]

Maritime Museum of British Columbia is www.mmbc.bc.ca/ (http://www.mmbc.bc.ca/)

[Aramas]

I might be spinning in air here, but I assumed that Tad Roberts is a currently active designer (I read something about him moving to BC recently) and that the Tillicum mentioned was one of his designs rather than the canoe that the old snake oil salesman Voss went a-roving in.

[John Bell]

Tad Roberts is an occasional contributor here. Maybe he'll chime in.

The Tillikum design the original poster is asking about is featured the latest WB #176. It's a flush decked barge yacht, 32' LOA.

I think it's an attractive design, except for the rig.

[Donn]

Tad just posted, on the commercial fishing boat thread, last night. His handle is TR.

[TR]

Yes, I'm around.

I can't really explain the name association between my design and that of Voss's boat. I don't think I was trying to relate the two. The name, (from a list that I keep) just seemed to fit.

The rig is designed to be inexpensive to build, and extremely easy to handle without leaving the cockpit. As you can from the cockpit reef by slacking the main halyard, sail area can be large and mostly in one sail.

All the best, thanks for your interest, I would be happy to answer any questions, online or off.

Tad

[Jack Heinlen]

BTW, the original Tilikum is profiled quite nicely in WB 121. Oddly, I'd just reread it when I came across this thread.

Even if it wasn't the original question, it's well worth a read. I can't believe what they did with that canoe! Fascinating intemperance.

[holzbt]

Hi Tad,
I'll start out with a few basic ?'s.
Has this design ever been built? What is the headroom down below? What is spec'd for power. What are the mast heights above the WL? Are there tabernacles or could they easily be fitted to the masts. What was the inspiration for this design?
I've got many more but perhaps this is enough to get a discusion going about what looks to me to be an ideal coastal cruiser.

Thanks,
Roger

[TR]

Roger;

All good questions.

Tilikum has not been built, with the exception of Ratty, all eight of these boats are currently on their first public outing in WoodenBoat.

There is a raised hatch trunk, 3' wide, that extends forward from the main hatch to the forward head bulkhead. This provides 6'3" of headroom in the central, walking around, part of the boat. The trunk has four opening skylights in it over the main cabin, galley , and in the head. Outboard of the trunk, headroom is about 5'6".

The engine is a Yanmar 2GM, about 16 HP continuous at 3300 RPM, where I would never run it. The boat will require about 4 HP on a good 3-bladed prop, to cruise at 6 knots in a flat calm with a clean bottom. That's about 2400 RPM on this engine, which is about as fast as you would want to run her. The engine is offset to starboard of the aft centerboard case, with batteries and other heavy items on the port side to offset the weight.

The cap of the mainmast is about 36'6" above DWL, the mizzen cap is 22'6" above DWL. The mainmast is in a tabernacle in the forward well deck. The tabernacle is about 4'6" tall. The aft gallows keeps the main mast out of the cockpit when it's folded down. The mizzen is fairly light, depending on your inclination you could just lift it out, but a small tabernacle could also be fitted.

The main inspiration behind this boat was a wish to create a boat of what I would call, "very shallow draft", that has decent accommodation, and is (IMO) beautiful. As I mention in the article, she owes much to the work of Phil Bolger. But she is also the most recent in a line of "barge yachts" or sailing scows that go back to my 1985 design, Harry. Harry is a giant plywood pram, with raised deck, leeboards, and Thames barge spritsail rig. The aesthetics of that boat left something to be desired, which I struggled with for years, and came to Tilikum.

All the best, Tad

[ion barnes]

I am sorry. Just dumb as a stick arnt I? Ion