Baby Bootlegger

[Newtsuit]

Hi all,
Does anyone know where plans for the baby bootlegger, designed by George Crouch, can be obtained?

Steve

[TR]

Contact Ships Plans at Mystic Seaport, they have some of the Crouch drawings.

Tad

[Ross M]

Snagged this from rec.boats.building a few years back, courtesy Jim Rudholm:

They are available from the Ship's Plans Service, Mystic Seaport, P. O.
Box 6000, Mystic,Conn.06355-0990. $10/sheet for non-members, $7/sheet
for members. They have 4 sheets: lines, offsets, construction sections,
construction plan.

Ross

[Peter Malcolm Jardine]

The real problem is where to get the Hispano Suiza aircraft engine for her... ;)

[holzbt]

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid61/p42a101bb2e31196d4e6671997a13dd37/fc25eacb.jpg

Would something like this work? It's the original engine from "IMP".

[Ross M]

-insert Homer drool-

[ 09-02-2004, 09:19 PM: Message edited by: Ross M ]

[nedL]

Roger, that better not be in your shop!!!! :D :D

[warthog5]

I'd sure like to see more closup pix's of that baby. :D

[Tom Robb]

There;s a boat shop on Lake Tahoe, (California side?)that does a lot of fancy motorboat restoration. They have racks of Hispano's, Libertys, and Scrips engines. They might sell for the right price, or be a source for finding one.
If I were building a Bootlegger, I'd look at hotrodded Ratmotors or other big inch recent iron - way better parts availability. The old stuff is too precious to break and often need expensive hand made replacement parts.
Of course the new ones obviously don't have near the wow factor. The sound of an open-exhaust Liberty would be tough to duplicate :cool:

[TimH]

Maybe twin BMW V12's or cheaper yet, Dodge V10's

[Paul Pless]

re: new model chevy motors as substitutes for old big displacement marine engines.

I have a friend that builds engines for nitro coupe drag cars. He recently built a 712 cu in bigblock chevy motor from parts (aluminum engine block, aluminum cylinder heads, and forged steel crankshaft) that he said were relatively inexpensive and easy to find. I think the complete engine, less fuel injection and magnetos cost about $20,000.00. That's for a motor that turns about 8,000 rpm and puts out almost 3000 horsepower for around 6 seconds. Incidentally, he claims that unless you lean it out, that motor will be good for 10 - 14 runs between rebuilds.

This leads me to wonder if you couldn't build one of these modern motors to lower compression, and relatively 'loose' tolerances, running a low rpm to replicate the sound of the old V8 Hispano motors. In a marine application you could use the iron block versions which cost about 1/3 what an aluminum version does. You wouldn't need a high tech valvetrain either.

re: plans source for Bootlegger.

You might want to try Van Damm Woodcraft. They have an inhouse designer, and they have built more than one coldmolded versions of Baby Bootlegger.

[Donn]

Here's some more, WartHog:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v54/donnwest/51403011.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v54/donnwest/51403012.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v54/donnwest/51403010.jpg

[Ross M]

Bravo, Donn. Birkigt knew his way around a drafting table, IMO. That particular shade of maroon looks familiar - is that the New England Boat and Motor shop?

In way of payback (hope it shows, Imagestation is about 50/50 these days):

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid139/pf3339e1977ab9b49dbd1b5472ef6704e/f6f8c6bd.jpg.orig.jpg

RR V12 (believe it is a converted Meteor) in Miss Severn