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Steve McMahon
04-14-2004, 06:51 PM
Plywood scarfs cut
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid111/p8d802c5fa43be44adaeaeae7b40d04d9/f910f748.jpg
plywood scarfs epoxied, poor mans scarf clamps
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid112/p9bd1e44aeaafb12a849ed9300fd639da/f902d90d.jpg
mid frame epoxied
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid112/pc1b413eb04b279c4ca0a81d29caf549c/f902d7fb.jpg
inner and outer stem epoxied
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid112/pb7c19369d79385e5430509d419b47b6f/f90238ba.jpg
tommorrow night clean up the laminated parts and start building the construction frame. :D :D
Skiff Junkie
04-14-2004, 09:00 PM
Very nice. What kind of scarfing jig are you using? I'll be starting a project soon which will require me to join some pieces of plywood. I've seen a couple scarfing jigs, including the one in WB#175, but haven't decided if any one is simpler to use or better than the others. I do, however have a good supply of those nifty clamps. ;)
Steve McMahon
04-14-2004, 09:32 PM
Skiff Junkie: I didn't use a jig, I used an electric hand plane for the majority of material removal. Finished up with a sharp block plane, and then a random orbit sander with 50 grit to fine tune the feather edge. I did both 3/4" and 3/8" plywood. The 3/8" was far easier to do. I will say that I am not impressed with the Brunzeel plywood - the outer veneer is way too thin and there are more voids in the inner plys(exposed when scarfing) than you would expect in plywood that costs about the same amount as gold.
Billy Bones
04-15-2004, 03:33 PM
Your stem mould puzzles me and someone else mentioned that it's because you've made a negative instead of a positive. Did you account for the thickness of the stem when doing it this way? Just checking.
Good progress--keep up the good work!
Steve McMahon
04-15-2004, 03:43 PM
Billy: I did account for the thickness of the stem when I made the mold. I just extended the lines on the drawings. I had thought about making it the other way around but bending on the inside seemed easier? Anyway, the bottom line is that now that its done is does match the drawings so I guess it worked. smile.gif Thanks for the comments. It's nice to have input from others, especially nice to have input from others who have built the same boat. Cheers
Steve McMahon
04-17-2004, 08:44 PM
A nudder update:
Laying out the planking.
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid112/p9a021b02fb838bc1e04edadb459e81e8/f8f9fc6f.jpg
Cutting out the planks and bottom.
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid112/p4557564c2478a3ba128d0aa6cc3f96b8/f8f9fc4f.jpg
Building jig set up, laminations cleaned up, ready to bevel the bottom for garboard.
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid112/pd09b739b3e1a613c05475ac1a0e77da8/f8f9f77a.jpg
Three supervisors!!! :eek:
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid112/pa88d67982d4d36849db3787cb13a4089/f8f9fc28.jpg
Looks great Steve! Great progress, and now the weather is starting to cooperate!
Steve McMahon
04-18-2004, 07:55 PM
Another day's work.
Cutting bottom bevels
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid112/pcdc0d6dc9e8b58d0c018135360fa9a84/f8f6e6de.jpg
dryfitting garboards
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid112/pd3dd77784860a7b2b47e081153ea6456/f8f6e77c.jpg
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid112/p79670346685b00c2e767b5a5113d4943/f8f6e740.jpg
My forearms are telling me that I've been pushing a plane for 8 hours. :D
brian.cunningham
04-19-2004, 06:32 PM
:cool: Looks like bricks work better than old school books for clamps smile.gif
Bob Ketterling
04-21-2004, 12:31 AM
Steve,
Thanks for the great pictures! You are making a much neater job of it than when I put my Pooduck together. I got mine in the water last summer. It sails and rows well, you will really enjoy your boat. You are makeing great progress, keep the pictures coming.
Steve McMahon
04-21-2004, 09:46 AM
Thanks for the comments. smile.gif
There sure is a lot of hand plane work in this boat! I am doing the maximum amount of fitting so I can get do as much epoxy stuff as I can at one time when the mercury rises a bit. Hopefully I will finish the middle plank fitting tonight.I still have to beg borrow or steal a rabbit plane to cut the rabbits where the planks approach the stem.
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid113/p50341a6a96595a1be66c966bb2ab9174/f8eecb57.jpg
Looking aft from below.
Steve McMahon
04-24-2004, 09:39 AM
Fitting sheerplanks
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid113/p8ce31df4c399dde7b39a39bd9553e2e5/f8e722ce.jpg
more fitting, fitting, fitting.....
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid113/pf3881a535d6f5793af03c1be498931c9/f8e722b6.jpg
I couldn't wait to find a rabbit plane for the forward end of the planks so I cut the rabbits with a chisel instead.
MARK@NOVASCOTIA
04-25-2004, 05:24 AM
Hey Steve, great to see another practicing addict so close by, I'm getting my Shellback (Pooduck's little sister) to the paint and varnish stage and hoping for a launch in May.
MARK@NOVASCOTIA
04-25-2004, 05:26 AM
Sorry I didn't see this sooner, I have that rabbet plane you need, let me know next time.
Mark
Steve McMahon
05-01-2004, 10:39 PM
Mark:
Thanks for checking in. I have been without a computor for a week so I have been out of touch. I will get some more pictures posted soon. I have been working on her most nights and most weekends. If your in the area feel free to stop in anytime. I'm at 224 Main, 3rd house past the Legion towards Waterville, same side of the road as the Legion.
reddog
05-02-2004, 06:20 AM
Steve;
Looking good!You certainly arn't wasting any time.The past couple of days would certainly have been decent for gluing.
Keep the pictures coming.
Earl
Steve McMahon
05-03-2004, 08:54 AM
The weekend's work: inner stem shaped and outer stem glued on, Keel cut and installed, planks cut off at stern, guard rail on bottom of sheer plank installed, plank edges faired, filler applied and inital sanding, rudder shaped, centerboard shaped, a few other odds and ends. smile.gif
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid115/pfb97646e22fd9258c3fcfa4480a7af87/f8cd0af2.jpg
Hans Lassen
05-04-2004, 12:20 PM
Great, Steve, and my!, you are one fast worker... tongue.gif ! Haven't been around much lately, so I was quite late to stumble over your thread. All the best, and may the water spirits look kindly on your project! The Pooduck community is growing - smile, Joel White!
Greetings
Hans
Steve McMahon
05-08-2004, 01:14 PM
Finally Flipped :D :D :D :D
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid115/padc56e153074b2c9e863c10a6ad54770/f8bece1d.jpg
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid115/p7f13c73578dbae7b72c53e2f1de5f247/f8becd87.jpg
Now the fun part begins
Martien
05-08-2004, 03:24 PM
My compliments Steve,
It's a fine piece of work you're doing. Nice pictures also.
Best regards,
Martien,
The Riviera project (http://www.veltens.nl)
MARK@NOVASCOTIA
05-08-2004, 03:26 PM
You must not have three small kids(I do) or you do have one very understanding wife, I might try and drop out Wed. or Thur. night if your gonna be around.
Mark.
Billy Bones
05-10-2004, 09:51 PM
A Pooduck is Born!
:D
Steve McMahon
05-11-2004, 10:18 PM
Centerboard trunk and breasthook glued up
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid116/p321865b708adf103bd4d9ce79f805a19/f8b3367a.jpg
tiller glued up and rudder ready to coat in epoxy
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid116/p5ae06ba72ee3ff14f4438809b8583f6c/f8b33608.jpg
Steve McMahon
05-14-2004, 12:39 AM
Some nights things just come together. smile.gif
Dry fitting the breasthook, outer and inner rails, and stern knees.
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid116/p1b07af8d3f993f02988ee5fd7132ec9e/f8ad6970.jpg
L.W. Baxter
05-14-2004, 12:58 AM
A month ago, I saw your post on plywood scarphs and figured you were preparing for a summer project. Looks like you were planning on a summer sail .
Neat job, salty little boat.
--Lee
DannyG
05-24-2004, 12:54 PM
That Pooduck is looking good! I finished the hull/rudder/centerboard for mine last fall, I'm now working to complete the spars and rig her up. I hope to have her sailing by the end of June. But I couldn't resist throwing her in the water last fall just to row around a bit:
http://www.znw.com/homepage/pooduck.htm
Rows very well, I'm sure she'll sail great too.
I built Pooduck outside under one of those cheap "portable garages" they sell at Harbor Freight. Plenty of room to build a 12-15 footer.
I've got about 200 hours into mine, do you have any idea of hours worked so far? I figure I'll have her finished in 250 hours.
Keep those pix coming, good luck!
Dan
Dave Gray
05-24-2004, 03:06 PM
I am impressed. Can I borrow your family? Mine keeps making me do silly things like help around the house and help with homework. So at 9:00PM I'm not too inclined to go out and do an hour or two of work.
However, I did manage to spend a few hours this weekend sanding, with 36 grit sandpaper, an epoxy coating on the inside that had cratered, pocked, dripped, you name it.... All because someone I know recommended I do this (even on okoume) to keep the plywood from checking. redface.gif
She's almost ready to paint. Just need to find 10 copper nails to attach the rudder and such. Then make the oars and spars.
I'm also in the market for a trailer. What is your poison?
DannyG
05-24-2004, 05:47 PM
I tried a UPS-shippable trailer from EZ-Loader, now $450 including S&H:
http://www.ezloader.com/upsable.asp
Takes a couple of hours to assemble, but seems to work well.
A cabinet scraper can be a useful tool for taking down those infernal epoxy drips most of the way...
Good luck!
Dan
Dave Gray
05-24-2004, 06:38 PM
Thanks, Dan. I've looked at the EZLoader and will probably buy one. Has it proved satisfactory?
The drips clean up rather well with a heat gun and an old crummy chisel. The cratering is a different story. I could have just poured another epoxy layer on but if I keep doing that, I might as well have built the thing out of plastic! Even sanded down, there is enough epoxy saturated through the first ply layer to provide the protection I wanted.
Steve McMahon
05-24-2004, 11:09 PM
Thanks for the comments. I have deviated from the plans somewhat for the interior. I made the seats from 3/4" plywood and fastened them in. I modified the centerboard trunk so the seats gave it more support. I added floatation compartments in the bow and stern. I changed the aft seat a bit. The boat will be white, with the seats, the centerboard trunk, the stem and knees, the stern, the rails, and the top strake varnished. A few more pictures for you.
I do have a very understanding family. I have about 200 hours in at this point. This boat is for one of my best friends and I'd like to have it to him by the end of June. Then I can start on mine as money permits. :D
All of the structural joints were done with epoxy and wood flour. All of the filleting and fairing was done with epoxy and microballoons. After much experimentation (and input from the forum)I have decided to seal the boat with a mixture of epoxy cut 25% with acetone prior to painting and varnishing. It polishes up nicely with a scotchbrite pad. I will scrub it with soapy water and wet sand before painting and varnishing.
More sanding and then paint and varnish.
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid118/p740affdb408b995eacfaa3f4d9a030f9/f88c6861.jpg
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid118/p2d0cb9f9806cd618faafdde8cd3204aa/f88c67fe.jpg
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid118/p2c5468c5975fc5e831d8d6dd910fb365/f88c679d.jpg
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid118/p926a5f332c4b0fa91b249227a3f1bcb4/f88c6735.jpg
Garrett Lowell
05-25-2004, 07:33 AM
Wow Steve, you are in some kind of hurry! She looks great.
Jon Etheredge
05-25-2004, 12:08 PM
I wonder if the centerboard cap setting on top of the thwarts might be uncomfortable for the rower? Maybe you can cut down the top of the trunk a bit so the cap will be flush with the thwarts?
Keep up the good work! The boat is looking good.
[ 05-25-2004, 12:15 PM: Message edited by: Jon Etheredge ]
DannyG
05-25-2004, 07:13 PM
Dave, I've only used the EZ-Loader trailer once, last fall, to launch and retrieve Pooduck. But, yes, so far the trailer has been a very good buy I think. The only downside is a couple of hours of assembly...but if you can build a Pooduck you can assemble the trailer no-problemo.
Steve, I think your boat's going be done before mine...in fact I'm sure of it!
L.W. Baxter
05-25-2004, 07:46 PM
Originally posted by DannyG:
Takes a couple of hours to assemble, but seems to work well.
I bought the same trailer for my dory. It took me the better part of 5 hours to get it all together, including drilling a couple holes that the EZload folks put in the wrong place. At least I'm fairly certain it was their fault.
Anyway, either you're really quick with a wrench or I'm a putz, or a couple hours means something different on Shelter Island. :D
Decent trailer, BTW, but I'm not terribly impressed by the way the two parts of the main beam are mated. I tightened my bolts down with an impact wrench and I still developed a sag at the union.
--Lee
Steve McMahon
05-26-2004, 01:39 PM
Jon:
Good thought on the centerboard trunk. I decided to leave it the way it is because of strength and because if I cut it down I would have to cut down the centerboard to fit. The cap will be rounded more than is shown in the picture. The good news is that the guy I'm building the boat for has a really skinny butt, It shouldn't be a problem for him. :D
I am on the road doing some seminars this week so I haven't been home to work on the boat. I'm starting to suffer from Pooduck withdrawl syndrome. :( ;)
Bob Ketterling
05-29-2004, 02:27 AM
Steve,
I think you made two good moves with the floatation for and aft and the side benchs aft. I followed the plans on mine but if I were to do it again I would probably do something like you did.
Steve McMahon
06-05-2004, 04:18 PM
I've just finished coating the inside with epoxy and am about to do the outside. I will post more pictures when she's painted. :D :D
Bob Ketterling
06-06-2004, 02:18 AM
Danny G-
What size wheels does the EZ Loader trailer have? The 8" or even the 12" wheels seem small if you need to pull the trailer at highway speeds.
DannyG
06-06-2004, 01:45 PM
It comes with 8" but can be fitted with 12" without modification. I'm not doing any highway driving so I'm sticking with the 8" (for now anyway). I've been up to about 40MPH, no problems.
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