Chinese junk, some help needed

[guy_from_Europe]

Hi all
I do look for a plan
to build a junk as they
did it in China about XVII.

have a look at this page
sorry all french
but some pic's and at the end
of the page a pic of, SAO MAI.
She is a replica build in Vietnam.

http://site.ifrance.com/ce2sing/SaoMai.htm

How has an idea where to look for

She was about 17 meters
and heavy displacemnt
something as 30 European tons

ronald
not french at all
an genuine European Mix

[Thad]

Here is this link http://www2.friend.ly.net/~dadadata/junks.html
Note the bibliography including the plans lists. Did that junk make that voyage?

[MarkC]

Schauen Sie mal - Tom Colvin http://www.thomasecolvin.com

He has Junks - and they sail too.

[skuthorp]

I had a book written by 2 RN leutennants who escaped from Japanese occupied China at the beginning of WW2 in a junk and sailed it to India.
I'll look to see if I still have it

[Lucky Luke]

Hi Ronald,

Pitiot's junk "SAO MAI" was not built to any design, but following the experience of our local boat builders.

If you want one, just come here. Don't expect anything cheap or easy.

A much larger one, "Song Saigon" was built a few years before by Max Rinaldo. She sank in the mediterranean, near Malta, on her way towards Europe, after having been used for "treasure hunting" in Cambodia and then Micronesia . May be the only junk ever sailing (and sinking!) in the med...?

Personaly, I do not fancy this rig that much, but I love these traditional boats anyway: what a pleasure when I sometimes go and have a drink on the evening on one of the restaurant boats on the Saigon river, watching all these various and wonderful wooden boats motoring (not saililng of course) up and down the river.....

There are still a few but miserable boats sailing n the Halong bay. Many skills are being lost, OK, but Viet Nam is now becoming a modern country.

You can find information in "Bois et bateaux du Viet Nam, by Francoise Cazenave, and in "Voiliers d'Indochine", by Mr. Pietri.

Vive notre Grande Europe à 25! smile.gif ;) tongue.gif :cool: smile.gif

[Jack Heinlen]

I think Lucky is right. I've never seen building plans for a traditional junk. There may be plans which record the construction details. Perhaps contact the Chinese embassy where you live, or go to a good library and confer with a reference librarian.

A book, not really on topic but considered a main source for information on the modern junk rig, is Practical Junk Rig, Hasler and Mcloud.

Nice to see you here, and good luck.

Jack

[Boomkin Joe]

Here are model plans tongue.gif

On E-Bay (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3190243029&category=4248#ebayphotohosting)

These people might be helpful for a full-size project

Museum Restoration (http://www.nps.gov/safr/junk.html)

[ 05-01-2004, 05:55 PM: Message edited by: Beachcomber ]

[seb]

Doing a search on Google for "Voiliers d'Indochine" I've stumbled over this page: www.vietnamboats.org (http://www.vietnamboats.org)

It seems that some guys in PortTownsend, WA are into documenting these fine craft. Maybe you could get in touch with them, exchange information, get involved. Might turn out to be useful.

[ 05-02-2004, 06:16 AM: Message edited by: seb ]

[N. Scheuer]

Have you read Junks & Sampans Of The Yamgtze by G. R. C. Worcester? It is considered the most complete book published about Chinese Junks.

The Hassler book mentioned above concerns only the rigging, but it, too, is exceptional.

Moby Nick

[John E Hardiman]

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