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[gert]

I'm a kid in a candy store; I just can't decide what boat to build. I know what I need (I think); here are by desires in priority order:
gorgeous
trailerable
20 to 25'
safe (be able to cross Georgia Straight)
reasonably fast
dry
easy(?) to build
plywood (lapstrake)
or strip
economical
wife must find it comfortable
therefor it should have a head
single handed
gaf rigged
I have built and sail rugularily Joel Whites Shearwater, but she's too small and slow for going anywhere.

[Dave Gray]

How about the plywood version of the Sea Bird? It's not lapstrake, but will accomodate two, is 25', and I think it's trailerable. Plans are from WB.

[Keith Wilson]

Perhaps Phil Bolger's Lapstrake Chebacco boat?

http://www.duckworksmagazine.com/articles/port/pt17.jpg

It meets just about all your criteria I can define accurately. It's reasonably fast for a 20' gaff-rigged monohull sailboat, but that certainly doesn't mean fast in absolute terms. I don't know about gorgeous - it's not in the class of a Rozinante, but not ugly by any means. I also can't speak for your wife. You could put in a portapotty easily, but it's more of a daysailer than a cruising boat. The cockpit is vey comfortable; the cabin is small. You'll make trailering and launching a lot more complicated if the boat gets much bigger than this, though. Our very own John Welsford also has some nice designs that you might want to look into.

[ 09-18-2003, 04:27 PM: Message edited by: Keith Wilson ]

[Venchka]

PENGUIN 1 (http://www.woodenboat.net.nz/Boats/BoatPenguin/Penguinbuild.html)
PENQUIN 2 (http://www.woodenboat.net.nz/Boats/BoatPenguin/tropicalpenguinfolder/PenguinAust.html)

Penguin has a head!

TRAILER SAILER 24 (http://www.cmdboats.com/trailersailer24.htm)

NORWALK ISLAND SHARPIE 23 (http://www.norwalkislandssharpie.org/)

Most every feature you desire in every one of these boats.

[ishmael]

I'm thinking about Bolger's 'Black Skimmer'. A twenty five foot sharpie. Do a search in this forum and it will turn up a lively discussion or two.

As to comfort...well.

[imported_Steven Bauer]

http://www.duckflatwoodenboats.com/pictures/oughtred/eunmara1.jpg

Eun Mara specs (http://www.duckflatwoodenboats.com/dfwbphp/boatPAGE.php?type=spec&ID=1033)

[Tom Irvine]

Gert, I feel your pain. I'm in the same position with pretty much the same fistfull of specs. So far, I think I like John Welsford's Penguin the best. It seems very comfortable and is supposed to be designed with the homebuilder in mind.

Enjoy sorting through designs - they are all possibilities.

Tom

[Norske3]

plywood Seabird...Seabird...SEABIRD. smile.gif

[Tom Irvine]

A Penguin IS a sea bird. ;)

[TimH]

This is what I think of when I think of seabird Yawl:

http://www.sonic.net/~johnh/Seabird/seabird-lines240.jpg

Here is one for sale at a really cheap price. I wonder what kind of shape she is really in...hmm

SeaBird Yawl (http://www.sonic.net/~johnh/)

http://www.geocities.com/mastermariners/images/seabird.jpg

[ 09-20-2003, 05:02 AM: Message edited by: TimH ]

[Meerkat]

Originally posted by Keith Wilson:
Perhaps Phil Bolger's Lapstrake Chebacco boat?

http://www.duckworksmagazine.com/articles/port/pt17.jpg

It meets just about all your criteria I can define accurately. It's reasonably fast for a 20' gaff-rigged monohull sailboat, but that certainly doesn't mean fast in absolute terms. I don't know about gorgeous - it's not in the class of a Rozinante, but not ugly by any means. I also can't speak for your wife. You could put in a portapotty easily, but it's more of a daysailer than a cruising boat. The cockpit is vey comfortable; the cabin is small. You'll make trailering and launching a lot more complicated if the boat gets much bigger than this, though. Our very own John Welsford also has some nice designs that you might want to look into.A fellow by the name of Jamie Orr has built a Chebacco he trailer sails out of Victoria, BC. He's come across the straights of San Juan de Fucca to Port Townsend, WA a couple of times that I know of. There are a couple of other threads mentioning the Chebacco here on the forum too.