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JimJ
02-12-2001, 06:19 PM
Does anyone know of a web site or books that have ideas for cabin layouts for a 18 foot plywood boat?

paladin
02-12-2001, 06:32 PM
No, but if it is to have a galley of sorts, I would put it all the way aft,and then a U shaped sit down forward with a drop down table and a port-a-potty under, there ain't no room for anything else. There's not much you can put in there unless it's a catboat.

JimJ
02-12-2001, 06:46 PM
I forget to mention that the boat has a centreboard running fron the bridge deck to the mast support effectively cutting the cabin in two.

paladin
02-12-2001, 09:10 PM
You know, this is the way Ted Brewer ran the YDI (Yacht Design Institute) way back when. He would design a boat and then send the basics out to students to try different ways of accomplishing a task....and just when you thought you would get it right there would be this....by the way, there's.......
Get a bucket to keep on deck, a sea swing stove, some water bottles, and a couple of sleeping bags....what kinda boat izzit.????

JimJ
02-13-2001, 01:12 AM
Promise that all.

When I bought the boat, a Hartley TS18, it had a metho stove aft cabin on the port side hanging from the cabin top, a Vee Berth, seats on port and s'board adjacent to the centreboard case and extending under the cockpit seats for bunks.

Between the seat on the s'board side and the Vee berth is a small locker for odds and ends.

A battery is under the port seat and ss water tank under the vee berth.

I would like to set the cabin up for day and overnight cruising with two on board. We only need two bunks.

I need a anchor locker/well up foward. Could use the fwd section of the vee berth fo that.

We have a lot of storage under the aft sections of the cockpit seats for fuel, grab bag, paddles, buckets. I have already fitted an aft anchor storage.

That is about as far as my dreaming has progressed.

Any ideas would be appreciated.

Smacksman
02-13-2001, 05:38 PM
My old 1870 Emma has a big centerboard trunk and she had a wee cabin that the trunk cut in two - frankly useless.
So when re-building the deck I made her back into an open boat/half decker and she looks much better for it. A boom tent provides a lot of volume under it for living in. Under way, the custom tender stows upside down over the coaming and provides a bit of cover under way. Two hammocks are slung from the fore end of the cockpit and under the fore deck - very comfortable, light and stows personal gear and sleeping bags up in the dry. Heads are a galvanised bucket with a modern plastic loo seat notched to locate on top. Galley is a galvanised bucket with a camping gas burner+cylinder located inside - the saucepan wedges inside the bucket and the lot is hung up by the bucket handle under way so that it is gimbled and keeps the wind out. Three drawers built under the side decks for tools/spares; food/crocks/kfs and the last for navigation/flares/binos. Drinking water in plastic bottles distributed around as ballast. A 6hp seagull powers boat and tender but only in smooth water and the occasional marina. [it's a sailing boat]
Anchor just stays shipped in bow roller with chain through a hawse pipe to a plastic bucket in the forepeak. Oh yes, canvas from broken deckchairs slung between thwarts make comfortable occasional chairs and roll up to nothing for stowing.
Sorry about this - get carried away - will stop now i promise ...

Charlie J
02-13-2001, 06:47 PM
Jim- go to the Trailer sailor board and post your question- there are a few Oz sailors that post there and at least one sails a Hartley TS18.

http://www.trailersailor.com/forums/trailersailor/index.cgi
maybe he or they can give you some ideas- good luck

Charlie J
02-14-2001, 09:00 AM
Originally posted by c e jones:
Jim- go to the Trailer sailor board and post your question- there are a few Oz sailors that post there and at least one sails a Hartley TS18.

http://www.trailersailor.com/forums/trailersailor/index.cgi
maybe he or they can give you some ideas- good luck
OOPS- just realized you're the guy that has the TS18- guess my posting won't help much - Sorry

RussG
02-21-2001, 04:16 PM
Check layouts for Rozinante's. Though they are 28', they have are narrow (6'4" beam) and have a long cockpit so that the cuddy cabin is that of a shorter hull.

The layout I like has a sink to port and a small stove to starboard. Under each is a smallish but effective locker will 2 or three shelves.

Forward of each is a settee/berth. They are fine for sleeping. The forward panel of the sink and stove areas have small fold out table tops for one person each. They are neat as they take up no real space but are very useful.

Just aft of the mast, between the feet of each settee/berth, is a seat with a head under.

Forward of all this a sizeable area for stowing gear. Under this area is a stainless steel water tank that is hooked up to the sink.

For a small boat this really works very well.

David Shipway
08-01-2005, 01:31 PM
If it's of any use to you, I've just bought a 23x10ft x6200lbs disp. catboat with quite an unusual cabin layout intended for. The companionway is to starboard of the case, and the whole aft port side of the cabin beside it is a roomy double berth, while there's a single/settee along starboard side, facing a narrow flip-up table on the stbd case. There's a small Lunenberg woodstove ahead of that, then the galley is up forward, a horseshoe layout with 2-burner stove to port, sink to stbd. There's a skylight hatch over the galley, so it all seems to work quite well for two people. No head below, just a deck bucket and boom tent, which is quite sufficient on a boat this small.

Venchka
08-01-2005, 02:23 PM
Have you got the plans? They might be a good place to start.

http://www.hartley-boats.com/images/18d.jpg

http://www.hartley-boats.com/images/18b.jpg

TS18 Plans (http://www.hartley-boats.com/18.html)

Trailer Sailer (http://www.trailer-sailer.com/)

I have always felt that the Hartley TS18 had about the best cabin arrangement possible in 18'.

You can also GOOGLE around the internet for ideas from other designers with boats in the same size range. Oughtred, Redmond, Welsford, B & B Yacht Designs, Stambaugh, Atkin, the list goes on and on. You can find a bewildering array of ideas out there in cyber water.

Good luck!

Wayne
In the Swamp. :D

AngWood
08-01-2005, 03:39 PM
It sounds like the arrangement on the 23-footer provides a roomier double berth than your standard V-berth in the bow.

[ 08-01-2005, 03:39 PM: Message edited by: AngWood ]

Venchka
08-01-2005, 03:58 PM
With 10' beam it ought to. :cool:

Wayne
In the Swamp. :D