The Scow, chapter 3

[Bear's Oil]

Fooling around with Chapelle's 24' garvey gunkholer....His design has a "pop top". I'm looking for a fixxed trunk roof. Can anyone clarify: raised deck, raised flush deck, flush deck?? How do any of these configurations differ from a simple trunk roof? I'm thinking of something similar to the modified "egret" Parker mentions in his Sharpie book. Parker calls this a raised flush deck, I believe. Thanx...

[TonyH]

Hi Larry

It's good to hear your still working on this project. re your questions, as I understand it (in other words, these answers aren't necessarily right http://media5.hypernet.com/~dick/ubb/smile.gif) the terms you mention are defined as follows:

Raised deck - in this layout the level of the roof of what would normally be the cabin trunk is extended all the way to the sides, and usually all the way to the bow (but sometimes a little recessed well deck is left near the bow). However, this "raised deck" only extends aft as far as the aft end of what would normally be the cabin trunk ie. the bulkhead where the companionway from the cockpit into the cabin is usually located. So there is a break in the deck sheer at that point and the side decks around the cockpit are lower.

"Flush Deck" is where there is no raised cabin trunk at all and the deck sheer is unbroken from bow to stern. This sort of layout is usually found on racers where an open, uncluttered deck is more important than cabin headroom.

"Raised flush deck" is where the flush deck layout is used but the height of the entire deck, from bow to stern, is raised to the level of the roof of a cabin trunk on a "normal" boat - typically the deck will be about a foot above the "normal" level. Thus, the boat has a flush deck layout and quite a lot of freeboard. Advantages are clear deck and lots of internal volume, disadvantage is extra windage and often a rather cumbersome appearance due to the high freeboard. You need a good boarding ladder if you're swimming, too.

This is the way I would use these terms - it will be interesting to see any other interpretations http://media5.hypernet.com/~dick/ubb/wink.gif

Cheers

Tony

[Bear's Oil]

Thanks Tony. Very helpful. I sketched in the raised deck concept and it doesn't look too bad. This design doesn't have much freeboard to begin with. It is, essentially, a sharpy with its nose chopped off....sort of a "dull" sharpie. Maybe the extra windage will be cancelled out by the increase in bouyancy??? Structurally, I'm thinking of widening the top of the companionway bulkhead and adding another, similar bulkhead forward. ....thinking out loud now!!

Thanks again!!

[TonyH]

Larry
You're welcome. If you'd like an amateur design critique how about scanning in your design sketches and posting them? I'd be interested to have a look at them.

Regards

Tony

[Bear's Oil]

In the process of researching the scow, I came upon the Stevenson "weekender" design. That is bottom panels fastened to a shallow keel. I am intrigued by this technique but wonder about how this configuration performs without leeboards or a center board. Is it a practical configuration.???
I did a search of the forum and found opinion divided. Any other comment???

[This message has been edited by Larry W. LaBounty (edited 03-10-2001).]

[Tom Beecroft]

A friend of mine bought an old Weekender and rebuilt it. Now this friend spent about 10 years working as a professional boat builder (mostly glass, though) and spent most of his life sailing, including a NZ to Japan race.

He had the Weekender out on a wide river and it capsized on him and sank. I'm not quite sure how much alcohol was involved in this event, and he did recover it fairly quickly and has since sailed it often without incident, but it makes me wonder about the relatively small and unweighted keel. I know any boat can capsize in certain conditions, but we're talking a wide river here.

For what it's worth, I'd take a weighted keel or positive flotation.

[Fritz Koschmann]

Quite a while ago some interest was expressed in a scow I owned. I have recently put together a website about some boats I own or have owned including the Chapelle scow sloop. The main purpose of the site is to show the Bolger sailing catamaran I am building.

http://www.thegreatsea.homestead.com

fritz koschmann

[Bear's Oil]

Fritz...That was ME! Great to see the pictures. I am vacilating between the 22 footer and Chapelle's "Tuckerton" garvey. I have the Smithsonian plans for both. Any other info pertaining to your little boat would be appreciated. I will, of course, adapt to plywood. I enjoyed your web page.... looks like a neat place. Good luck on your new project.