Whilly Boat Opinions

[Vern D]

So, I'm getting ready to enlarge my small shop and I need to find something to clutter it up with.
The WHILLY BOAT is at the top of the list at this point. I will be sailing it on the lake near my place, which has a nice little breeze of 15-30kts steady nearly every summer day. Are there any personal experiences with WHILLY BOAT in a stiff breeze? Any personal experiences of any kind with WHILLY BOAT to whet my whistle? Hell, I'd even love to hear Opinions!
I sure do like the lines that Iain Oughtred puts down.
Of course, the next cluttler for the "real" shop would be GREY SEAL or GREAT SEAL , if that one ever gets drawn.
Thanks,
Vern and Jake (the wonder dog) :D

[ 04-15-2002, 02:45 AM: Message edited by: Vern D ]

[Wild Dingo]

Now Jake me ol wonder dawg...

Your pets thoughts of a whilly boat is an excellent one you just tell him that anything old mr Oughtred draws has gotta be brilliant!...

As for Grey Seal... mmmmm yep good choice... mighty fine choice in fact... plenty of room for us doggie types to just laze around while they play with all them ropes and things eh?...

Great Seal?... well considering Ive hear much ado about said design but am yet to see anything more than hearsay we will just have to take that as it comes wont we?...

Woof?... well sure Jake mate its definantly my opinionated opionion that your pet should build the whilly boat...

Wooffy woofwoof?... oh yes he should know by now that any new project needs new tools... my these pets are rather tedious arent they? should I? shouldnt I? can I? cant I? and on and on!... Why my own silly drongo of a pet has been all ablather about this design and that design and then this design and then oh no gotta do that one!... I do think the poor ol fella has finally chosen one and a good choice too by the way... plenty of ropes and things for him to muck about with and lots and lots of room for a fella like me to hoot around on!... but unlike your good pet mine tends to like things BIG!...

WOOF woooooof?... oh no I dont mind kinda like them wide open spaces meself

Well its beeng great woofin wif ya mate! keep ya pecker warm and get that pet of yours doin what he knows he must!

Geeeeerrrooof ya flamin great dingo!! Look sorry about that Vern mate the flamin damned animal thinks he can do anything I can! cant take him anywhere!... okay the whilly boat? just a personal opinion mind you get into it son! old Iain does design a great looking boat doesnt he?!

Walk us through whatever you decide mate! Keep us posted... and I'll keep the flamin dingo offa this thing! :eek:

Take it easy
Shane

[Hugh Paterson]

Lo Vern, there are a few round here, sweet lines, dont know what they are like in a "gust" but they do have a narrow beam? However they go like the blazes and track very well in lumpy seas. One of my fellow students at the James Watt boatbuilding course is building one at the moment, I will try to get him to pass you details as he works on it if you want?

Shuggie.

[casem]

I'm putting the finishing touches on one right now so maybe I'll be able to tell you more in a week or so, but 30 knots?! I'm guessing that's a bit much, at least for me.

As for the narrow beam, I thought the same thing when I was first looking at the design but then I realized maybe a 4'7" beam isn't too bad for a 14'6" double ender; I was comparing it to boats with transoms. Any other opinions?

[Don Olney]

Vern,

If the lake winds are that strong and steady, why not consider the Ness Boat? Its a bit longer, wider, and heavier than the Whilly Boat, though not so much as to make it impractical if size is a consideration. If you have garage/workshop space for a 14'6" boat, you probably have the room for a 16'6" boat.

The LOA of the Ness Boat is 16'6". Beam is 5'2". Weight is 220lbs. Sail area is 102sq ft.

The Ness Boat has almost the same beam as the larger Ness Yawl which has a beam of 5'3". With this beam, the Ness Yawl is rowed comfortably single-handed. All the boats is this series, the Whilly Boat, the Ness Boat, the Ness Yawl, and the Caledonia Yawl were designed more or less for "dingy cruising".

The Ness Boat has options for a balanced lug rig or gunter sloop, the former being the simplest.

-Don

[Vern D]

I looked at the NESS BOAT today on the Duck Flat site. I like the suggestion of more beam and weight. The shop will handle the extra length, sort of, but what fun is it unless you can cuss the cramped quarters, right? I've always gravitated twords the sloop rig, because I know it.
Thanks,
Vern andJake (the wonder dog)

[Don Maurer]

Because of the swept bow and stern on these boats, the narrow beam isn't so narrow at the waterline. As I recall from the lines drawings, the length to beam at the waterline was about 3:1 for the Whilly, Ness Boat and Caledonia Yawl. The Ness Yawls and J2 are a bit narrower.

[ 04-17-2002, 12:15 AM: Message edited by: Don Maurer ]

[casem]

Interesting point Don. I just measured my Whilly (boat, that is), and it's about 3.4 at the DWL.

[Alwyn]

I've been sailing my boomless standing lug rigged whillyboat for about 8 years. We, daughter and self, have experienced 30 knots but needed a double reef. Only found out the wind speed next day when talking to a keeler skipper who had been sailing within a couple of hundred metres at the same time. It wasn't too bad; a bit of spray and a few strokes on the bilge pump (fairly important addition if you sail in open or semi-open waters) seemed to cope OK. Quite exillarating really.

[Vern D]

> thanks so much for the feedback. My shop floor is almost down and I'll start framing the walls next week or so.
> my friends around here, one couple are world cruisers, say they would opt for the NESS BOAT. Probably because of more room,.... so they can go along...Ya Think??...lol
:D
Vern and Jake (the wonder dog)

[ 04-28-2002, 12:36 AM: Message edited by: Vern D ]

[Ben Fuller]

At my behest, Ian did a 95% Ness Yawl. Wanted something that would fit into a garage on a trailer a little easier, also a little easier to handle single handed under oar, but big enough for two to pull. Ended up commissioning Tony Dias to do the Harrier as I needed a flat bottom boat one that would sit upright on the mud which I have. I still have the 95% plans and a license to build one and may do so one of these days.