View Full Version : materials cost for Joel White peapod
oarlock
08-18-2005, 03:16 PM
I'm a total novice who's foolish enough to think about tackling a Joel White 14' Maine Coast sailing peapod. But I'm completely clueless about what the materials cost would be--can anybody give me a rough ballpark? Under $2K? I guess that depends on the quality of wood you use. If I do this I'll want the boat to last my lifetime, if not my son's as well, so would use high-grade cedar and/or white pine.
Also, roughly how many hours of time does a project like this take? I know it's a lot, but would be curious if anybody's actually kept track.
Thanks, and please offer any tips, advice, or warnings.
Steve Lansdowne
08-18-2005, 10:14 PM
I can't give you a price, but I do know that adding a sailing rig (sails, spars, rudder, centerboard/daggerboard, lines, etc.) to any boat ups the price a lot. I'd guess that if you build the sailing version you'll add perhaps 30-40% more to the cost of the boat than if you built the rowing version.
Cuyahoga Chuck
08-19-2005, 10:59 AM
Depending on how involved the sailing rig is there is,at least, as much money sticking up in the air as is touching the water.
To get to prospective cost requires a rough list of supplies.
Taking anyone's time frame is ,to me, a gamble. Putting a hobby project on a schedual will certainly take the fun out of it and anyone who is enough of a beancounter to document hours worked is driven by a philosophy that I don't understand or care to practice.
If you are totally inexperienced it will take a long time.
My last project was a stitch and glue sailing pram 8' long. Built at rock bottom prices. Total was @ $600. Sailboat costs go up steeply with increases in length so $2000 might be a little low. If you are experienced it might be possible.
Charlie
oarlock
08-19-2005, 11:26 AM
Thanks for the replies. I realize there's a lot of variables at work here, I was just hoping to get a ballpark from somebody who has tackled this or a similar boat design (both in terms of cost and time). I was guessing around $2K and 100-200 hours, but that was just a shot in the dark.
I talked with Jim Steele about having one built last summer, he would charge $6K (and he doesn't do sailing ones anymore, as he thinks the boats don't stand up to it. . .but that's a topic for a whole other thread).
(BTW, Cuyahoga, I graduated from Lakewood High School).
[ 08-19-2005, 11:28 AM: Message edited by: oarlock ]
Venchka
08-19-2005, 11:36 AM
Sail costs are all over the map. Anywhere from $4 to $8/sq. ft. the last time I checked. You do have the benefit of being in a corner of wooden boat building Nirvana. You also can walk around the corner and talk to Grant Gambell, or wander inland to Appleton and talk to Brad Hunter of Gambell & Hunter Sailmakers. Finer people and finer sails would be hard to find.
Lumber shouldn't be hard to find. There's a bunch of it going into boats every day. If you are really interested in having the boat built professionally, Bill Buchholz at Apache Boatworks might be worth chatting to.
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The Apprenticeshop in Rockland is another choice. They like building boats the right way. ;)
Don't forget Hamilton Marine in Searsport.
I have no interest in the above businesses. I have met and/or done business with all of them.
Wayne
In the Swamp. :D
[ 08-19-2005, 11:40 AM: Message edited by: Venchka ]
I did a Joel White Shearwater 4 years ago for about 2400 Ca which includes sail at 500 and 5 sheets of 3/8 Acume ply (boat only needs four but I screwed one up), and that was with all bronze fastening. But does not include running around looking for stuff gas costs, which today would probably be more than the boat.
Cuyahoga Chuck
08-19-2005, 10:07 PM
St. Edward.
Charlie
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