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norske
05-21-2003, 08:29 PM
C.Rayhmond Hunt design...all plywood hull..upper/lower chines of Sitka spruce.
l.o.a...44'-7 5/8"
l.w.l...32'-6"
beam....6'-7"
draft...6'-0"
S.A.....519 sq. ft.
Keel..fab. galvanized steel plate/lead casting..5200#
Approx price in 1946.....$6000. :D
Launched Dec 1945.
Sleeps four adults.
Aux. engine...inboard /air cooled
Deck house...double planked mahogany
Note: this type of hull had no structural keel; rather,had a pair of longitudinal trusses extending from the afterend of the cockpit to the mast and evenly distributed the stresses set up by the weight of the keel and the pull of the shrouds.
So, I've seen both the 110 and 210 racers but this one is something else!...I can see me racing up to the Maine Coast from Boston in one of these in a few hours.. Ha!... then tying up for a quiet meal in a cove as the sun sets. Hunt said the lightest breeze would move her...the aux engine only being used in a flat calm....HAS ANYONE OUT THERE EVER SEEN ONE?
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JimConlin
05-21-2003, 08:44 PM
I may be garbling memories, but I remember such a boat in Quissett, MA maybe 5-10 years sgo. I think it belonged to someone at the boatyard. Might have been named Huntress. Needed a lot of work. Was slab-sided like the 110's and 210's, but was, oddly, strip planked.
In my (distant) youth, I sailed 110's. They were not light air boats. They were skinny, so they'd go fast in a blow if you had the rail meat to keep 'em upright.
ishmael
05-21-2003, 08:51 PM
There was a dying and not very active fleet of 110's down the lake where I summered as a kid. Never got to sail one, but I remember marveling, callowly, at their looong hull form.
Pics? If what I'm imagining is correct, a blown up 110, it sounds funky, fun and WET! :D
norske
05-21-2003, 09:05 PM
Looks like a blown-up 210...I have a small line drawing ..from an old book.
rbgarr
05-21-2003, 11:10 PM
See WB issue #7, pp. 69-72 for pictures of the original 1946 boat and updated lines/interior/larger sailplan for a 1975 NZ homebuilder. There were also Hunt 410 and 225 designs.
John B
05-21-2003, 11:20 PM
Does it say anything more about the NZ boat rbg?
What a pencil! 6'7" beam.!
rbgarr
05-21-2003, 11:38 PM
The article says the updated design was done for an Aukland (sic) resident, C. J. Frankham, esq.(does that mean lawyer in NZeze, like it does in some parts of the US?) It also notes that the boat was being built under the 'direct supervision of the owner', whatever that means. No other details about what yard, or construction details. Let us know if you find her, and send pictures.
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John B
05-22-2003, 12:16 AM
My understanding of 'esq' was just that it meant landowner.
No mention of a boat name I spose? No.
I've certainly never seen anything like it on the water( not that narrow for its length anyway) plenty of Spencers of course.( Infidel/ Ragtime types) I'll be on the watch out though.
John Bertenshaw ESQ.
alright alright so it's me AND the bank who owns the land. ;)
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JimConlin
05-22-2003, 12:28 AM
The boat in Quisset had vertical sides, like a 110.
John B
05-22-2003, 12:50 AM
Okey dokey. I've had to edit my previous post because I just rang Mr Frankham and what a nice gentleman he is too. As it happens,I've met his son many years ago and we share quite a hands on interest in Aucklands old boats I find.
He tells me the design was never built here. The draftsman who designed the revised coachroof and accommodation is one (Mr) Yves-Marie Tanton and he lives in Newport.A designer in his own right now , Mr Frankham says.
Howzat?
norske
05-22-2003, 06:18 AM
Hello Mr. John Bertenshaw, esq.,
So, did Mr.Frankham say anything about its sailing abilities...it was built, somewhere else right?
And, Mr. Tanton lives in Newport...you mean the one in Australia or Rhode Island, USA.?
I would love to get a set of plans...I wonder how much the "plywood box" hull...45 feet x 6 feet 7 inch would cost for a DIY.
Thanks, Jim Conlon,rbgarr,Ishmael for your inputs. smile.gif
Mr. Bertenshaw,esq.... as a land owner do you raise sheep?
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Thaddeus J. Van Gilder
05-22-2003, 06:53 AM
There is a whole fleet of 110's at the Ocean City Yacht club, and some one told me that there is a few 210's racing.
I had heard that there was a series of these boats built going upwards in length, but I had know I dea that they got that big!!!!!
-Thad
Mr C.J Frankham never got to build the boat. Barn;plans and material went up in smoke. I have Plans for the "610" for wood and "contour panel". This boat is based on the Hunt design (same LOA)but with more "modern" features in rig, interior and construction details.Study drawings are available.E-mail me.
norske
05-22-2003, 07:17 AM
HELLO Mr. YMT!...didn't know you were right here.
A 610! What would the l.o.a. be?...will e-mail you....OOPS!...you did say...same as 510.
How long has your 610 been around?...is there one built in wood I could see in New England?
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rbgarr
05-22-2003, 08:24 AM
Another narrow cruising speedster is ARION, a ketch designed for fiberglas construction by Sidney Herreshoff and built by the Anchorage in Rhode Island in 1951. She was recently restored by Damian McLaughlin http://www.dmcboats.com/ . Click on his link there, 'Arion Sails!' The hull looks like an enlarged double-ended Yankee class with separate keel and spade rudder. The plans show an interesting tiller to rudder linkage that I wonder about.
My wife and I have looked at both of these designs, and a change she would want (in place of the small aft deckhouse on Arion) is a shallow, cushioned cockpit on the after deck where she could sunbathe in wind-protected comfort while gazing at the (rapidly!) passing scenery. The after deck is her favorite spot to sit on on our Shields, but she has to grab on 'a bit too much for comfort' when heeling, and she's not getting any younger, you know? Not too much to dream for, is it?
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John B
05-25-2003, 03:59 PM
looks like a fun sort of boat. We're 41 ft and 8'6" beam but our interior volume is low because of the overhangs and low freeboard.Waione was a great boat for 2 or 3 people.Tight for 5.
That boat would have a lot more room over us.
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