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Rod Tait
04-11-2005, 11:31 AM
Anyone built the Whitehall rowing dingy distributed through Glen-L. Info on approx. cost of materials, time to build, instruction manual thoughts, etc. appreciated.

Dean4140
04-11-2005, 05:05 PM
I'm researching the same things on my first boat. I don't know about the Glen-L, but Gartsideboats.com has a 15' plan #147 strip plank row/sail that is spec'd at 450 hrs. building time. I would add 100-150 hrs for a total estimated building time of 550-600hrs. The Whitehall is longer at 17' and may have a more difficult stern to plank. I'm also adding additional time on my own estimate, because of the beginning learning curve.

If you don't get any responses on the materials cost, I would take the Bill of Materials list provided by Glen-L and get a cost estimate from your supplier of marine wood. That's what I'm going to have to do. Dean

Rod Tait
04-11-2005, 06:24 PM
The costing of materials is pretty straight forward since I mill most of my own. I am mostly interested in finding out how the hull is planked and whether it is a wood/fiberglass monocoque structure. It is unclear from the written info on the site and I have yet to hear back from anyone at Glen-L.

The customer likes the length since he wishes two rowing stations.

Tonyr
04-11-2005, 07:21 PM
Strip built, isn't it? With fibreglass/epoxy encapsulation. A perfectly sound approach, which has worked well for me, for a boat of about this size and style.

Tony.

Rod Tait
04-11-2005, 09:08 PM
Strip built, yes. The info indicates 1/2 in. thick bead and cove planking, edge nailed, but it is not clear whether it is glassed. It certainly appears so from the pictures and it also states that the glue used is epoxy but no discussion about glass or sheathing.

Rod Tait
Orca Canoes and Kayaks Ltd.

WWheeler
04-13-2005, 12:07 PM
Bear Mountain has plans for these. Saw one at the Cottage show in TO 2 weeks ago, and spoke with the designer (Steve Killing), whose also drawn the Atlantic Challenge boats. He said that he re-modelled that tricky wineglass transom just for strip planking (reduced the amount of tuck). Looks fairly decent, if you're going to do strip planking.

http://www.bearmountainboats.com/images/Whitehall_01.jpg

See Bear Mountain (http://www.bearmountainboats.com/products.htm)

[ 04-13-2005, 12:08 PM: Message edited by: WWheeler ]

Rod Tait
04-13-2005, 09:40 PM
Thank you for the reply. We did look at the wherry by Steve Killings, and personally I liked that one but the customer wanted something a little bigger and two seats. He chose the Whitehall from all the plans that I had him look through. I'm sure the design by Steve would be great to build, since I have built many of his designs already and find them easy to build, are detailed in the manual and rarely do I run into unknowns.

Still waiting to hear from Glen-L (second request sent)

Steve Miller
04-14-2005, 09:04 AM
Two requests by email to Glen-L with no response sounds wrong to me. I have purchased plans and supplies from them and always gotten very fast response. Most stuff was shipped the next day with emails letting me know they got the order and another one when it shipped. I would call them on the phone and ask for Barry Witt, ask your question and explain about the emails. Not all companies are as email oriented as others.

Rod Tait
04-14-2005, 10:21 AM
I guess that orders and paying customers take precedence over general inquiries. I think it is pretty sad that they actually have to state on their web site that if you don't get a reply in a "reasonable" amount of time, re-submit your request and that they actually apologize in advance for the lack of commitment to respond. So no reponse is no surprise to me.