Herreshoff's Gloriana

[Snoo973]

hi,
waiting to finally decide how, when, where and which :( boat to build i decided to build a model of Gloriana but beside a picture and a "probably her" side view i dont have much.
Anyone knows where i can find the 3 views of this boat? Somewhere on the net maybe?
T.I.A.

[mmd]

If you are gifted with access to a WB library, there are articles on her in issues 4, 41, 49, & 100. You may also be able to get plans from the Hassenreffer-Herreshoff Library, but you have to promise to not build a real copy.

[Thad]

The Hart Nautical Collection at MIT might have the plans and offsets. Herreshoff did not do lines plans of the sort model makers like to use. Kurt Hesselbalch is the curator, kurt@mit.edu. The Smithsonian has a lines drawing for Gloriana, plan # Y-1.

[Snoo973]

Thanks guys, the "kind" of plans its not a problem, having a normal 3 views its ok, i can extrapolate the frames from water lines only lofting with a CAD if there is the need, something like the "study plans" we find online about other boats can get me started with no problems and the pictures im finding around can help me with the rest. I just didnt want to bother ordering plans around etc.
As for building a real one... for how much i would like it, sadly, its really improbable i could.
WB library eh? uhmm i guess i have nothing like that here, i just find strange that a boat like that has so little online.

[Dave Fleming]

We have had a number of threads on Capt Nat's way of designing a craft.

To briefly re-iterate:
From idea to hand carved half model to using custom made devices to take off the lines to recording those measurements in a small notebook and turning them over to his head loftsman. Any sketches would have been generated in house. Don't forget they, the Herreshof Mfg.Co. were hard hit by the hurricane of 1938(?) which probably didn't help with any archives.

[Snoo973]

yep, im quite familiar with that method of building, its still used by a quantity of small old boatshops in north east of Italy (where im from) when they modify known kinds of hulls, some of them even draw a sort of rough sketch on the boards that they will later use to build the boat just to have an idea of measurements so to use the wood at the best, leaving nothing at all on drawings or half hulls models. Everything stays in the head of the builder.
Mah ill keep looking and when ill come up with enough material ill post it, ya never know, it could be useful for someone else too.