Fishing trimarans of Bali

[brian.cunningham]

I'm watching GOING PLACES on PBS
The episode is about the island of Bali

Towards the end they go out fishing on traditional sailing trimarans.

They first motor out, the engine mounted close to the central canoe like hull. The triangular sail is set once they are out at the fishing grounds. Both the crossbeams and the floats are slim, the floats themselves seem to be made of logs.

Seems like a nice low cost solution for those that do not have the $$$ to fabricate higher displacement floats. I've seen Wharram use logs on his sailing proa canoe, but this is the only place I've seem them used on a trimaran.

[Leon m]

Brian
Have you ever seen the movie "The Last Sailor"
I believe it was called?It's narrated by
Orson Wells.
It shows tons of boats from around the world,
many multihulls with interesting sail rigs.I
found it to be very fascinating!
I barrowed a copy from my local library.
Leon M

[brian.cunningham]

:cool: I'll look for it smile.gif

BTW more info on the Indonesian trimarans:
From: Brian Southwood
To: multihull_boatbuilder@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu Nov 28 2002, 8:46 PM PST
Subject: Re: [multihull_boatbuilder] Re: fishing trimirans in Bali

According to Adrian Horridge (Outrigger canoes of Bali and Madura, Indonesia 1987. ISBN 0-930897-20-X ) The central, upwardly curving part of the outrigger boom called Bayangan is lashed to the boat with rattan or cheap plastic rope. The material is not mentioned but is probably a local hardwood. The connector piece between the outrigger boom and the float is called Cedik and is a naturally curved piece of hardwood connected to the boom by a lashing and a wooden peg at the scarf joint. The wood used for the cedik is Calophyllum inophyllum.

The outrigger floats are called Katir and are made from the largest species of bamboo in Indonesia ( Gigantochloa sp. ) They are removed from the boat when not in use and stored under cover to protect them from the weather. The pointed tip of the cedik fits into a hole bored in the float and is tied on by a rope which is taken around the float, pulled tight and then spiralled back around the cedik until it reaches the boom end where it is tied.

[brian.cunningham]

If you want to see some pictures of what I'm talking about.
http://www.stephan-henshall.com/canoes.html

From: Stephan Hunter Henshall
To: sailing_canoes@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [sailing_canoes] Canoeing in the Philippines.

Just in case anyone is interested, I have added a section with photos to my webpage on Bancas and Pump Boats. These are Filipino fishing and pleasure/work canoes with outriggers of bamboo. The Bancas are mostly dugouts. Pump Boats are larger, plywood and frame built with Brigs and Stratton type engines. Sail rigs are bamboo and tarp. While most are rigged for downwind sailing none of the photos show that. You can get a 16 foot dugout for about $30.00 US here.

My plan is to set one up with a cat-ketch rig, leeboard and tip up rudder.

Regards to all,
Steve.
I was surprised to find out how large these boats get! :eek:

[Leon m]

Brian
How's Swiftwood coming along ? got any resent
photos
Leon

[brian.cunningham]

Going pretty good
I've had to reorganize the basement to work on it.
That took about a week!

Glad I moved it inside, 4 inches of snow on the ground!

[Wild Dingo]

Good to hear too Brian!... Imagine leaving your baby out there in the freezin snow!! :eek:

Now these here trimarran outrigger boats of Bali... heavy looking suckers aint they?

Ive been thunking you know... now the thing is Im going to get into gettin the wee lassies done hopefully by February and I have the plans for the 20ft White Gluide and was playin around with the idea of getting some light ali poles like tent poles and joining them into a 3 canoe tri then utilizing that awflaminsome crab claw sail rig... what thunk you fellas would it work?

Okay the wee lassies if I build two at 11ft 6in and bring the breasthooks back further into the boat about 18in either end... and the same process with the white guide or puttin in a larger stronger thwart {secured to the keel?} around 5 and a half feet... there would be a difference of 8ft6in in length between the two styles of canoe... thus putting the outrigger canoes central next to the white guide would allow a 4ft3in overhang either end... now Im thinking of making the distance between the outrigger canoes to the white guide about 5ft... so with the white guide being around 34in wide the wee lassies bein about 25in wide plus the 5ft either side an overall beam of something like 17 or so feet sounds good right?

One task Im still wondering about is would I need a rudder on the central white guide or not... and where would I locate the mast step actually come to thunk on it Todd where are you?? you got any info on locating the crab claw or is it try and try and try until you find the location?... is there a method to finding the placement point for the mast setup?

mmmmm would probably have to rig up some sort of waterproof cover for the outrigger canoes... mmmm thunkin thunkin thunkin :rolleyes:
Okay back to the drawing board!!

Actually... what about makin two Kayaks and whackin them side by side with a wee lassie in the middle??? HOOT or what??? :cool:

Take it easy
Shane

[Leon m]

Wild Dingo
I would like to recomend a couple of reads
that may help you with your project.I found
them to be very helpfull.

"Understanding Boat Design" by Ted Brewer
Good info on mast placement,and a good mention
on trimaran design.etc etc.You can order it
from the WB store.

And for a good read on building amas and akas
(to people like me,outrigger stuff).WB mag issue
#131

I've been meaning to ask you!What is a
Vegamite sandwich? smile.gif :confused:

Good luck! Leon M

[Wild Dingo]

HA!!! Vegemite sandwich?? aaaahhhh that is some wonderous stuff that vegemite mate!! aweflaminsome!!!

Now its black... thick... spreads easy as... babys and kids love the goop... sticks fast to everything and anything in sight... tastes like crap... mmmmmm what esle?... sorta like marmite is the british institution of toast and sandwich spreads so too is vegemite Aussie answer well actually vegemite was first cab of the rack if memory serves...

Now a sandwich... two lumps of bread bit of butter and whatever the heck you want to toss or swipe in there then bung one on the other and there yer go... a sanga!!

Really mate... vegemite is just bitumin emulsion in a jar!... yummoohhh burrrp herrruuuupp!! heave ho away we go!! HA!! ...no sane reason for it hoons just love the crap damned if I ever understood why but then I gave up tryin to understand them critters after the first half dozen...

Take it easy
Shane

[ 12-11-2002, 10:38 PM: Message edited by: Wild Dingo ]