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Thad Van Gilder
12-14-2005, 07:19 AM
I just read that The Gazela of Philadelphia is sponsoring a chanty singer at the Bent Elbo Bar in Flourtown, Pa.
It's 10 bucks to get in, it benefits the ship.
It's from 5 to 8 This saturday.
The Bent Elbo is just North West of Philadelphia, out in the suburbs. It's a few minutes from the fort washington exit off the Turnpike.
-Thad
[ 12-14-2005, 11:09 AM: Message edited by: Thad Van Gilder ]
Evan Showell
12-14-2005, 10:38 AM
Pet peeve -- It's chantey or chanty. A shanty is a shack.
Tom Robb
12-14-2005, 05:00 PM
Ack! Just when I thought the folk song scare was over :rolleyes:
Stiletto
12-14-2005, 05:24 PM
The Oxford Reference Dictionary sez it is shanty, right after the listing for shanty as a shack. It doesnt list chanty as a synonym.
Evan Showell
12-15-2005, 02:24 PM
AskOxford.com -- online reference disctionary lists both forms, but appears to suggest chanty as preferred, in that the synonym for shanty is listed as chanty whereas chanty is not listed with synonyms. I suspect perhaps a difference between American and British English. There is no additional meaning for chanty and the indication is that its derivation is French from chantez -- to sing.
As the Brits would say -- I give "full marks" for Chanty and deduct a point for shanty given its alternate meaning as a shack.
I do, however, stand corrected by our colleague from the antipodes.
Go ahead Thad, change the thread title back. Wink.
[ 12-15-2005, 02:48 PM: Message edited by: Evan Showell ]
Thorne
12-15-2005, 02:34 PM
So you can say, "You shan't chant a shanty in a shanty."
Let me think about that one...
;O )
[ 12-15-2005, 02:34 PM: Message edited by: Thorne ]
Vince Brennan
12-15-2005, 06:34 PM
There's also a (Chantey)(Shanty)(Sczeaunteaigh) Night at the Mermaid Inn in Chestnut Hill PA once a month, led by a strange person named Charlie Miller.
http://www.themermaidinn.net
Next one is (it says so RIGHT THERE!) Dec 26th.
(Ask for the Rampage Stout! Awesome stuff!)
[ 12-15-2005, 06:37 PM: Message edited by: Vince Brennan ]
Stiletto
12-16-2005, 05:34 PM
Evan, it must be another example of two cultures separated by a common language. Your pet peeve seemed odd enough to my ears to make me look it up.
Upon re reading my post, the tone of it sounds sanctimonious.
Sorry for that,that wasnt my intention.
Best wishes for the festive season.
Tristan
12-16-2005, 06:45 PM
Shantymen sang Chantys (Chanties?) which they prounced Shanty
bamamick
12-17-2005, 05:00 AM
I was at Mystic Seaport once and they were playing some of those shanty chanty's over the p.a. system. I asked the nice lady at the desk if she ever got tired of listening to it. She smiled and said 'yes. I get tired of it once a day, about two minutes after I get here'. I thought that that was hilarious.
Mickey Lake
Hughman
12-17-2005, 08:17 AM
Oh yeah. My appreciation of sea shantys improves in direct correlation to the quantity of rum imbibed by all present.
...or if I'm actually hauling a halyard!
Kermit
12-19-2005, 08:46 PM
Careful there! I'm the guy in the hat with the red band... tongue.gif
http://www.shiftysailors.net/
'Scuze me if this offends the self-promotion rule. :rolleyes:
Hughman
12-19-2005, 11:08 PM
Anybody heard of Joanna Colcord?
No? oh well....
Canoeyawl
12-20-2005, 01:11 AM
I have her book around here somewhere, she was a neighbor of ours...
Jonathan Kabak
12-20-2005, 08:28 AM
Hughman,
Colcord along with William Main Doerflinger and Stan Hugill are the big three of the Chanty Book scene atleast on this side of the pond. If memory serves Hugill published 3 or 4 books of sailor songs (if we want to get technical a chanty is only used for work and other tunes are forebitters or fore hatch songs). Fredrick Pease Harlow who wrote The Making of a Sailor Chantying Aboard American Ships also edited a book called Chantying Aboard American Ships.
JK
Hughman
12-20-2005, 06:27 PM
Originally posted by Canoeyawl:
I have her book around here somewhere, she was a neighbor of ours...You from Searsport? And how old are you anyway??
Hughman
12-20-2005, 06:30 PM
Jonathan,
Yes indeed...
I'd like to see a sea music festival happen here in Maine (but I'm afraid it might attract morris dancers.. :eek: )
Canoeyawl
12-20-2005, 10:37 PM
Yup, Searsport...I didn't say I knew her - LOL. When your family is in a small town for 165 years or so, you know who the neighbors are and were! My grandfather knew them. I have lived away from the East Coast for 40 years, but still spend August with the family in Searsport...
Hughman
12-21-2005, 10:21 AM
Originally posted by Canoeyawl:
Yup, Searsport...I didn't say I knew her - LOL. When your family is in a small town for 165 years or so, you know who the neighbors are and were! My grandfather knew them. I have lived away from the East Coast for 40 years, but still spend August with the family in Searsport...send me a PM (private message button). Beer?
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