Mahone Bay Boat Show pics (large file)

[mmd]

A few photos I took last evening at the show:

A Bluenose-class sloop by Stevens Boatworks
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid72/pd124f1cc3abeb5a710c29fdcc411e24a/fb83f830.jpg

A Bolger Light Schooner coming in after a race
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid72/pc84290952e5432337f2b0dd5457254bd/fb83f7fc.jpg

The women's team practicing for next month's International Dory Races, with Cape Island cruiser in the background
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid72/pb0ed81f7f4087303efba3f9b966ace54/fb83f7e4.jpg

An as-yet-unidentified (identified! - it is Comet II, a Tancook schooner built by Stevens of Second Penninsula) Tancook-style schooner
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid72/p3a1ce8b8316c1ff94f053f527540ee67/fb83f7cd.jpg

The Bolger Windsprint fleet hauled up after the daily races
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid72/pd69190a7ddabfdf65412e8eb2935d76c/fb83f7b1.jpg

[ 08-02-2003, 03:11 AM: Message edited by: mmd ]

[R.I.Singer30]

Thanks mmd smile.gif ,it didn't take long at all to down load through the dialup.I qued up and went to the atlas to find exactly where Mahoney Bay was and before I got out of the seat it was up.I'm sure I've been by it on rt.103 but not sure whether I've been right up to it.It's possible I have ,we used to do side jaunts down rt.3.Maybe in one of the next years trips.

[Donn]

Mighty sweet lines on that Cape Island cruiser!

[Art Read]

Sweet! Any construction details on that Bluenose class sloop?

[oldriverat]

Thanks mmd! Nice pics. On the Windsprint second from the right, is the foredeck fastened to the mast partner and thwart?

[mmd]

Art: This particular Bluenose-class sloop is planked in mahogany with oak backbone & oak steamed ribs. For additional info on the class and on Stevens Boatworks, go to http://www.cs.ubc.ca/spider/flinn/bluenose/sloop/sloop.html If you have any specific questions after checking out the site, I'll help if I can.

Memphis: Yes, it is. Same arrangement on 4th & 5th boats in line. Much stronger and looks better, too. I'm heading back to the show this later afternoon, so I'll try to get a detail pic for you. Meanwhile, another shot of the "fleet":
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid72/pc38a14a4b5f9a4ec3308a5d174e49d73/fb836b60.jpg

[ 08-01-2003, 02:41 PM: Message edited by: mmd ]

[oldriverat]

Thanks mmd. I'm almost to the point of installing the fore and aft decks on mine. This gives me different and possibly better alternative. Also, if you don't mind, could you get me the mast dimensions at the base. The plans state 2 to 2/12 inches square. That seems a little weak to me. :confused:

[ 08-01-2003, 05:06 PM: Message edited by: Memphis Mike ]

[mrs. mmd]

Memphis...MMD is already over at the festival. We're going over to meet up with him so I will take your question with me.

[oldriverat]

Thanks Mrs. mmd! smile.gif

[John Teetsel]

"Missed it by that much!" Maybe next year. smile.gif

[ken mcclure]

Wonder if Margo knew about this. Hmmm. Jump on the ferry at Bar Harbor, be there in a flash......

[mrs. mmd]

I know John as I drove MMD over (it's his turn to relax and enjoy the bubbly) I commented on how much you guys would have enjoyed it.

And you would have even met our daughter..oh lucky you!! tongue.gif

And Ken, you guys are more then welcome to jump on that ferry and join us!

[ 08-01-2003, 06:19 PM: Message edited by: mrs. mmd ]

[mmd]

Jeeze, Memphis! Ya gotta let me answer one question afore ya asks the next one! :D

Mrs. MMD brought your question about mast foot thickness to me while I was kibbutzing with the Small Wooden Boat Assoc. of Nova Scotia (SWBANS) members at our permanently-reserved table (actually, we never leave - there is always somebody there to hold the fort!) at the Mug 'n' Anchor Pub, so I posed it to the assembled members. These included four Windsprint owners, including two of the owners of the decked boats, and the winner of the daily race today. Amidst the roar of bragging, lies, and heart-felt toasts to each others' health, their duly considered reply was, "Yeah. Well.. Sort of. I think. Maybe. What was the question?" :rolleyes: Keith's beer has that effect on some, ya know.

Bottom line is, I think so. I didn't measure the mast when I took the pic below, and wasn't about to leave my beer unattended around that pack of sea dogs to go back to the boat ramp to do so, but I think that the pic shows that 2-1/2" is a reasonable size.

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid72/p99e4b8f49a277be29891287608452c34/fb825272.jpg

Next question? :D

[mmd]

More pics from the show:

A 1961 Mahone PlyCraft with original 1961 35-hp Johnson
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid72/p5b1fcf08c21e579d45f791eb68e38f44/fb824b19.jpg

The dashboard of the '61 PlyCraft
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid72/paba2347f86dfa90efecaf1cf3b3b2a61/fb824ae6.jpg

An early (late '50's ?, early '60's?) Indian Point lobsterboat, a variation on the Cape Islander
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid72/p33813beddd328314b7ded56ddfbe844e/fb824aff.jpg

A 1950 plank-on-frame 18-ft skiff, built in the same manner and of similar form to the Cape Islanders of the day. If it worked for the 36-footer, why change for the skiff?
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid72/paaab0dd935f4089e64de7fa34cdd7275/fb824ac7.jpg

A profile view of the skiff
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid72/p32442951d785d3049861217ac09723cc/fb824aaa.jpg

Another Cape Island cruiser, this one showing the broken-sheer variation popular in some regions.
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid72/paee3a54b8b91ae5e95fec3e72f6879e6/fb824a9c.jpg

"Hey! The bar is this way!" Ryerson guides a guy landing his two-person stitch-and-glue Volkskayak
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid72/p81f1fd07dc929682543c99fa38d3be82/fb824a80.jpg

[oldriverat]

Thanks mmd. Next question is the mast looks thicker at the partner and tapers off to 2 1/2 inches at the foot. Is that true? I've never built a mast before and will probably wear out the moaning chair over this. I guess what I'm asking is what are the overall dimensions of the unfinished stock used in the construction of the mast. The plans state 2 1/2 inches square by 15ft 6inches long. The masts in the pictures look thicker than that above the partner. :confused:

[mmd]

I am not familiar with the scantlings of the design; I have not built one nor even looked closely at the plans so I can't speak authoritatively on them. And of course, now I am ten miles from the fleet so I can't measure the mast. It does seem, however that the masts are in the order of 3" to 3-1/2" in diameter at the partners. If you are not misinterpeting the plans and it really does spec a 2-1/2" square mast, I agree that it seems a bit small.

Just to toss a further wrench in the works, most of the SWBANS Windsprint owners are going to replace their solid spars with 3-1/2" diameter bird's-mouthed hollow ones. Same strength, half the weight aloft. WB issue 149 had an article on how to build them.

[Art Read]

Mike, is that ALL the plans specify for the mast? It seems for a tapered spar, and virtually ALL are, they would need to provide information to determine the tapers. My plans gave dimensions and location for the widest part, (at the gaff) and also for the bottom and top ends. Three different numbers. You sure they don't have something marked on the drawing itself? Perhaps on another "view"? 2 2/2" seems a bit small for a fifteen foot long spar. My 22' mast is four inches at it's widest. About 3 1/2" at the heel and 2 1/2 at it's top.

[oldriverat]

In Payson's book, it gives all the information for a couple of the other boats concerning construction of the mast but very little on the Windsprint. For the other boats it shows the length, degree in taper at 2ft. intervals...ect.
It could be the information is there and I'm missing it. If it is, it sure is not provided in the same manner as the other two boats.

It could be he intends for me to refer back to the plans for another boat { he mentions doing this sometimes} but if so, that would mean starting off with a 2 1/2 in. sq. 15ft. 6in. long piece of unfinished stock for the mast. It doesn't make sense to me because the masts in mmd's pictures are clearly heavier than that.

[holzbt]

MM- It looks like you are supposed to measure the mast taper from the full sized plans. I looked through the book quickly and didn't find the dimensions for the mast that you need. I used proportional dividers and came up with a heavy 3" for the mast at the partners. I'm sure that my method is not the most accurate as I worked off the small drawings in the book but 3" or a bit more seems about right.

[oldriverat]

Thanks Holzbt. I noticed on the plan just now where is says "transverse scale full size" and I measured at the partner and it is 3 inches. According to another forumite, this tapers off to 2 inches at the step. Now if I can just figure out the taper from the step to the masthead. Sorry for the thread hijack mmd. I'll try :confused: to move this to B&R.

[mmd]

No problem, MMike - we all digress at times. :D

Well, Saturday was pretty much a write-off due to heavy rains. We had the SWBANS Annual General Meeting at the Mug & Anchor Pub in the morning and most of us proceeded to find a warm, dry spot to grab a well-needed powernap in the afternoon so we would be ready for the annual SWBANS BBQ in Stonehurst Sat. night. Fortunately, the rain let up just in time for the BBQ. Here is a bunch of my SWBANS buddies checking out the viability of the supplies in an out-of-date liferaft recently removed from a member's sailboat.

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid73/p1f1119a3daea6b5e87bd98b12de8e681/fb79ca2b.jpg

Sunday was a bit foggy, but the rain had passed and the races were on! There was a big-band jazz orchestra playing on the stage adjacent to the launch ramp, so the crews of the Windsprints decided to jive each other into the water:

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid73/p7f13ae99af36fd326cc8817771c0013d/fb79c461.jpg

Finally, the outbreak of lascivious dancing was contained and the Windsprint fleet was able to be launched for the final race of the week:

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid73/p51884dd87753b13cef759272ee348ec0/fb79ce9a.jpg

The Light schooners were the first to race. Here is two of the contenders vying for the line at the start:

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid73/padd7f2ac012b6d75e337db6ac643cd4e/fb79ce47.jpg

The mixed fleet of Windsprints and "Other" boats (two entries of experimental craft by SWBANS members) were next to go. This is a pic of the lead boats rounding the first mark:

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid73/p23c365237b2cdd5453fdb9f1841017bd/fb79ce20.jpg

At the end of the day, everybody came ashore for the awards ceremonies - as can be seen by the boat population at the dinghy dock in the pic below (the boat with the colourful sail is one of the experimental boats that raced earlier) - and to say good-bye to new and old friends until next year. Maybe we'll see YOU there next year! :D

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid73/p377c38371c6961d8085ebba4fe85e49f/fb79ce69.jpg

[mrs. mmd]

Nice pics there guy....but where is the movie theatre one????

[mmd]

I'm trying to be nice to you, dear... :rolleyes:

[mrs. mmd]

Thanks.....XOXO smile.gif

[ 08-05-2003, 11:07 AM: Message edited by: mrs. mmd ]

[Alan D. Hyde]

Mike, call Dynamite and ask him your mast question.

He's at (207)594-7587.

He's a helluva good guy; you'll have a great conversation. Please report back and let us know what he says.

Alan

[ 08-05-2003, 11:28 AM: Message edited by: Alan D. Hyde ]

[Dennis Marshall]

MMD, you didn't happen to race your own design (the one you drew for SWBANS) in the Windsprint Challenge, did you? If you did, how did she sail?

Dennis

[mmd]

<sigh> No, the Swabbie did not race. redface.gif

As yet, she remains a paper warrior, as commissioned work has taken precedence over the construction of the prototype boat. However, my daughter informs me that we will build it this winter! (The first hull is promised to her.)

[John B]

Thanks mmd. nice shots. loads a fun by the looks.

what vintage would that thar Comet II be roughly. .... 50's?( in the style of an earlier type obviously)

[mmd]

Thanks for the interest, John. For info on Comet II, go to http://www.nsschooner.ca/NSSA_Schooners/schooners/comet2.html

For info on the Nova Scotia Schooner Association, go to http://www.nsschooner.ca

[R.I.Singer30]

smile.gif Looks like a splendid time was had by all.Thanks for the pics.

[John B]

Thats really interesting stuff on Comet Michael.
She sounds like she's got a good owner who is extracting some speed from her. Looking at the earlier photo compared to your one, she's now trimmed slightly aft and the earlier photo also shows sails cut like boards. I bet the trim combined with the sails settling in to some shape( plus some advanced sailing skills of course) is making all the difference to her speed.