Maine Boatbuilders Show - pics [Archive]

imported_Steven Bauer

03-20-2004, 08:59 AM

Here are some pics from the Show. We never took any pictures of the peanut soup party back at my house. :(

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid108/p1b8dd9b38c8f8b6dae25bb4583c562fe/f949d9ec.jpg

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid108/p682af78394ad1b3407f124995074012f/f949d9ac.jpg

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid108/p66f80e4b28dc190c2f066f992f778a9c/f949d9d2.jpg

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid108/p1174b92e080c32ad86d0492a61b9c207/f949d829.jpg

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid108/p6bafb1214f0206c34fc30b422051fcc9/f949d9d0.jpg

J. Dillon

03-20-2004, 09:47 AM

Steve,
Looks good. Thanks for posting. smile.gif Can you explain the tiller /rudder arrangement on the third pic ? :rolleyes: It appears the tiller goes to the aft end of the rudder. :confused:

JD

Leon m

03-20-2004, 01:47 PM

Whats the story on that double ended thingy in
pic #4 ?

Figment

03-20-2004, 09:21 PM

The double-ended thingy in pic no.4....

I thought that was a GREAT little boat. It was like a miniature/charicature of The Ultimate Ocean Cruiser. The details were fantastic, right down to the 3" dia. portlights.

a 17' double-ended passagemaker isn't really my cup of tea, but I got a real kick out of that boat.

abe

03-21-2004, 09:08 AM

More Pics:

Holland 38' - Rummery's Boatyard, Maine
Solid Mahogany House

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid108/p1ef89aa9b17d9b86a3ddbd5295966216/f948be0d.jpg

Canoe Art from Island Falls, Jerry Stelmok

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid108/p991ba17515864783a74d9185294520ff/f948be09.jpg

Abeking and Rasmussen Design from Apprenticeshop:

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid108/p483680d33edd3a8b14a185ef693c97f1/f948be11.jpg

Clarence R. Heisler & Son Ltd. - Nova Scotia
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid108/p8bb6bb0e086be941eed9c9f8698837e3/f948be05.jpg

Builder Drew Maple - White/Herreshoff Flatfish

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid108/p6f058f11d848f7fed09745f1732a36fd/f948bdf9.jpg

Photos of our meeting in the new Harbor View room will be posted later.

(Edited for proper acknowledgment)
abe

[ 03-21-2004, 12:20 PM: Message edited by: abe ]

reddog

03-21-2004, 09:15 AM

Steven and Abe,thanks for the pics.I really have to get down to Portland for this show one of these years.I see Cecil Heisler was down this year.That's a fine little sailing tender they built.
Take care;
Earl

abe

03-21-2004, 09:25 AM

Earl, A knowlegable crew from Halifax handed out a brochure from the Nova Scotia Boatbuilders Association:

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid108/paa76bfc5ee41e03d0f0b70d83d1e15d3/f948bdfa.jpg

[ 03-21-2004, 09:46 AM: Message edited by: abe ]

Wild Dingo

03-21-2004, 10:06 AM

Thanks fellas!!!

Question arises... is this a show for purely professional builders and organizations or the amature?

And as Leon asked Whats the story on that double ended thingy in
pic #4 ? that canoe... man is that over the top or what!!! :eek: ;)

AND... whats the story with the big fella?? what size boats did they have I see a few large ones were they all motorized or were there a couple of large sail boats

And why the blazes didnt you take photos of the gang at the pea soup event Steven?? mmmm?? slack I say slack!! tongue.gif

Ken Hutchins

03-21-2004, 12:21 PM

This show like most others are primarilly for the pro builders. They spent the bucks for a spot to display their goods and therefore hope to attract more business. It is a good show for DIY types to get inspiration, ideas, spend more money, etc. some of the suppliers have spaces there, such as Hamilton marine, of course their Portland store is in the building next to the show. There were a few large sailboats there, a Robinhood 36, another restored one I think was 40', some years there are larger ones, depends on what the builders inprocess and have available to show. Of course it is a great meeting place for forumites as well. Shirl and I enjoyed the show, meeting the forumites and the hospitality at Steves. smile.gif

Hwyl

03-21-2004, 04:25 PM

Shane, to get in the show an exhibitor must have built (or had a hand in building) the item themselves. So it keeps most brokers away.There are exeptions like the guys selling outboard motors, but not too many. There are lots of one man operations (Like our own Thad and also Jim Conlin) lots of exhibitors have either real jobs and the boat thing is a side line, or they do some other related business too. There seemed to be more big boats at this show than before. There was a restoration of a Taiwanese boat, I'm not sure why they put so much effort into it, I guess the owner paid. There don't seem to be many "salesmen" types there, lots of passing of knowledge and tips.

Well worth a trip from Aussieland.

imported_Steven Bauer

03-21-2004, 05:38 PM

Last year you were in hospital Shane. :( We sent prayers from the show.

So I went back to the show today to take more pictures but the camera was at the hotel with Mary. :mad: And when she came down the the Show for a little while she didn't bring it. Miscommunication. :(

So, Abe, did you get a shot that shows the stern of that little Abeking and Rasmussen Design ? That was a work of art.

This is a Windward 17, built in England, I think:

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid108/pa3a99403bf5e3d130add156d77040d26/f945eb0a.jpg

There are two lift-up panels on the starboard side of the cockpit over a well that holds a 2hp outboard. And there is room under the panels to store the outboard on it's side when not in use. There's a plug that fits into the well, when in place you hardly notice it from the outside.

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid108/pe48ac97fc4a64732c13a044a47a9e311/f945eb01.jpg

Also note the cool hatch cover. This photo shows that it is plexiglass but you don't even notice it at first.

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid108/pd06a90308a5c65f9529c7e1367472f95/f945e8f3.jpg

The interior is spartan, but nice:

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid108/p5e8807d6699fb3c7e54609f1d96acff6/f945eafe.jpg

Hey!, lookie what I found. It shows a little more of the sterm of that A & R tender:

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid108/p5abdbfdbd803ecf323cf756f59c76ea7/f945eae5.jpg

Steven

imported_Steven Bauer

03-21-2004, 05:53 PM

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid108/p67e6243e0954348e2b9e141a88b00be7/f949d990.jpg http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid108/pda03f99b5a2a039cf24cf5a3d6d04230/f949d993.jpg http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid108/p8e8d129994df838a31e2844eff3c2b9b/f949d99c.jpg

Here's a Norseboat:

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid108/p337933289fa40650b71c4d47eb35432c/f949d9a3.jpg

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid108/p4c6f0ec3dd9c59df4c75007c19db5b13/f949d9c9.jpg

I think this is forumite Jim Conlon's all mahogany lapstrake dinghy. This boat is going to be the tender for a Concodia Yawl. He's hoping that when the other 102 Concordia Yawl owners see this one the orders will start piling up. :D Pass the word Margo!

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid108/pdefc8104a763998a5e9ace1a046daeaf/f949d9b2.jpg

I hope I got that right, help me out if not, OK, Jim?

imported_Steven Bauer

03-21-2004, 05:59 PM

JD, you're gonna have to ask Thad about the rudder on his Norwegian Pram. Pretty cool how the tiller has the upper pintle in it and the socket it goes into also will hold an oarlock for sculling.

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid108/p4416a0eb110559bf4a71163c468b9c1f/f949d9e6.jpg

He said something like 'Why shouldn't the tiller be attached to the back end of the rudder? Thats where the stress is.'

Steven

Doug Wood

03-21-2004, 06:15 PM

Always a fun time, great folks to talk to and of course, lots of beautiful boats. For me, the boat of the show was the A&R tender that the Apprenticeshop folks built. First time I've seen this design and immediately fell in love.

rbgarr

03-21-2004, 08:45 PM

The Maine Maritime Museum has the A+R tender in its collection that those lines were drawn from. Prior to the donation it was stored for years in the late sixties and seventies under cover in a steel fabrication supply shed at Goudy and Stevens Shipyard in East Boothbay, Maine. When I worked there (1975) it had become completely covered with sandblast detritus. It has a wonderful shape, and I've got a relative who has another one more lightly built, entirely varnished. :cool:

J. Dillon

03-21-2004, 09:03 PM

Steve, Thanks for all the additional pics. That last one showing the rudder clarified my query.
The pin in the transom/tiller was not apparent in the first picture. :cool:

JD

JimD

03-21-2004, 09:06 PM

Great thread, thanks everyone.

Ben Fuller

03-21-2004, 09:53 PM

You didn't happen to get a pic of the best rowing/ sailing boat in the show the 16' Shew and Burnham whitehall restored by International School of Yacht Restoration? A mere 5 large will let you take it homw. Also a very interesting restoration of a large tender from the Pacific NW by Triad.

JimConlin

03-21-2004, 10:16 PM

I had a bit of a crunch before the show. Heaven forbid that the owner see the irregular spacing of the Gunwale guard screws. I ran short in many ways. It'll be fixed.

Other notable things in the picture:
The boat in the background is a genuine, authentic Herreshoff Fish class boat, newly built by Dave Corcoran of Bullhouse Boatworks. It's the first fish to be built since the demise of the Herreshoff Manufacturing Company. It's a beautiful thing and for sale at a very reasonable price.
The people in the photo are Kurt Hasselbalch, curator of the Hart Nautical Collection at MIT (which owns most of the HMC designs), moi and Dave Corcoran, builder of the lovely Fish.

[ 03-21-2004, 10:23 PM: Message edited by: JimConlin ]

Leon m

03-21-2004, 10:21 PM

Very Nice ! ...Thanks!

Ed Harrow

03-21-2004, 11:16 PM

Originally posted by JimConlin:
...Dave Corcoran, builder of the lovely Fish.The guy is brilliant. An artist, an engineer, a draftsman, a pattern maker, a foundryman. He reminds me a lot of "Poppie" (my grandfather) in that respect. I wonder if he (Dave) can sew ;) , that was another of Poppie's talents. The boat? Kinetic sculpture. Drop dead beautiful.

Oh, Jim's boat was nice, too. tongue.gif

skuthorp

03-22-2004, 03:33 AM

Wish I'd been there too!!
:D :eek: :mad: :D

Concordia..41

03-22-2004, 04:28 AM

Wish I'd been there too!!
Ditto.
Note to self: Plan on Maine next March ;)

Jim - that looks amazing. I'm sure the show brought many well-deserved compliments. I'll get the promised fax out to you today.

- Margo

reddog

03-22-2004, 07:26 AM

Great pics!!Jim,is that a curved gaff on the dinghy?
Earl

imported_Steven Bauer

03-22-2004, 08:40 AM

Jim's boat is below the pic you're looking at. The boat above is a Norseboat (http://www.norseboat.com) designed by Chuck Paine.

From their website:

http://www.norseboat.com/images/norseboat1.jpg

It's a sweet little boat with some really well thought out features. Here's the camping setup:

http://www.norseboat.com/images/tentsideview1.JPG

Steven

Bob Perkins

03-22-2004, 08:57 AM

I thought it was a great show this year too. I got a slow start Friday for various reasons so I didn't get there until 1:00PM. (Missed the 11:30 pow wow.)

I managed to meet Jim Conlin and Thad for the first time - But none of the other forumites :(

I know we were all there at the same time though. I even bumped into my 6th grade Trumpet teacher - go figure!

The plan is to stay in Newport for the WBS show.. Maybe I'll be on time for once..

Take Care,
Bob

abe

03-22-2004, 09:17 AM

More pics:

The IYRS Whitehall Feather as requested:

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid108/p6d9fc18b71ea40763631e1d5aaa8b21a/f948bdff.jpg

The New Harber View Room - Homemade Soda Bread from the Harrow Kitchen

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid108/p3483e58096cb818151a80e00030816a3/f94383cb.jpg

Another Whitehall:

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid108/paccc435dea401a6a5a17059ba5c695b8/f948bd65.jpg

Shaw and Tenny - Always a big crowd here!

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid108/p852731bbedaec23b85f4b2593a66de80/f94383c7.jpg

abe

Ian McColgin

03-22-2004, 09:44 AM

Dern. Wish I'd been there.

I particularly like the bent gaff - sorta Manfred Curry meets the Dutch.

After that pegged tiller breaks at the pivot due to the pin so weakening the stick, it could be remade the older way, with the pin coming out of a hoop shrink forged onto the tiller.

Or the even older approach we had on an old catboat where the leading edge of the rudder came up and cleared the transom and had a kind of plate inverted U at the top. Same kind of fitting at the aft end down by the water. Tiller just goes through both fittings. You get the same pretty sweep of the tiller and the engineering advantage of putting the tiller strain right back there, but without the weakness and with the added advantage that tiller and rudder can be readily seperated.

It's a very attractive idea but a long shallow rudder puts on a huge strain.

imported_Steven Bauer

03-22-2004, 10:07 AM

Ian, that boat with the awful planking layout was there again. :eek: It was finished this time but they didn't fix the problem of where the planks landed. That was one of the things I wanted to get a pic of if I'd had the camera when I went back.

And no one has shown it and I know it's not wooden but I'm friends with the designer and it's kinda cute so here goes - The Portland Pudgy, a dual purpose dinghy/lifeboat:

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid108/p8010ab7d8af0072e50a40ddf198f2806/f949d82f.jpg

It's roto-molded now, last years prototype was fiberglass. The exposure canopy has been redesigned but wasn't ready for the show. Everything shown in the picture stows away inside the hull compartments. Rig, oars, exposure canopy, the works. It has an electrical system and all. The basic boat is around $1200, with sail rig it's about $2000 and the exosure canopy adds still more.

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid108/pbf1703711a584a5a4dfae44796da7914/f949d82d.jpg

Lots of neat features. The leeboards store under the stern seat with the rudder when not in use.
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid108/p8fb621fa8a92ad70fd70a6a80456ebc3/f949d831.jpg

They had crowds gathered around - go Dave!

Steven

Oh - heres the website, due to be updated soon, I hear - www.portlandpudgy.com (http://www.portlandpudgy.com)

Ian McColgin

03-22-2004, 10:15 AM

Thanks. I really like that lifeboat-tender. Were I only able to have one, it's be a very hard call between that and the Tinker.

The key problem with that boat is that's it's really pretty large for the size of boat for which it would be suitable. Lotta depth to the hull sections so it makes a big obstruction on deck.

Thad

03-22-2004, 03:44 PM

Sorry you weren't there to see it Ian.

Hughman

03-22-2004, 06:10 PM

Just so forumites don't get bored with boat pictures..... http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid108/p36ae56b987171e070cdd9c5440de5e97/f9423d92.jpg

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid108/p3c47e07b1bd27f40a51327958c8a4791/f9423d90.jpg

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid108/p9e21d42222a1f1040ada1c032f554738/f9423d8d.jpg

Steven Bauer tells me this building is the site where the first Panama Canal tow engines were manufactured. These narrow guage cars are part of an operating exhibit along the waterfront.

Hwyl

03-22-2004, 06:40 PM

No one's talked about the planking on Jim Conlin's A&R Concordia pram. (Correct me if I'm wrong Jim) He had 10' veneers and he laminated them onto 3 mil plywood (scarphing as necessary I guess) so he had these beautiful 10' long mahogany strakes, that appeared seamless.Nice looking and clever.

I agree about Dave Corcoran being a great builder (and all round good guy) I'm lucky to count him amongst my friends. I'm always busy in the Summer, but he offered (O.K. I twisted his arm) to let me sail his Coquina (my personal fave' Herreshoff) this Summer, so that thought is sustaining me through this cold spell. Those of you who bought the WB calendar last year, will have seen a great picture of Dave and his Coquina.

brian.cunningham

03-23-2004, 01:24 AM

Originally posted by Ed Harrow:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by JimConlin:
...Dave Corcoran, builder of the lovely Fish.The guy is brilliant. An artist, an engineer, a draftsman, a pattern maker, a foundryman. He reminds me a lot of "Poppie" (my grandfather) in that respect. I wonder if he (Dave) can sew ;) , that was another of Poppie's talents. The boat? Kinetic sculpture. Drop dead beautiful.

Oh, Jim's boat was nice, too. tongue.gif </font>[/QUOTE]Talking to him was the highlight of the trip

We talked alot about coquina, which he brought to the WB show last year.

I noticed the curved gaff Norse boat on the way out, I wish they had it out earlier. :(

Those paddles were something else, couldn't feel the weight! :eek:

Nice seeing everyone again!

brian.cunningham

03-23-2004, 01:38 AM

Ben Fuller

03-23-2004, 06:44 PM

I too noted the curved gaff and single halyard rig,in the "Norse" boat, the single halyard means that you miss the main benefit of a gaff: adjusting the draft. Also noted the pic of the boat underway with the huge twist in the sail, and thought about the big vang and big mainsheet that is needed to keep full batten sails under control. And I also thought about going forward to pull the sail down in a seaway. But it sure looks good in the parking lot.

[ 03-23-2004, 06:46 PM: Message edited by: Ben Fuller ]

stormpetrel

03-25-2004, 05:05 PM

Thanks everybody for the pics and comments. I love
the MBB show, but had to miss it this year (for the 1st time since 1996) because a family member
was real sick. I should say, I've also had great
conversations there, including with the son and
granddaughter of the guy who built my Rhodes 18
many years ago. Here's to next year!!