Need sail info

[Pelican]

Where can I get info (either print or video) on making and using a steadying sail?

[Pelican]

Where can I get info (either print or video) on making and using a steadying sail?

[Pelican]

Where can I get info (either print or video) on making and using a steadying sail?

[Mike Field]

Tell you what, Pelican -- you give us some info about the boat, and we'll give you some info about the sail.

[Mike Field]

Tell you what, Pelican -- you give us some info about the boat, and we'll give you some info about the sail.

[Mike Field]

Tell you what, Pelican -- you give us some info about the boat, and we'll give you some info about the sail.

[Todd Bradshaw]

If you go to http://www.sailrite.com they have "how to use" info and assembly instructions for their anchor riding sails. It might be of help concerning other forms of steadying sails as well and the basic construction of all of them is pretty similar.
The cut should be flat and you want a fabric that's pretty heavy duty, yet fairly soft and easy to handle, with decent U.V. resistance. Some of the polyester cover fabrics like Odyssey and Top Gun are commonly used though softer grades of heavy Dacron sailcloth will also work. Thread should be polyester. Corners should have extra patches to build up thickness and can have grommets, sewn rings or webbed-on D-rings. Edges should be hemmed and should be cut with about 1.5"-2" of hollow for every 5' of length on any edge that is not supported by a spar. That's what keeps the thing from flapping, driving you nuts and beating itself to death. Edges put under tension by halyards and such should generally be either roped or webbed so that they don't just continue to stretch in use.

As Mike said, more info would help. Here on the forum, we like to have plenty of specifics before we give you eighty-seven totally different ways to arrive at a solution to what had seemed to be such a simple question. That's what makes it fun!

[Todd Bradshaw]

If you go to http://www.sailrite.com they have "how to use" info and assembly instructions for their anchor riding sails. It might be of help concerning other forms of steadying sails as well and the basic construction of all of them is pretty similar.
The cut should be flat and you want a fabric that's pretty heavy duty, yet fairly soft and easy to handle, with decent U.V. resistance. Some of the polyester cover fabrics like Odyssey and Top Gun are commonly used though softer grades of heavy Dacron sailcloth will also work. Thread should be polyester. Corners should have extra patches to build up thickness and can have grommets, sewn rings or webbed-on D-rings. Edges should be hemmed and should be cut with about 1.5"-2" of hollow for every 5' of length on any edge that is not supported by a spar. That's what keeps the thing from flapping, driving you nuts and beating itself to death. Edges put under tension by halyards and such should generally be either roped or webbed so that they don't just continue to stretch in use.

As Mike said, more info would help. Here on the forum, we like to have plenty of specifics before we give you eighty-seven totally different ways to arrive at a solution to what had seemed to be such a simple question. That's what makes it fun!

[Todd Bradshaw]

If you go to http://www.sailrite.com they have "how to use" info and assembly instructions for their anchor riding sails. It might be of help concerning other forms of steadying sails as well and the basic construction of all of them is pretty similar.
The cut should be flat and you want a fabric that's pretty heavy duty, yet fairly soft and easy to handle, with decent U.V. resistance. Some of the polyester cover fabrics like Odyssey and Top Gun are commonly used though softer grades of heavy Dacron sailcloth will also work. Thread should be polyester. Corners should have extra patches to build up thickness and can have grommets, sewn rings or webbed-on D-rings. Edges should be hemmed and should be cut with about 1.5"-2" of hollow for every 5' of length on any edge that is not supported by a spar. That's what keeps the thing from flapping, driving you nuts and beating itself to death. Edges put under tension by halyards and such should generally be either roped or webbed so that they don't just continue to stretch in use.

As Mike said, more info would help. Here on the forum, we like to have plenty of specifics before we give you eighty-seven totally different ways to arrive at a solution to what had seemed to be such a simple question. That's what makes it fun!

[Pelican]

OK guys, 'preciate the help. Here is what I got. DOLORES CATHERINE, a 39.5 foot lugger built at the Covacevich Shipyard in Biloxi, Miss. in 1936. 12 foot beam, 3 1/2 foot draft, gross of 14 tons. The old pulling mast measures 16 feet from the roof of the house to the top. Figure to make me a cargo boom and I could also use it for the sail.
Here is a couple of pic's.
The day I found her:
http://images.honesty.com/imagedata/4/1/9/16972419.jpg

And after 20 loooong days of quick and dirty to get her back in the water.
http://images.honesty.com/imagedata/4/2/0/16972420.jpg

Saved her from the burn pile. Got a third place in luggers under 50 foot at Biloxi last weekend (course there weren't but three under 50 foot there, but ya ain't got to tell everybody that)

Any help y'all can give would be 'preciated.
Pelican http://media5.hypernet.com/~dick/ubb/confused.gif

[Pelican]

OK guys, 'preciate the help. Here is what I got. DOLORES CATHERINE, a 39.5 foot lugger built at the Covacevich Shipyard in Biloxi, Miss. in 1936. 12 foot beam, 3 1/2 foot draft, gross of 14 tons. The old pulling mast measures 16 feet from the roof of the house to the top. Figure to make me a cargo boom and I could also use it for the sail.
Here is a couple of pic's.
The day I found her:
http://images.honesty.com/imagedata/4/1/9/16972419.jpg

And after 20 loooong days of quick and dirty to get her back in the water.
http://images.honesty.com/imagedata/4/2/0/16972420.jpg

Saved her from the burn pile. Got a third place in luggers under 50 foot at Biloxi last weekend (course there weren't but three under 50 foot there, but ya ain't got to tell everybody that)

Any help y'all can give would be 'preciated.
Pelican http://media5.hypernet.com/~dick/ubb/confused.gif

[Pelican]

OK guys, 'preciate the help. Here is what I got. DOLORES CATHERINE, a 39.5 foot lugger built at the Covacevich Shipyard in Biloxi, Miss. in 1936. 12 foot beam, 3 1/2 foot draft, gross of 14 tons. The old pulling mast measures 16 feet from the roof of the house to the top. Figure to make me a cargo boom and I could also use it for the sail.
Here is a couple of pic's.
The day I found her:
http://images.honesty.com/imagedata/4/1/9/16972419.jpg

And after 20 loooong days of quick and dirty to get her back in the water.
http://images.honesty.com/imagedata/4/2/0/16972420.jpg

Saved her from the burn pile. Got a third place in luggers under 50 foot at Biloxi last weekend (course there weren't but three under 50 foot there, but ya ain't got to tell everybody that)

Any help y'all can give would be 'preciated.
Pelican http://media5.hypernet.com/~dick/ubb/confused.gif

[Pelican]

This gives a better idea of the mast config:
http://images.andale.com/f2/115/106/2393946/990840367308_Mvc_005s.jpg

[Pelican]

This gives a better idea of the mast config:
http://images.andale.com/f2/115/106/2393946/990840367308_Mvc_005s.jpg

[Pelican]

This gives a better idea of the mast config:
http://images.andale.com/f2/115/106/2393946/990840367308_Mvc_005s.jpg

[Todd Bradshaw]

I don't know squat about powerboats, but don't they usually put steadying sails on the aft half of the boat? My gut feeling suggests that putting one that far forward is going to result in a boat that wanders back and forth constantly. I'll say one thing though - the mast doesn't look like it's going to break from the strain! Surely one of the Ians or somebody can give us more info.

[Todd Bradshaw]

I don't know squat about powerboats, but don't they usually put steadying sails on the aft half of the boat? My gut feeling suggests that putting one that far forward is going to result in a boat that wanders back and forth constantly. I'll say one thing though - the mast doesn't look like it's going to break from the strain! Surely one of the Ians or somebody can give us more info.

[Todd Bradshaw]

I don't know squat about powerboats, but don't they usually put steadying sails on the aft half of the boat? My gut feeling suggests that putting one that far forward is going to result in a boat that wanders back and forth constantly. I'll say one thing though - the mast doesn't look like it's going to break from the strain! Surely one of the Ians or somebody can give us more info.

[Mike Field]

That's a nice-looking boat you've got there, Pelican. Congratulations on getting her, and I hope she gives you a lot of fun.

I should think Todd's comments about construction of the sail are about all you'll need (and better than I could provide, anyway.) But I'm afraid he's right about the position of the mast. The best place for it would be as far aft of the CLR as possible -- ie right down towards the stern. If you put up a sail where the present mast is there'd be a tendency to induce lee helm, which no-one needs. It wouldn't matter a great deal, probably, until your motor conked out, but then you'd have to hand it just when it could be really useful.

The right place would really be down on the afterdeck, but just aft of the wheelhouse would probably be okay by the look of her. So what about a second mast? Use the foremast for the cargo boom and the after one to carry sail when required.

You could even turn big-ship and string radio aerials between the two.

More importantly, though, you'd have emergency power if required to keep you head-to-wind in heavy weather. But for that use, it would be better to consider the sail a storm trysail, and keep it small accordingly -- I wouldn't expect its steadying quality to be much reduced in normal use. (Or you might want to carry two sails, of course.)

Having gone that route, though, I suppose you could carry sail on both masts and turn her into a ketch or a schooner while you're about it. Possibilities, possibilities....

By the way, for a steadying sail, the new mast wouldn't need to be as large as the present one looks -- 6" dia. at the most, I should think.

Here are two photos of vessels carrying steadying sails. Each has two masts, and uses the foremast for loading --

http://albums.photopoint.com/j/View?u=1231924&a=10671402&p=49188630&Sequence=0&res=high



[This message has been edited by Mike Field (edited 05-26-2001).]

[Mike Field]

That's a nice-looking boat you've got there, Pelican. Congratulations on getting her, and I hope she gives you a lot of fun.

I should think Todd's comments about construction of the sail are about all you'll need (and better than I could provide, anyway.) But I'm afraid he's right about the position of the mast. The best place for it would be as far aft of the CLR as possible -- ie right down towards the stern. If you put up a sail where the present mast is there'd be a tendency to induce lee helm, which no-one needs. It wouldn't matter a great deal, probably, until your motor conked out, but then you'd have to hand it just when it could be really useful.

The right place would really be down on the afterdeck, but just aft of the wheelhouse would probably be okay by the look of her. So what about a second mast? Use the foremast for the cargo boom and the after one to carry sail when required.

You could even turn big-ship and string radio aerials between the two.

More importantly, though, you'd have emergency power if required to keep you head-to-wind in heavy weather. But for that use, it would be better to consider the sail a storm trysail, and keep it small accordingly -- I wouldn't expect its steadying quality to be much reduced in normal use. (Or you might want to carry two sails, of course.)

Having gone that route, though, I suppose you could carry sail on both masts and turn her into a ketch or a schooner while you're about it. Possibilities, possibilities....

By the way, for a steadying sail, the new mast wouldn't need to be as large as the present one looks -- 6" dia. at the most, I should think.

Here are two photos of vessels carrying steadying sails. Each has two masts, and uses the foremast for loading --

http://albums.photopoint.com/j/View?u=1231924&a=10671402&p=49188630&Sequence=0&res=high



[This message has been edited by Mike Field (edited 05-26-2001).]

[Mike Field]

That's a nice-looking boat you've got there, Pelican. Congratulations on getting her, and I hope she gives you a lot of fun.

I should think Todd's comments about construction of the sail are about all you'll need (and better than I could provide, anyway.) But I'm afraid he's right about the position of the mast. The best place for it would be as far aft of the CLR as possible -- ie right down towards the stern. If you put up a sail where the present mast is there'd be a tendency to induce lee helm, which no-one needs. It wouldn't matter a great deal, probably, until your motor conked out, but then you'd have to hand it just when it could be really useful.

The right place would really be down on the afterdeck, but just aft of the wheelhouse would probably be okay by the look of her. So what about a second mast? Use the foremast for the cargo boom and the after one to carry sail when required.

You could even turn big-ship and string radio aerials between the two.

More importantly, though, you'd have emergency power if required to keep you head-to-wind in heavy weather. But for that use, it would be better to consider the sail a storm trysail, and keep it small accordingly -- I wouldn't expect its steadying quality to be much reduced in normal use. (Or you might want to carry two sails, of course.)

Having gone that route, though, I suppose you could carry sail on both masts and turn her into a ketch or a schooner while you're about it. Possibilities, possibilities....

By the way, for a steadying sail, the new mast wouldn't need to be as large as the present one looks -- 6" dia. at the most, I should think.

Here are two photos of vessels carrying steadying sails. Each has two masts, and uses the foremast for loading --

http://albums.photopoint.com/j/View?u=1231924&a=10671402&p=49188630&Sequence=0&res=high



[This message has been edited by Mike Field (edited 05-26-2001).]

[Pelican]

Thanks a ton for y'all's advice. I can see now I should take a sailing course just to understand the terminology. At one time she had a rear mast and the nets were strung between them. Maybe I can just replace it.

[Pelican]

Thanks a ton for y'all's advice. I can see now I should take a sailing course just to understand the terminology. At one time she had a rear mast and the nets were strung between them. Maybe I can just replace it.

[Pelican]

Thanks a ton for y'all's advice. I can see now I should take a sailing course just to understand the terminology. At one time she had a rear mast and the nets were strung between them. Maybe I can just replace it.

[Concordia41]

Pelican -

Twenty days from the burn pile to the water. Egads, even if they were long days, that's pretty amazing! I think you're the one that needs to be giving advice here! You've got us beat by 9 months & we've no end in sight http://media5.hypernet.com/~dick/ubb/frown.gif

[Concordia41]

Pelican -

Twenty days from the burn pile to the water. Egads, even if they were long days, that's pretty amazing! I think you're the one that needs to be giving advice here! You've got us beat by 9 months & we've no end in sight http://media5.hypernet.com/~dick/ubb/frown.gif

[Concordia41]

Pelican -

Twenty days from the burn pile to the water. Egads, even if they were long days, that's pretty amazing! I think you're the one that needs to be giving advice here! You've got us beat by 9 months & we've no end in sight http://media5.hypernet.com/~dick/ubb/frown.gif

[Pelican]

Let me reopen this for just a minute. Maybe I am not understanding what a steadying sail does. The more I read y'all's replies and the more I look at the pixs you have posted the confuseder I get. If I am reading y'all right the sail is mainly to keep you on course. Am I correct?
If so, that is why I am confused. I though it was to reduce side to side roll while wallowing across swells at near 90 degree. I think I might be missing the mark here - ?

Oh, Concordia, it was very very quick and especially dirty. A little spiling, a dutchmen or three, a skin over patch or two, and a BUNCH of two part Splash Zone. I had to get it off the hill. I'm gonna go back later and do it right a little at a time.

Thanks guys, y'all are mighty nice to put up with me on this.
Pelican (aka) Richard

[Pelican]

Let me reopen this for just a minute. Maybe I am not understanding what a steadying sail does. The more I read y'all's replies and the more I look at the pixs you have posted the confuseder I get. If I am reading y'all right the sail is mainly to keep you on course. Am I correct?
If so, that is why I am confused. I though it was to reduce side to side roll while wallowing across swells at near 90 degree. I think I might be missing the mark here - ?

Oh, Concordia, it was very very quick and especially dirty. A little spiling, a dutchmen or three, a skin over patch or two, and a BUNCH of two part Splash Zone. I had to get it off the hill. I'm gonna go back later and do it right a little at a time.

Thanks guys, y'all are mighty nice to put up with me on this.
Pelican (aka) Richard

[Pelican]

Let me reopen this for just a minute. Maybe I am not understanding what a steadying sail does. The more I read y'all's replies and the more I look at the pixs you have posted the confuseder I get. If I am reading y'all right the sail is mainly to keep you on course. Am I correct?
If so, that is why I am confused. I though it was to reduce side to side roll while wallowing across swells at near 90 degree. I think I might be missing the mark here - ?

Oh, Concordia, it was very very quick and especially dirty. A little spiling, a dutchmen or three, a skin over patch or two, and a BUNCH of two part Splash Zone. I had to get it off the hill. I'm gonna go back later and do it right a little at a time.

Thanks guys, y'all are mighty nice to put up with me on this.
Pelican (aka) Richard

[Mike Keers]

Pelican,
I'm currently building a 28 foot boat, and a steadying sail is shown on the plans, altho' no details are included.

I, like you have been seaking info on making and using one, and found little. As noted above, these sails are generally on the aft half of the boat, and sometimes way aft, almost at the stern on some lobster boats. What I have learned, is that the sails are more for use while anchored or working, to weathercock the boat and keep the bow into the wind.

According to a thread on the "Trawler World" discussion list, these sails provide little or no roll reduction underway. For roll reduction the trawler crowd uses flopper stoppers hung off outriggers.

Coming from a lifetime sailing background, I had assumed the sail would provide some roll damping as on a sailboat, but apparently the mechanics of a large mainsail and deep ballast are not the same as a shallower draft motor boat. I'm not talking about "motor sailers" here, but rather boats/ships such as yours, the one I'm building, and those posted above by Mr. Field. I also agree with all the comments above regarding the forward location of your mast (what a stick!)....I don't think that was for a steadying sail.

[Mike Keers]

Pelican,
I'm currently building a 28 foot boat, and a steadying sail is shown on the plans, altho' no details are included.

I, like you have been seaking info on making and using one, and found little. As noted above, these sails are generally on the aft half of the boat, and sometimes way aft, almost at the stern on some lobster boats. What I have learned, is that the sails are more for use while anchored or working, to weathercock the boat and keep the bow into the wind.

According to a thread on the "Trawler World" discussion list, these sails provide little or no roll reduction underway. For roll reduction the trawler crowd uses flopper stoppers hung off outriggers.

Coming from a lifetime sailing background, I had assumed the sail would provide some roll damping as on a sailboat, but apparently the mechanics of a large mainsail and deep ballast are not the same as a shallower draft motor boat. I'm not talking about "motor sailers" here, but rather boats/ships such as yours, the one I'm building, and those posted above by Mr. Field. I also agree with all the comments above regarding the forward location of your mast (what a stick!)....I don't think that was for a steadying sail.

[Mike Keers]

Pelican,
I'm currently building a 28 foot boat, and a steadying sail is shown on the plans, altho' no details are included.

I, like you have been seaking info on making and using one, and found little. As noted above, these sails are generally on the aft half of the boat, and sometimes way aft, almost at the stern on some lobster boats. What I have learned, is that the sails are more for use while anchored or working, to weathercock the boat and keep the bow into the wind.

According to a thread on the "Trawler World" discussion list, these sails provide little or no roll reduction underway. For roll reduction the trawler crowd uses flopper stoppers hung off outriggers.

Coming from a lifetime sailing background, I had assumed the sail would provide some roll damping as on a sailboat, but apparently the mechanics of a large mainsail and deep ballast are not the same as a shallower draft motor boat. I'm not talking about "motor sailers" here, but rather boats/ships such as yours, the one I'm building, and those posted above by Mr. Field. I also agree with all the comments above regarding the forward location of your mast (what a stick!)....I don't think that was for a steadying sail.

[Todd Bradshaw]

I would think that to be correct. On a sailboat, you essentially have "lateral plane" of both the keel in the water and the sail in the air resisting rolling - though in a lot of cases it's dampening effect on a non-moving or slow moving boat's rolling motion isn't all that great.

On a powerboat like those shown here the mass is concentrated in the hull and I would doubt that a small steadying sail would have any noticable roll-dampening effect at all. In this case, it would take a pretty big sail just to dampen the leverage induced by that heavy cargo mast sticking up above the center of gravity. The steadying sail must be more of a weathervane than a roll-stopper, in which case, if you're anchored it may be best to sheet it slightly off to one side. That way, rather than filling on starboard, then luffing, then filling on port, then luffing and repeating constantly, it tends to drive the boat off to one side and keep it there. If you're underway at low speed, I have no idea of how to trim it or what it will do.

For what it's worth, the little, sort of leg-o-mutton one on the stern of Mike's lower boat plan would probably be a pretty decent shape to build. You could attach it to it's mast with hoops, lacing or a track and lace it to the boom.

If I were going to build one, I'd probably use one of the cream-colored fabrics that look like cotton canvas, vertical-cut it with the panel seams parallel to the leech (back edge) and use panels 15"-18" wide, which look a lot more traditional than the 54" or 60" widths that modern fabric comes in. It's a bit more work, sewing more panel seams, but it makes a big difference in the appearance and it doesn't really add much time to the project.

You could even figure out the shape of the triangle and have Sailrite plot you a pre-cut kit out of birch-colored Top Gun if you didn't want to do the cutting. Just make sure they know it's a steadying sail so that the computer doesn't add draft to it.

Figure out some proportions that look like they fit the boat and start building spars. If you get stuck on the design particulars, e-mail me and I'll draw you a plan.

T.E.B.

[Todd Bradshaw]

I would think that to be correct. On a sailboat, you essentially have "lateral plane" of both the keel in the water and the sail in the air resisting rolling - though in a lot of cases it's dampening effect on a non-moving or slow moving boat's rolling motion isn't all that great.

On a powerboat like those shown here the mass is concentrated in the hull and I would doubt that a small steadying sail would have any noticable roll-dampening effect at all. In this case, it would take a pretty big sail just to dampen the leverage induced by that heavy cargo mast sticking up above the center of gravity. The steadying sail must be more of a weathervane than a roll-stopper, in which case, if you're anchored it may be best to sheet it slightly off to one side. That way, rather than filling on starboard, then luffing, then filling on port, then luffing and repeating constantly, it tends to drive the boat off to one side and keep it there. If you're underway at low speed, I have no idea of how to trim it or what it will do.

For what it's worth, the little, sort of leg-o-mutton one on the stern of Mike's lower boat plan would probably be a pretty decent shape to build. You could attach it to it's mast with hoops, lacing or a track and lace it to the boom.

If I were going to build one, I'd probably use one of the cream-colored fabrics that look like cotton canvas, vertical-cut it with the panel seams parallel to the leech (back edge) and use panels 15"-18" wide, which look a lot more traditional than the 54" or 60" widths that modern fabric comes in. It's a bit more work, sewing more panel seams, but it makes a big difference in the appearance and it doesn't really add much time to the project.

You could even figure out the shape of the triangle and have Sailrite plot you a pre-cut kit out of birch-colored Top Gun if you didn't want to do the cutting. Just make sure they know it's a steadying sail so that the computer doesn't add draft to it.

Figure out some proportions that look like they fit the boat and start building spars. If you get stuck on the design particulars, e-mail me and I'll draw you a plan.

T.E.B.

[Todd Bradshaw]

I would think that to be correct. On a sailboat, you essentially have "lateral plane" of both the keel in the water and the sail in the air resisting rolling - though in a lot of cases it's dampening effect on a non-moving or slow moving boat's rolling motion isn't all that great.

On a powerboat like those shown here the mass is concentrated in the hull and I would doubt that a small steadying sail would have any noticable roll-dampening effect at all. In this case, it would take a pretty big sail just to dampen the leverage induced by that heavy cargo mast sticking up above the center of gravity. The steadying sail must be more of a weathervane than a roll-stopper, in which case, if you're anchored it may be best to sheet it slightly off to one side. That way, rather than filling on starboard, then luffing, then filling on port, then luffing and repeating constantly, it tends to drive the boat off to one side and keep it there. If you're underway at low speed, I have no idea of how to trim it or what it will do.

For what it's worth, the little, sort of leg-o-mutton one on the stern of Mike's lower boat plan would probably be a pretty decent shape to build. You could attach it to it's mast with hoops, lacing or a track and lace it to the boom.

If I were going to build one, I'd probably use one of the cream-colored fabrics that look like cotton canvas, vertical-cut it with the panel seams parallel to the leech (back edge) and use panels 15"-18" wide, which look a lot more traditional than the 54" or 60" widths that modern fabric comes in. It's a bit more work, sewing more panel seams, but it makes a big difference in the appearance and it doesn't really add much time to the project.

You could even figure out the shape of the triangle and have Sailrite plot you a pre-cut kit out of birch-colored Top Gun if you didn't want to do the cutting. Just make sure they know it's a steadying sail so that the computer doesn't add draft to it.

Figure out some proportions that look like they fit the boat and start building spars. If you get stuck on the design particulars, e-mail me and I'll draw you a plan.

T.E.B.

[Ron Williamson]

Maleo's steadying sail doesn't do anything noticeable(maybe in a 30kn+ crosswind)but all of the associated rigging is handy for launching the dinghy,flying flags,mounting lights and drying laundry.
http://www.boatdesigns.com/cgi-bin/store/web_store.cgi?page=maleotug.html&&cart_id=7232055_4230
Have a look
R

[Ron Williamson]

Maleo's steadying sail doesn't do anything noticeable(maybe in a 30kn+ crosswind)but all of the associated rigging is handy for launching the dinghy,flying flags,mounting lights and drying laundry.
http://www.boatdesigns.com/cgi-bin/store/web_store.cgi?page=maleotug.html&&cart_id=7232055_4230
Have a look
R

[Ron Williamson]

Maleo's steadying sail doesn't do anything noticeable(maybe in a 30kn+ crosswind)but all of the associated rigging is handy for launching the dinghy,flying flags,mounting lights and drying laundry.
http://www.boatdesigns.com/cgi-bin/store/web_store.cgi?page=maleotug.html&&cart_id=7232055_4230
Have a look
R