View Full Version : Haven't I seen jamcleats like these in bronze?
Art Read
08-06-2004, 08:33 PM
Got these as a gift after bitching about tacking my little jib every two or three minutes while sailing on Lake Union. "Tuff-n-all" are they? I'm sure I've seen similar items in bronze from one or the other of the fancy retailers out there. Anybody got a link? I'd hate to drill for the bolts to mount these and then find the "perfect" bronze ones someplace else. After all, I've worked so hard to keep ALL the hardware and fittings all bronze, it seems a shame to cop out now...
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid133/p264fa968659b48c5acbdbff41eeb5314/f788c894.jpg
Art Read
08-06-2004, 08:33 PM
Got these as a gift after bitching about tacking my little jib every two or three minutes while sailing on Lake Union. "Tuff-n-all" are they? I'm sure I've seen similar items in bronze from one or the other of the fancy retailers out there. Anybody got a link? I'd hate to drill for the bolts to mount these and then find the "perfect" bronze ones someplace else. After all, I've worked so hard to keep ALL the hardware and fittings all bronze, it seems a shame to cop out now...
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid133/p264fa968659b48c5acbdbff41eeb5314/f788c894.jpg
Art Read
08-06-2004, 08:33 PM
Got these as a gift after bitching about tacking my little jib every two or three minutes while sailing on Lake Union. "Tuff-n-all" are they? I'm sure I've seen similar items in bronze from one or the other of the fancy retailers out there. Anybody got a link? I'd hate to drill for the bolts to mount these and then find the "perfect" bronze ones someplace else. After all, I've worked so hard to keep ALL the hardware and fittings all bronze, it seems a shame to cop out now...
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid133/p264fa968659b48c5acbdbff41eeb5314/f788c894.jpg
Nicholas Carey
08-07-2004, 12:02 AM
Hey, Art…
Bristol Bronze (http://www.bristolbronze.com/) makes them—to Mr. Nathaniel Herreshoff's specs (with the blessings of MIT).
http://www.bristolbronze.com/Catalog/pg003.pdf is the catalog page for cam cleats.
Nicholas Carey
08-07-2004, 12:02 AM
Hey, Art…
Bristol Bronze (http://www.bristolbronze.com/) makes them—to Mr. Nathaniel Herreshoff's specs (with the blessings of MIT).
http://www.bristolbronze.com/Catalog/pg003.pdf is the catalog page for cam cleats.
Nicholas Carey
08-07-2004, 12:02 AM
Hey, Art…
Bristol Bronze (http://www.bristolbronze.com/) makes them—to Mr. Nathaniel Herreshoff's specs (with the blessings of MIT).
http://www.bristolbronze.com/Catalog/pg003.pdf is the catalog page for cam cleats.
Art Read
08-07-2004, 04:33 AM
Thanks, Nicholas... $95 a pop, eh? Perhaps I should stop looking gift horses in the mouth! ;) Any other, more "pedestrian" sources folks?
Art Read
08-07-2004, 04:33 AM
Thanks, Nicholas... $95 a pop, eh? Perhaps I should stop looking gift horses in the mouth! ;) Any other, more "pedestrian" sources folks?
Art Read
08-07-2004, 04:33 AM
Thanks, Nicholas... $95 a pop, eh? Perhaps I should stop looking gift horses in the mouth! ;) Any other, more "pedestrian" sources folks?
I like the look of Tufnol.I think it complements bronze (and wood).
As a material it would be contemporary with the popular use of cam cleats.
[ 08-08-2004, 09:47 AM: Message edited by: Hwyl ]
I like the look of Tufnol.I think it complements bronze (and wood).
As a material it would be contemporary with the popular use of cam cleats.
[ 08-08-2004, 09:47 AM: Message edited by: Hwyl ]
I like the look of Tufnol.I think it complements bronze (and wood).
As a material it would be contemporary with the popular use of cam cleats.
[ 08-08-2004, 09:47 AM: Message edited by: Hwyl ]
Bruce Hooke
08-08-2004, 10:08 AM
How hard would it be to replace the metal on the jam cleats you have with bronze? That might help them blend in better with the rest of your fittings.
Bruce Hooke
08-08-2004, 10:08 AM
How hard would it be to replace the metal on the jam cleats you have with bronze? That might help them blend in better with the rest of your fittings.
Bruce Hooke
08-08-2004, 10:08 AM
How hard would it be to replace the metal on the jam cleats you have with bronze? That might help them blend in better with the rest of your fittings.
Ian McColgin
08-08-2004, 07:21 PM
I've used this type for years. It does not hold the modern synthetics very well but is ok for 'traditional' dacron whether cable laid or braid.
The verticle cam face makes it harder to release under load than the more modern Harken model where the toothed face is nicely radiused at the top. I'm sure I've seen that nicer pattern in bronze but did not notice it in a quick glace at Bristol.
G'luck
Ian McColgin
08-08-2004, 07:21 PM
I've used this type for years. It does not hold the modern synthetics very well but is ok for 'traditional' dacron whether cable laid or braid.
The verticle cam face makes it harder to release under load than the more modern Harken model where the toothed face is nicely radiused at the top. I'm sure I've seen that nicer pattern in bronze but did not notice it in a quick glace at Bristol.
G'luck
Ian McColgin
08-08-2004, 07:21 PM
I've used this type for years. It does not hold the modern synthetics very well but is ok for 'traditional' dacron whether cable laid or braid.
The verticle cam face makes it harder to release under load than the more modern Harken model where the toothed face is nicely radiused at the top. I'm sure I've seen that nicer pattern in bronze but did not notice it in a quick glace at Bristol.
G'luck
Jack Heinlen
08-09-2004, 12:25 AM
I've always called them 'camcleats', a jam cleat being a non-mechanical cleat with a wedging horn.
The rounded tops on some of them would seem to facilitate jaming, as much as un-jaming--or un-caming? smile.gif A good upward tug, with that fairlead to hold matters, always seems to work pretty well on the straight types.
Jack Heinlen
08-09-2004, 12:25 AM
I've always called them 'camcleats', a jam cleat being a non-mechanical cleat with a wedging horn.
The rounded tops on some of them would seem to facilitate jaming, as much as un-jaming--or un-caming? smile.gif A good upward tug, with that fairlead to hold matters, always seems to work pretty well on the straight types.
Jack Heinlen
08-09-2004, 12:25 AM
I've always called them 'camcleats', a jam cleat being a non-mechanical cleat with a wedging horn.
The rounded tops on some of them would seem to facilitate jaming, as much as un-jaming--or un-caming? smile.gif A good upward tug, with that fairlead to hold matters, always seems to work pretty well on the straight types.
Stiletto
08-09-2004, 04:20 AM
If you mounted them on varnished wooden bases it wouldnt be too hard to change the fitting if you got some bronze ones at the right price.
Just a thought.
I too call them cam cleats.
Stiletto
08-09-2004, 04:20 AM
If you mounted them on varnished wooden bases it wouldnt be too hard to change the fitting if you got some bronze ones at the right price.
Just a thought.
I too call them cam cleats.
Stiletto
08-09-2004, 04:20 AM
If you mounted them on varnished wooden bases it wouldnt be too hard to change the fitting if you got some bronze ones at the right price.
Just a thought.
I too call them cam cleats.
MAGIC's Craig
08-12-2004, 07:05 PM
Art: A couple of thoughts: Have you checked the Woodenboat Foundation's store in P.T.? Usually, they carry both Davey stock from the U.K. as well as Pete Langley's locally-produced castings (Port Townsend Foundry)...ermm, as to cost, I'm clueless :rolleyes:
MAGIC's Craig
08-12-2004, 07:05 PM
Art: A couple of thoughts: Have you checked the Woodenboat Foundation's store in P.T.? Usually, they carry both Davey stock from the U.K. as well as Pete Langley's locally-produced castings (Port Townsend Foundry)...ermm, as to cost, I'm clueless :rolleyes:
MAGIC's Craig
08-12-2004, 07:05 PM
Art: A couple of thoughts: Have you checked the Woodenboat Foundation's store in P.T.? Usually, they carry both Davey stock from the U.K. as well as Pete Langley's locally-produced castings (Port Townsend Foundry)...ermm, as to cost, I'm clueless :rolleyes:
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