outboard for penobscot 17

[David Gilroy]

I'm soon to be the proud owner of a Penobscot 17, built by the Riverwrights Boatshop in Hartford,CT. They do a lot of good work with kids who have had some trouble. I'd like to know if anyone has had experience with putting an outboard on one. (That is the boat, not any of the kids.) I'm thinking about a Honda 2HP, which is nice and light, but am hesitating about whether that will be enough power.

[David Gilroy]

I'm soon to be the proud owner of a Penobscot 17, built by the Riverwrights Boatshop in Hartford,CT. They do a lot of good work with kids who have had some trouble. I'd like to know if anyone has had experience with putting an outboard on one. (That is the boat, not any of the kids.) I'm thinking about a Honda 2HP, which is nice and light, but am hesitating about whether that will be enough power.

[David Gilroy]

I'm soon to be the proud owner of a Penobscot 17, built by the Riverwrights Boatshop in Hartford,CT. They do a lot of good work with kids who have had some trouble. I'd like to know if anyone has had experience with putting an outboard on one. (That is the boat, not any of the kids.) I'm thinking about a Honda 2HP, which is nice and light, but am hesitating about whether that will be enough power.

[rbgarr]

It will be fine unless you're in a real hurry.

[rbgarr]

It will be fine unless you're in a real hurry.

[rbgarr]

It will be fine unless you're in a real hurry.

[Buddy]

Got one on my 1300 pound 15' x 7' MarshCat and she'll do 4.75 on the GPS. That's theoritical hullspeed for a displacement hull with a 14 foot waterline length, so I am PLEASED. One great, trouble free motor. I would recommend against buying the model with the centifugal clutch. Might be good for trolling on a light flat bottom fishing skiff, but very unhandy for a displacement boat needing on a partial throttle most of the time. At those partial throttle settings working againstvariable breeze or chop, the motor can be mushy and apply power capriciouslyalternating between the slipping of the drum clutch and a positive lockup with tha driveshaft.

[Buddy]

Got one on my 1300 pound 15' x 7' MarshCat and she'll do 4.75 on the GPS. That's theoritical hullspeed for a displacement hull with a 14 foot waterline length, so I am PLEASED. One great, trouble free motor. I would recommend against buying the model with the centifugal clutch. Might be good for trolling on a light flat bottom fishing skiff, but very unhandy for a displacement boat needing on a partial throttle most of the time. At those partial throttle settings working againstvariable breeze or chop, the motor can be mushy and apply power capriciouslyalternating between the slipping of the drum clutch and a positive lockup with tha driveshaft.

[Buddy]

Got one on my 1300 pound 15' x 7' MarshCat and she'll do 4.75 on the GPS. That's theoritical hullspeed for a displacement hull with a 14 foot waterline length, so I am PLEASED. One great, trouble free motor. I would recommend against buying the model with the centifugal clutch. Might be good for trolling on a light flat bottom fishing skiff, but very unhandy for a displacement boat needing on a partial throttle most of the time. At those partial throttle settings working againstvariable breeze or chop, the motor can be mushy and apply power capriciouslyalternating between the slipping of the drum clutch and a positive lockup with tha driveshaft.

[Captain Pre-Capsize]

Call Arch Davis - go to the source.

[Captain Pre-Capsize]

Call Arch Davis - go to the source.

[Captain Pre-Capsize]

Call Arch Davis - go to the source.

[Venchka]

Call Arch Davis for sure. Make sure the transom is sturdy enough. Also, ask Arch if you need a regular or long shaft outboard.

Read this:

Small Outboards (http://media5.hypernet.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=4;t=002228)

For sure, the 2hp Honda will push the Penobscot 17. Way nice boat, too.

[Venchka]

Call Arch Davis for sure. Make sure the transom is sturdy enough. Also, ask Arch if you need a regular or long shaft outboard.

Read this:

Small Outboards (http://media5.hypernet.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=4;t=002228)

For sure, the 2hp Honda will push the Penobscot 17. Way nice boat, too.

[Venchka]

Call Arch Davis for sure. Make sure the transom is sturdy enough. Also, ask Arch if you need a regular or long shaft outboard.

Read this:

Small Outboards (http://media5.hypernet.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=4;t=002228)

For sure, the 2hp Honda will push the Penobscot 17. Way nice boat, too.

[David Gilroy]

Thank you for your responses. I'm going with the Honda. I hope to be out on Long Island Sound this summer. :D

[David Gilroy]

Thank you for your responses. I'm going with the Honda. I hope to be out on Long Island Sound this summer. :D

[David Gilroy]

Thank you for your responses. I'm going with the Honda. I hope to be out on Long Island Sound this summer. :D

[Jason Miller]

David,

I have a 17 foot cedar strip canoe, I over built it considerably making it pretty heavy. I purchased a Cruise and carry 2.0. I think they make a 1.5 as well. Its super light, has a neutral, and fairly quiet and cost under $300.00 new. Here is a 1.5 on ebay
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=50439&item=2461296337

This motor pushes my heavy canoe along as fast as I need it to. The only time it lacks is when its pretty windy. I have outperformed my fathers canoe with his johnson 3 which hasnt a neutral.

[Jason Miller]

David,

I have a 17 foot cedar strip canoe, I over built it considerably making it pretty heavy. I purchased a Cruise and carry 2.0. I think they make a 1.5 as well. Its super light, has a neutral, and fairly quiet and cost under $300.00 new. Here is a 1.5 on ebay
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=50439&item=2461296337

This motor pushes my heavy canoe along as fast as I need it to. The only time it lacks is when its pretty windy. I have outperformed my fathers canoe with his johnson 3 which hasnt a neutral.

[Jason Miller]

David,

I have a 17 foot cedar strip canoe, I over built it considerably making it pretty heavy. I purchased a Cruise and carry 2.0. I think they make a 1.5 as well. Its super light, has a neutral, and fairly quiet and cost under $300.00 new. Here is a 1.5 on ebay
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=50439&item=2461296337

This motor pushes my heavy canoe along as fast as I need it to. The only time it lacks is when its pretty windy. I have outperformed my fathers canoe with his johnson 3 which hasnt a neutral.

[Venchka]

Correct me if I'm wrong:

1. The motors are no longer made?

2. Service is questionable at best?

3. Warranty?

4. 2-stroke?

5. The exhaust pipe is a burn hazard?

Compare that to a Honda with a 3 year warranty.

You do bring up an interesting point: A used, name brand, water cooled 2-stroke in the $200-$400 dollar range could be a viable alternative.

I am still wondering about the transom and an outboard. I got a quote from a professional builder for a P-17. When I asked about an outboard he wasn't enthusiastic. Maybe that was just his nature. You ought to ask Arch Davis directly about it. Hopefully you already have and can let the Forum know.

[Venchka]

Correct me if I'm wrong:

1. The motors are no longer made?

2. Service is questionable at best?

3. Warranty?

4. 2-stroke?

5. The exhaust pipe is a burn hazard?

Compare that to a Honda with a 3 year warranty.

You do bring up an interesting point: A used, name brand, water cooled 2-stroke in the $200-$400 dollar range could be a viable alternative.

I am still wondering about the transom and an outboard. I got a quote from a professional builder for a P-17. When I asked about an outboard he wasn't enthusiastic. Maybe that was just his nature. You ought to ask Arch Davis directly about it. Hopefully you already have and can let the Forum know.

[Venchka]

Correct me if I'm wrong:

1. The motors are no longer made?

2. Service is questionable at best?

3. Warranty?

4. 2-stroke?

5. The exhaust pipe is a burn hazard?

Compare that to a Honda with a 3 year warranty.

You do bring up an interesting point: A used, name brand, water cooled 2-stroke in the $200-$400 dollar range could be a viable alternative.

I am still wondering about the transom and an outboard. I got a quote from a professional builder for a P-17. When I asked about an outboard he wasn't enthusiastic. Maybe that was just his nature. You ought to ask Arch Davis directly about it. Hopefully you already have and can let the Forum know.

[David Gilroy]

I talked with Arch Davis before I posed the question to the forum. The transom is built to take an outboard with no problem. There are directions for a cut-out to take a short shaft, or you can put a long shaft on the transom as-is, or you can put a short shaft on a bracket(which is what I'm going to do). Arch doesn't consider himself expert on outboard power, and simply suggested it be no more than 5 horse.

[David Gilroy]

I talked with Arch Davis before I posed the question to the forum. The transom is built to take an outboard with no problem. There are directions for a cut-out to take a short shaft, or you can put a long shaft on the transom as-is, or you can put a short shaft on a bracket(which is what I'm going to do). Arch doesn't consider himself expert on outboard power, and simply suggested it be no more than 5 horse.

[David Gilroy]

I talked with Arch Davis before I posed the question to the forum. The transom is built to take an outboard with no problem. There are directions for a cut-out to take a short shaft, or you can put a long shaft on the transom as-is, or you can put a short shaft on a bracket(which is what I'm going to do). Arch doesn't consider himself expert on outboard power, and simply suggested it be no more than 5 horse.

[Buddy]

I've mentioned in another thread I had a Sears Gamefisher 1.75 9 made by and available as a Tanaka) which was 2 stroke, aircooled, expsed exhaust pipe and had a friction drum clutch. After the decals were taken off, it was a plain black "seagull" old time looking affair which suited the look of my Cape Dory 14 gunter rig sailboat. It only weighed 19 pounds and had plenty of umpphh for that narrow slippery boat. It was noisy and high pitched, and even when run dry, after winter or many months of disuse, you could figure on taking off the carburetor bowl ( conevnt ti get to) and using a shot of Gumout to free the flost valve. Once or twice I had to reglue the leather tips on the friction clutch fingers ( a 45 minute deal) When the nipple on the intergal gas tank broke during a hose replacement, Seras had the part, some 12 years later, for $16. Occasionally I wire brushed flaking paint and rebrushed on black enamel to keep it looking good I paid$169 for it in 1984, and sold it as a going propositon with the boat in 2003. So now, some twenty years on, was it a good investment- hell yes. I think the Tanaka are better built( designed really) than the Cruise in Carry ones I have seen, but thay are very similar. The Tanaka came in a 3 horse as well.
But- the Honda is such a jewel- now I'd find a used one or the money to get another. I just wouldn't happy with less now I have been SPOILED.

[Buddy]

I've mentioned in another thread I had a Sears Gamefisher 1.75 9 made by and available as a Tanaka) which was 2 stroke, aircooled, expsed exhaust pipe and had a friction drum clutch. After the decals were taken off, it was a plain black "seagull" old time looking affair which suited the look of my Cape Dory 14 gunter rig sailboat. It only weighed 19 pounds and had plenty of umpphh for that narrow slippery boat. It was noisy and high pitched, and even when run dry, after winter or many months of disuse, you could figure on taking off the carburetor bowl ( conevnt ti get to) and using a shot of Gumout to free the flost valve. Once or twice I had to reglue the leather tips on the friction clutch fingers ( a 45 minute deal) When the nipple on the intergal gas tank broke during a hose replacement, Seras had the part, some 12 years later, for $16. Occasionally I wire brushed flaking paint and rebrushed on black enamel to keep it looking good I paid$169 for it in 1984, and sold it as a going propositon with the boat in 2003. So now, some twenty years on, was it a good investment- hell yes. I think the Tanaka are better built( designed really) than the Cruise in Carry ones I have seen, but thay are very similar. The Tanaka came in a 3 horse as well.
But- the Honda is such a jewel- now I'd find a used one or the money to get another. I just wouldn't happy with less now I have been SPOILED.

[Buddy]

I've mentioned in another thread I had a Sears Gamefisher 1.75 9 made by and available as a Tanaka) which was 2 stroke, aircooled, expsed exhaust pipe and had a friction drum clutch. After the decals were taken off, it was a plain black "seagull" old time looking affair which suited the look of my Cape Dory 14 gunter rig sailboat. It only weighed 19 pounds and had plenty of umpphh for that narrow slippery boat. It was noisy and high pitched, and even when run dry, after winter or many months of disuse, you could figure on taking off the carburetor bowl ( conevnt ti get to) and using a shot of Gumout to free the flost valve. Once or twice I had to reglue the leather tips on the friction clutch fingers ( a 45 minute deal) When the nipple on the intergal gas tank broke during a hose replacement, Seras had the part, some 12 years later, for $16. Occasionally I wire brushed flaking paint and rebrushed on black enamel to keep it looking good I paid$169 for it in 1984, and sold it as a going propositon with the boat in 2003. So now, some twenty years on, was it a good investment- hell yes. I think the Tanaka are better built( designed really) than the Cruise in Carry ones I have seen, but thay are very similar. The Tanaka came in a 3 horse as well.
But- the Honda is such a jewel- now I'd find a used one or the money to get another. I just wouldn't happy with less now I have been SPOILED.

[Venchka]

Originally posted by David Gilroy:
I talked with Arch Davis before I posed the question to the forum. The transom is built to take an outboard with no problem.

Thanks! Got it straight from the horses mouth. Always the best way. Now we all know for sure. The little Honda is the only one that is available in the US with a long shaft. GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR. You have to go to Europe to the get the Yamaha in a 20" shaft.

[Venchka]

Originally posted by David Gilroy:
I talked with Arch Davis before I posed the question to the forum. The transom is built to take an outboard with no problem.

Thanks! Got it straight from the horses mouth. Always the best way. Now we all know for sure. The little Honda is the only one that is available in the US with a long shaft. GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR. You have to go to Europe to the get the Yamaha in a 20" shaft.

[Venchka]

Originally posted by David Gilroy:
I talked with Arch Davis before I posed the question to the forum. The transom is built to take an outboard with no problem.

Thanks! Got it straight from the horses mouth. Always the best way. Now we all know for sure. The little Honda is the only one that is available in the US with a long shaft. GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR. You have to go to Europe to the get the Yamaha in a 20" shaft.

[rbgarr]

Don't overbid!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2463001951&category=50439

[rbgarr]

Don't overbid!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2463001951&category=50439

[rbgarr]

Don't overbid!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2463001951&category=50439