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Hughman
07-15-2005, 06:48 PM
I need to make or buy a device to hold large irregular woodcarvings.
It should be able to take a pounding, and be cheap. The ability to re-position the work frequently and securely is what I'm after.
Anybody invented this yet?
Hughman
07-15-2005, 06:48 PM
I need to make or buy a device to hold large irregular woodcarvings.
It should be able to take a pounding, and be cheap. The ability to re-position the work frequently and securely is what I'm after.
Anybody invented this yet?
Hughman
07-15-2005, 06:48 PM
I need to make or buy a device to hold large irregular woodcarvings.
It should be able to take a pounding, and be cheap. The ability to re-position the work frequently and securely is what I'm after.
Anybody invented this yet?
P.I. Stazzer-Newt
07-15-2005, 07:06 PM
How big?
Smalle r stuff (http://www.axminster.co.uk/product.asp?pricing=INC&pf_id=362789&recno=2&cid=TSUQ6K5ID22JY452JKZTG2JWUWSJEPVC)
Bigger stuff (http://www.axminster.co.uk/product.asp?pf_id=21294&recno=6&cid=TSUQ6K5ID22JY452JKZTG2JWUWSJEPVC)
I have also seen a "carving horse" but I can't find a picture of one.
[ 07-15-2005, 07:07 PM: Message edited by: P.I. Stazzer-Newt ]
P.I. Stazzer-Newt
07-15-2005, 07:06 PM
How big?
Smalle r stuff (http://www.axminster.co.uk/product.asp?pricing=INC&pf_id=362789&recno=2&cid=TSUQ6K5ID22JY452JKZTG2JWUWSJEPVC)
Bigger stuff (http://www.axminster.co.uk/product.asp?pf_id=21294&recno=6&cid=TSUQ6K5ID22JY452JKZTG2JWUWSJEPVC)
I have also seen a "carving horse" but I can't find a picture of one.
[ 07-15-2005, 07:07 PM: Message edited by: P.I. Stazzer-Newt ]
P.I. Stazzer-Newt
07-15-2005, 07:06 PM
How big?
Smalle r stuff (http://www.axminster.co.uk/product.asp?pricing=INC&pf_id=362789&recno=2&cid=TSUQ6K5ID22JY452JKZTG2JWUWSJEPVC)
Bigger stuff (http://www.axminster.co.uk/product.asp?pf_id=21294&recno=6&cid=TSUQ6K5ID22JY452JKZTG2JWUWSJEPVC)
I have also seen a "carving horse" but I can't find a picture of one.
[ 07-15-2005, 07:07 PM: Message edited by: P.I. Stazzer-Newt ]
Paul Scheuer
07-15-2005, 08:04 PM
- large irregular woodcarvings -
I'm guessin' figureheads - Am I close ?
Most of my big carvings have had a fairly large hole that was the home for a large lag screw. The screw either went through the bench top, or a block that could be clamped in the vise. If the hole eventually ended up being the mounting hole for a base or whatever, so much the better.
I always started with the screw, even though I probably didn't need it, to avoid vise damage, untill I got to the near final shaping. I got a better feel for the work.
On some smaller pieces, I tried to leave enough wood for the clamp, and then slice it off at the end. It never worked out well. I always found that I needed to clamp the work at some impossible angle.
You'll be posting pictures, right ?
Paul Scheuer
07-15-2005, 08:04 PM
- large irregular woodcarvings -
I'm guessin' figureheads - Am I close ?
Most of my big carvings have had a fairly large hole that was the home for a large lag screw. The screw either went through the bench top, or a block that could be clamped in the vise. If the hole eventually ended up being the mounting hole for a base or whatever, so much the better.
I always started with the screw, even though I probably didn't need it, to avoid vise damage, untill I got to the near final shaping. I got a better feel for the work.
On some smaller pieces, I tried to leave enough wood for the clamp, and then slice it off at the end. It never worked out well. I always found that I needed to clamp the work at some impossible angle.
You'll be posting pictures, right ?
Paul Scheuer
07-15-2005, 08:04 PM
- large irregular woodcarvings -
I'm guessin' figureheads - Am I close ?
Most of my big carvings have had a fairly large hole that was the home for a large lag screw. The screw either went through the bench top, or a block that could be clamped in the vise. If the hole eventually ended up being the mounting hole for a base or whatever, so much the better.
I always started with the screw, even though I probably didn't need it, to avoid vise damage, untill I got to the near final shaping. I got a better feel for the work.
On some smaller pieces, I tried to leave enough wood for the clamp, and then slice it off at the end. It never worked out well. I always found that I needed to clamp the work at some impossible angle.
You'll be posting pictures, right ?
outofthenorm
07-15-2005, 08:05 PM
Not exactly cheap, but very nice tools, and a bit closer to home.
Small (http://www.leevalley.com/wood/page.aspx?c=2&p=31172&cat=1,41659,41667)
big stuff (http://www.leevalley.com/wood/page.aspx?c=2&p=31153&cat=1,41637)
outofthenorm
07-15-2005, 08:05 PM
Not exactly cheap, but very nice tools, and a bit closer to home.
Small (http://www.leevalley.com/wood/page.aspx?c=2&p=31172&cat=1,41659,41667)
big stuff (http://www.leevalley.com/wood/page.aspx?c=2&p=31153&cat=1,41637)
outofthenorm
07-15-2005, 08:05 PM
Not exactly cheap, but very nice tools, and a bit closer to home.
Small (http://www.leevalley.com/wood/page.aspx?c=2&p=31172&cat=1,41659,41667)
big stuff (http://www.leevalley.com/wood/page.aspx?c=2&p=31153&cat=1,41637)
Hughman
07-15-2005, 09:11 PM
Whoa, those articulated vise/benches are nice.
Spendy, tho.
Maybe I can build something thud-simple that would duplicate the function.
Hughman
07-15-2005, 09:11 PM
Whoa, those articulated vise/benches are nice.
Spendy, tho.
Maybe I can build something thud-simple that would duplicate the function.
Hughman
07-15-2005, 09:11 PM
Whoa, those articulated vise/benches are nice.
Spendy, tho.
Maybe I can build something thud-simple that would duplicate the function.
Mrleft8
07-16-2005, 09:02 AM
What yer looking for is an Emmert pattern makers vise. Tres $$$! You can occasionaly find them at tag sales for a song....If you go out early. I believe that Veritas makes a Emmert copy for a reasonable price, but I've never actually seen one in person, so I can't tell you how good they are.
Mrleft8
07-16-2005, 09:02 AM
What yer looking for is an Emmert pattern makers vise. Tres $$$! You can occasionaly find them at tag sales for a song....If you go out early. I believe that Veritas makes a Emmert copy for a reasonable price, but I've never actually seen one in person, so I can't tell you how good they are.
Mrleft8
07-16-2005, 09:02 AM
What yer looking for is an Emmert pattern makers vise. Tres $$$! You can occasionaly find them at tag sales for a song....If you go out early. I believe that Veritas makes a Emmert copy for a reasonable price, but I've never actually seen one in person, so I can't tell you how good they are.
DrakeChristensen
07-16-2005, 09:50 AM
Seems like there was a recent thread where Mr. Smalser was talking about a less expensive Emmert clone that he bought and put to good use. I'll see if I can find it. Couldn't go wrong following his lead...
DrakeChristensen
07-16-2005, 09:50 AM
Seems like there was a recent thread where Mr. Smalser was talking about a less expensive Emmert clone that he bought and put to good use. I'll see if I can find it. Couldn't go wrong following his lead...
DrakeChristensen
07-16-2005, 09:50 AM
Seems like there was a recent thread where Mr. Smalser was talking about a less expensive Emmert clone that he bought and put to good use. I'll see if I can find it. Couldn't go wrong following his lead...
kc8pql
07-16-2005, 10:02 AM
I once rigged up a carvers vice using a pipe flange, a 6" pipe nipple and a cheap machinist vice (the type that both swivels and rotates. Screw the flange onto the bottom of the work, screw the nipple into the flange and clamp the pipe in the vice. The vice I used had pipe jaws below the normal ones. Use the vice movement to position the work. The rig worked ok for a one off and, because I already had the vice, only cost a few bucks.
[ 07-16-2005, 10:07 AM: Message edited by: kc8pql ]
kc8pql
07-16-2005, 10:02 AM
I once rigged up a carvers vice using a pipe flange, a 6" pipe nipple and a cheap machinist vice (the type that both swivels and rotates. Screw the flange onto the bottom of the work, screw the nipple into the flange and clamp the pipe in the vice. The vice I used had pipe jaws below the normal ones. Use the vice movement to position the work. The rig worked ok for a one off and, because I already had the vice, only cost a few bucks.
[ 07-16-2005, 10:07 AM: Message edited by: kc8pql ]
kc8pql
07-16-2005, 10:02 AM
I once rigged up a carvers vice using a pipe flange, a 6" pipe nipple and a cheap machinist vice (the type that both swivels and rotates. Screw the flange onto the bottom of the work, screw the nipple into the flange and clamp the pipe in the vice. The vice I used had pipe jaws below the normal ones. Use the vice movement to position the work. The rig worked ok for a one off and, because I already had the vice, only cost a few bucks.
[ 07-16-2005, 10:07 AM: Message edited by: kc8pql ]
DavidF
07-16-2005, 10:42 AM
I regularly do large irregularly shaped carvings that don't have any base to use as an attachment. What has worked for me is to put a rubber mat on my workbench to reduce slippage. Then I secure the block of wood with two of those truck tie-downs that use webbing and tightening cranks wrapped around the wood and bench. No damage to the wood. Easily repositioned. Found the stuff in my garage.
DavidF
07-16-2005, 10:42 AM
I regularly do large irregularly shaped carvings that don't have any base to use as an attachment. What has worked for me is to put a rubber mat on my workbench to reduce slippage. Then I secure the block of wood with two of those truck tie-downs that use webbing and tightening cranks wrapped around the wood and bench. No damage to the wood. Easily repositioned. Found the stuff in my garage.
DavidF
07-16-2005, 10:42 AM
I regularly do large irregularly shaped carvings that don't have any base to use as an attachment. What has worked for me is to put a rubber mat on my workbench to reduce slippage. Then I secure the block of wood with two of those truck tie-downs that use webbing and tightening cranks wrapped around the wood and bench. No damage to the wood. Easily repositioned. Found the stuff in my garage.
Paul Scheuer
07-16-2005, 11:47 AM
Large is a relative term. This one was large to me. The mounting board is about 18 inches long and the figure stands out about 4 inches. The lag screw hole is in the neck where the diagonal flat meets the board. While being carved there was a 2x6 attached that I could position in my big vise.
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid91/pc5b8f693eaa2228389bcacc8e5cf4369/fa6c968e.jpg
Paul Scheuer
07-16-2005, 11:47 AM
Large is a relative term. This one was large to me. The mounting board is about 18 inches long and the figure stands out about 4 inches. The lag screw hole is in the neck where the diagonal flat meets the board. While being carved there was a 2x6 attached that I could position in my big vise.
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid91/pc5b8f693eaa2228389bcacc8e5cf4369/fa6c968e.jpg
Paul Scheuer
07-16-2005, 11:47 AM
Large is a relative term. This one was large to me. The mounting board is about 18 inches long and the figure stands out about 4 inches. The lag screw hole is in the neck where the diagonal flat meets the board. While being carved there was a 2x6 attached that I could position in my big vise.
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid91/pc5b8f693eaa2228389bcacc8e5cf4369/fa6c968e.jpg
Bob Cleek
07-16-2005, 02:19 PM
http://www.createc.ch/shop/images/produkte/931jpeg
Nothing better than a Zyliss vise. It will cost you $350, but it will do just about anything. These were designed by the Swiss army for field use. They can be set up in any number of configurations, clamp to any surface, and can hold just about anything smaller than what you clamp the vise onto. Very well made. Not what you'd use everyday for hammering on, but nothing better for holding irregular shaped stuff.
Bob Cleek
07-16-2005, 02:19 PM
http://www.createc.ch/shop/images/produkte/931jpeg
Nothing better than a Zyliss vise. It will cost you $350, but it will do just about anything. These were designed by the Swiss army for field use. They can be set up in any number of configurations, clamp to any surface, and can hold just about anything smaller than what you clamp the vise onto. Very well made. Not what you'd use everyday for hammering on, but nothing better for holding irregular shaped stuff.
Bob Cleek
07-16-2005, 02:19 PM
http://www.createc.ch/shop/images/produkte/931jpeg
Nothing better than a Zyliss vise. It will cost you $350, but it will do just about anything. These were designed by the Swiss army for field use. They can be set up in any number of configurations, clamp to any surface, and can hold just about anything smaller than what you clamp the vise onto. Very well made. Not what you'd use everyday for hammering on, but nothing better for holding irregular shaped stuff.
Hughman
07-16-2005, 04:52 PM
Paul has it right. Six foot figurehead.
I'm begining to think that DavidF's suggestion of truck tie downs might work.
I'd have to rig a vertical 8x8 to tie to, rather than a bench. Hmmmm. This problem will need more beer.
Hughman
07-16-2005, 04:52 PM
Paul has it right. Six foot figurehead.
I'm begining to think that DavidF's suggestion of truck tie downs might work.
I'd have to rig a vertical 8x8 to tie to, rather than a bench. Hmmmm. This problem will need more beer.
Hughman
07-16-2005, 04:52 PM
Paul has it right. Six foot figurehead.
I'm begining to think that DavidF's suggestion of truck tie downs might work.
I'd have to rig a vertical 8x8 to tie to, rather than a bench. Hmmmm. This problem will need more beer.
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