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AngWood
02-08-2002, 11:22 AM
Does anyone know a good supplier of cane (or nylon web) seats? I have located some that are designed for canoes, but they are not wide enough to span a pram with a four-foot beam. I'm trying to keep the weight of the boat as low as possible.
AngWood
02-08-2002, 11:22 AM
Does anyone know a good supplier of cane (or nylon web) seats? I have located some that are designed for canoes, but they are not wide enough to span a pram with a four-foot beam. I'm trying to keep the weight of the boat as low as possible.
AngWood
02-08-2002, 11:22 AM
Does anyone know a good supplier of cane (or nylon web) seats? I have located some that are designed for canoes, but they are not wide enough to span a pram with a four-foot beam. I'm trying to keep the weight of the boat as low as possible.
Tom Dugan
02-08-2002, 01:03 PM
I suspect that even if you found one wide enough, it wouldn't have the look you really want. This is one of those jobs that will really only be done right if you DIY. It's not difficult or physically demanding. It just calls for time and patience, but the results can be spectacular. I see books on caning in every bookstore when I hit the Crafts section.(Caveat: This opinion comes from watching my father do the work on my grandmother's rocker, not firsthand experience http://media5.hypernet.com/~dick/ubb/smile.gif )
-T
Tom Dugan
02-08-2002, 01:03 PM
I suspect that even if you found one wide enough, it wouldn't have the look you really want. This is one of those jobs that will really only be done right if you DIY. It's not difficult or physically demanding. It just calls for time and patience, but the results can be spectacular. I see books on caning in every bookstore when I hit the Crafts section.(Caveat: This opinion comes from watching my father do the work on my grandmother's rocker, not firsthand experience http://media5.hypernet.com/~dick/ubb/smile.gif )
-T
Tom Dugan
02-08-2002, 01:03 PM
I suspect that even if you found one wide enough, it wouldn't have the look you really want. This is one of those jobs that will really only be done right if you DIY. It's not difficult or physically demanding. It just calls for time and patience, but the results can be spectacular. I see books on caning in every bookstore when I hit the Crafts section.(Caveat: This opinion comes from watching my father do the work on my grandmother's rocker, not firsthand experience http://media5.hypernet.com/~dick/ubb/smile.gif )
-T
Keith Wilson
02-08-2002, 02:30 PM
You might try Shaw & Tenney at http://www.shawandtenney.com/ They could certainly make you some if they don't stock them. Not at all cheap, though, but they do nice work. If it were me, I'd make my own, though. Ash is the traditional wood for canoe seats and thwarts.
Keith Wilson
02-08-2002, 02:30 PM
You might try Shaw & Tenney at http://www.shawandtenney.com/ They could certainly make you some if they don't stock them. Not at all cheap, though, but they do nice work. If it were me, I'd make my own, though. Ash is the traditional wood for canoe seats and thwarts.
Keith Wilson
02-08-2002, 02:30 PM
You might try Shaw & Tenney at http://www.shawandtenney.com/ They could certainly make you some if they don't stock them. Not at all cheap, though, but they do nice work. If it were me, I'd make my own, though. Ash is the traditional wood for canoe seats and thwarts.
rbgarr
02-08-2002, 05:21 PM
If you make and predrill your own 'thwart frames', an upholsterer that does caning could give you a quote for the canework (usually by the hole). Not cheap! 25 cents per hole the last time we had a family heirloom rocker recaned for my in-laws as an anniversary present.
And don't ever stand on the canework!
rbgarr
02-08-2002, 05:21 PM
If you make and predrill your own 'thwart frames', an upholsterer that does caning could give you a quote for the canework (usually by the hole). Not cheap! 25 cents per hole the last time we had a family heirloom rocker recaned for my in-laws as an anniversary present.
And don't ever stand on the canework!
rbgarr
02-08-2002, 05:21 PM
If you make and predrill your own 'thwart frames', an upholsterer that does caning could give you a quote for the canework (usually by the hole). Not cheap! 25 cents per hole the last time we had a family heirloom rocker recaned for my in-laws as an anniversary present.
And don't ever stand on the canework!
Charlie J
02-08-2002, 05:44 PM
RB that caning job must have been very long ago. I now get $1.05 per hole to cane chair seats, plus the cost of the cane.
I get my cane out of California from a company named Frank's Cane and Rush supply. I have a book at the shop which is the best I've found on the subject. I won't be back at work til Tuesday but I'll get the title and post it then. Most of the books show the worst possible way to cane.
Charlie J
02-08-2002, 05:44 PM
RB that caning job must have been very long ago. I now get $1.05 per hole to cane chair seats, plus the cost of the cane.
I get my cane out of California from a company named Frank's Cane and Rush supply. I have a book at the shop which is the best I've found on the subject. I won't be back at work til Tuesday but I'll get the title and post it then. Most of the books show the worst possible way to cane.
Charlie J
02-08-2002, 05:44 PM
RB that caning job must have been very long ago. I now get $1.05 per hole to cane chair seats, plus the cost of the cane.
I get my cane out of California from a company named Frank's Cane and Rush supply. I have a book at the shop which is the best I've found on the subject. I won't be back at work til Tuesday but I'll get the title and post it then. Most of the books show the worst possible way to cane.
Todd Bradshaw
02-08-2002, 06:07 PM
Most of the big old freight canoes used plank seats, partially because they were workboats, but also because the typical canoe-type cane seat frames would flex like crazy if you tried to bridge such a beamy hull with them. I'm sure that the project can be done, but it may be necessary to redesign the frames to something more like a traditional boat seat with cane inserts.
You can also buy pre-woven cane which is reasonably cheap, pretty easy to work with and is set into a routered groove around the hole in the frame. It's not as elegant as the real, hand woven stuff, but works pretty well and is what's in most of the production canoe seats that you see.
Todd Bradshaw
02-08-2002, 06:07 PM
Most of the big old freight canoes used plank seats, partially because they were workboats, but also because the typical canoe-type cane seat frames would flex like crazy if you tried to bridge such a beamy hull with them. I'm sure that the project can be done, but it may be necessary to redesign the frames to something more like a traditional boat seat with cane inserts.
You can also buy pre-woven cane which is reasonably cheap, pretty easy to work with and is set into a routered groove around the hole in the frame. It's not as elegant as the real, hand woven stuff, but works pretty well and is what's in most of the production canoe seats that you see.
Todd Bradshaw
02-08-2002, 06:07 PM
Most of the big old freight canoes used plank seats, partially because they were workboats, but also because the typical canoe-type cane seat frames would flex like crazy if you tried to bridge such a beamy hull with them. I'm sure that the project can be done, but it may be necessary to redesign the frames to something more like a traditional boat seat with cane inserts.
You can also buy pre-woven cane which is reasonably cheap, pretty easy to work with and is set into a routered groove around the hole in the frame. It's not as elegant as the real, hand woven stuff, but works pretty well and is what's in most of the production canoe seats that you see.
Kevin G
02-09-2002, 11:24 AM
The Perkins company in Woodbridge CT is a major supplier of cane, rush amd one piece cane. I dont have the fone # , but they can certainly help you.
Having chairs caned is quite $$$$, but it's not difficult to do it yourself. Perkins have a very clear booklet that will lead you thru it.
Kevin
Kevin G
02-09-2002, 11:24 AM
The Perkins company in Woodbridge CT is a major supplier of cane, rush amd one piece cane. I dont have the fone # , but they can certainly help you.
Having chairs caned is quite $$$$, but it's not difficult to do it yourself. Perkins have a very clear booklet that will lead you thru it.
Kevin
Kevin G
02-09-2002, 11:24 AM
The Perkins company in Woodbridge CT is a major supplier of cane, rush amd one piece cane. I dont have the fone # , but they can certainly help you.
Having chairs caned is quite $$$$, but it's not difficult to do it yourself. Perkins have a very clear booklet that will lead you thru it.
Kevin
I did a set of caned seats for a wherry a few years back, and yes, you need to custom build in a fairly heavy structure to replace the rigid nature of the plank seat. Also, we decided to go with a actual wooden row seat with cane panels to each side....I think rowing might quickly blow out an caned panel alone? I just made the frames up and passed them off to get cane routed and pressed in. And it certainly wasn't cheap!.
I did a set of caned seats for a wherry a few years back, and yes, you need to custom build in a fairly heavy structure to replace the rigid nature of the plank seat. Also, we decided to go with a actual wooden row seat with cane panels to each side....I think rowing might quickly blow out an caned panel alone? I just made the frames up and passed them off to get cane routed and pressed in. And it certainly wasn't cheap!.
I did a set of caned seats for a wherry a few years back, and yes, you need to custom build in a fairly heavy structure to replace the rigid nature of the plank seat. Also, we decided to go with a actual wooden row seat with cane panels to each side....I think rowing might quickly blow out an caned panel alone? I just made the frames up and passed them off to get cane routed and pressed in. And it certainly wasn't cheap!.
Carlsboats
02-24-2002, 04:45 PM
I too say, "Do it yourself." It is not hard.I did a stern seat in an Alden X dinghy --one panel on the centerline plus two seat panels port and starboard --and it worked fine. Sealed the cane with a couple of coats of varnish.
Just had it redone (after 30 years).
Suggestion: Make the easily removable, so you can take the frame to a caner. Much cheaper that way. Carlsboats
Carlsboats
02-24-2002, 04:45 PM
I too say, "Do it yourself." It is not hard.I did a stern seat in an Alden X dinghy --one panel on the centerline plus two seat panels port and starboard --and it worked fine. Sealed the cane with a couple of coats of varnish.
Just had it redone (after 30 years).
Suggestion: Make the easily removable, so you can take the frame to a caner. Much cheaper that way. Carlsboats
Carlsboats
02-24-2002, 04:45 PM
I too say, "Do it yourself." It is not hard.I did a stern seat in an Alden X dinghy --one panel on the centerline plus two seat panels port and starboard --and it worked fine. Sealed the cane with a couple of coats of varnish.
Just had it redone (after 30 years).
Suggestion: Make the easily removable, so you can take the frame to a caner. Much cheaper that way. Carlsboats
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