Benjamin Moore Paint

[swanko]

I have used, with reasonable success, Benjamin Moores 'Impervo' aklyd gloss aboard my double ended cutter. Good stuff, and it seems to last. But now, my local hardware store is unloading it at clearance prices. It is being discontinued because of VOC's. Is this the end for oil base paint?

[swanko]

I have used, with reasonable success, Benjamin Moores 'Impervo' aklyd gloss aboard my double ended cutter. Good stuff, and it seems to last. But now, my local hardware store is unloading it at clearance prices. It is being discontinued because of VOC's. Is this the end for oil base paint?

[swanko]

I have used, with reasonable success, Benjamin Moores 'Impervo' aklyd gloss aboard my double ended cutter. Good stuff, and it seems to last. But now, my local hardware store is unloading it at clearance prices. It is being discontinued because of VOC's. Is this the end for oil base paint?

[RonW]

No it is not the end of oil based paints.
There was a thread about this some months ago, on one of these forums.
Oil based paints are not being discontinued due to vocs, yea the salesman may tell you that. But the truth of the matter is they do not sell that much anymore, with the new and easy to use and clean up water based paints. So the simple truth is they have decided that their sells does not justify the shelf space. You will be seeing more of this not carrying oil paints, till very few places will be left that do carry them. And I suspicion that the few that do continue to carry them will end up with enough sales that they are glad they decided to keep the old oils around.

Oil based paints are far superior on wood then water based paints.I will relate what a old painter told me. He said that you see all the bottom panels on these garage doors that sit on the concrete deteriating after a few years,this is due to them being painted with water based paints. If they where painted with a oil based paint it would stop all that. I believe him.

[RonW]

No it is not the end of oil based paints.
There was a thread about this some months ago, on one of these forums.
Oil based paints are not being discontinued due to vocs, yea the salesman may tell you that. But the truth of the matter is they do not sell that much anymore, with the new and easy to use and clean up water based paints. So the simple truth is they have decided that their sells does not justify the shelf space. You will be seeing more of this not carrying oil paints, till very few places will be left that do carry them. And I suspicion that the few that do continue to carry them will end up with enough sales that they are glad they decided to keep the old oils around.

Oil based paints are far superior on wood then water based paints.I will relate what a old painter told me. He said that you see all the bottom panels on these garage doors that sit on the concrete deteriating after a few years,this is due to them being painted with water based paints. If they where painted with a oil based paint it would stop all that. I believe him.

[RonW]

No it is not the end of oil based paints.
There was a thread about this some months ago, on one of these forums.
Oil based paints are not being discontinued due to vocs, yea the salesman may tell you that. But the truth of the matter is they do not sell that much anymore, with the new and easy to use and clean up water based paints. So the simple truth is they have decided that their sells does not justify the shelf space. You will be seeing more of this not carrying oil paints, till very few places will be left that do carry them. And I suspicion that the few that do continue to carry them will end up with enough sales that they are glad they decided to keep the old oils around.

Oil based paints are far superior on wood then water based paints.I will relate what a old painter told me. He said that you see all the bottom panels on these garage doors that sit on the concrete deteriating after a few years,this is due to them being painted with water based paints. If they where painted with a oil based paint it would stop all that. I believe him.

[Bob Cleek]

Amen. Thank God for George Kirby! If only he had an outlet on the West Coast. I'll be ordering from him in quantity next haulout.

[Bob Cleek]

Amen. Thank God for George Kirby! If only he had an outlet on the West Coast. I'll be ordering from him in quantity next haulout.

[Bob Cleek]

Amen. Thank God for George Kirby! If only he had an outlet on the West Coast. I'll be ordering from him in quantity next haulout.

[landlocked sailor]

My local BM dealer tells me that Impervo will only be available in quarts heretofore; not in gallons any more. I love the stuff. Rick

[landlocked sailor]

My local BM dealer tells me that Impervo will only be available in quarts heretofore; not in gallons any more. I love the stuff. Rick

[landlocked sailor]

My local BM dealer tells me that Impervo will only be available in quarts heretofore; not in gallons any more. I love the stuff. Rick

[TimothyB]

This just opens up the market for cottage industry. Folks looking for oil paint won't find it, and a premiun brand of oils (like Kirby's) can supply the shortfall, which, to a small business, could be pretty significant. Maybe it's not enough volume for a conglomerate that depends on low price/volume to drive the business, but for small business, that relies on customization, personal service and customer satisfaction it's a win.

Those folks that frequent here, for example, that can no longer find the oil paint in the Benjamin Moore store might turn to George Kirby and pay the extra $$ + delivery because not only is his paint better than the old stuff, but hey.. you can actually BUY it.

Maybe Mr. Kirby should setup a west coast distrubutorship through the center for wooden boats. Just common colors, red/white lead, varnish, etc.

Just as a side note, who would have thought back in the 60s that a company like Lie Nielsen could make a profit? Its a similiar thing, I believe.

[TimothyB]

This just opens up the market for cottage industry. Folks looking for oil paint won't find it, and a premiun brand of oils (like Kirby's) can supply the shortfall, which, to a small business, could be pretty significant. Maybe it's not enough volume for a conglomerate that depends on low price/volume to drive the business, but for small business, that relies on customization, personal service and customer satisfaction it's a win.

Those folks that frequent here, for example, that can no longer find the oil paint in the Benjamin Moore store might turn to George Kirby and pay the extra $$ + delivery because not only is his paint better than the old stuff, but hey.. you can actually BUY it.

Maybe Mr. Kirby should setup a west coast distrubutorship through the center for wooden boats. Just common colors, red/white lead, varnish, etc.

Just as a side note, who would have thought back in the 60s that a company like Lie Nielsen could make a profit? Its a similiar thing, I believe.

[TimothyB]

This just opens up the market for cottage industry. Folks looking for oil paint won't find it, and a premiun brand of oils (like Kirby's) can supply the shortfall, which, to a small business, could be pretty significant. Maybe it's not enough volume for a conglomerate that depends on low price/volume to drive the business, but for small business, that relies on customization, personal service and customer satisfaction it's a win.

Those folks that frequent here, for example, that can no longer find the oil paint in the Benjamin Moore store might turn to George Kirby and pay the extra $$ + delivery because not only is his paint better than the old stuff, but hey.. you can actually BUY it.

Maybe Mr. Kirby should setup a west coast distrubutorship through the center for wooden boats. Just common colors, red/white lead, varnish, etc.

Just as a side note, who would have thought back in the 60s that a company like Lie Nielsen could make a profit? Its a similiar thing, I believe.

[gert]

If your in or near Canada try General Paints marine paints, they'r exelent, come in several colours and they will mix most any colour you want.

[gert]

If your in or near Canada try General Paints marine paints, they'r exelent, come in several colours and they will mix most any colour you want.

[gert]

If your in or near Canada try General Paints marine paints, they'r exelent, come in several colours and they will mix most any colour you want.

[Oyvind Snibsoer]

Actually, the purported environmental friendlieness of water based paint is overrated. True, they don't smell like oil based paints do, but some of the chemicals in water based paint is potentially far more harmful to you than the solvent in the oil based stuff. A prominent component of water based paint is latex, which a large part of the population is allergic to. In fact, the Norwegian assn for allergics and asthmatics specifically DO NOT recommend water based paint for people suffering from allergies. They recommend oil based paint and then thorough airing of the freshly painted room. This is best done by closing all windows and heating the room to drive the solvents out of the fresh paint, and then thoroughly ventilating the room. Windows and doors are then closed ant the cycle repeated for as long as is deemed necessary.

[Oyvind Snibsoer]

Actually, the purported environmental friendlieness of water based paint is overrated. True, they don't smell like oil based paints do, but some of the chemicals in water based paint is potentially far more harmful to you than the solvent in the oil based stuff. A prominent component of water based paint is latex, which a large part of the population is allergic to. In fact, the Norwegian assn for allergics and asthmatics specifically DO NOT recommend water based paint for people suffering from allergies. They recommend oil based paint and then thorough airing of the freshly painted room. This is best done by closing all windows and heating the room to drive the solvents out of the fresh paint, and then thoroughly ventilating the room. Windows and doors are then closed ant the cycle repeated for as long as is deemed necessary.

[Oyvind Snibsoer]

Actually, the purported environmental friendlieness of water based paint is overrated. True, they don't smell like oil based paints do, but some of the chemicals in water based paint is potentially far more harmful to you than the solvent in the oil based stuff. A prominent component of water based paint is latex, which a large part of the population is allergic to. In fact, the Norwegian assn for allergics and asthmatics specifically DO NOT recommend water based paint for people suffering from allergies. They recommend oil based paint and then thorough airing of the freshly painted room. This is best done by closing all windows and heating the room to drive the solvents out of the fresh paint, and then thoroughly ventilating the room. Windows and doors are then closed ant the cycle repeated for as long as is deemed necessary.

[Terry Etapa]

I use Benjamin Moore Satin Impervo in my interior. On other spaces (engineroom, lockers, etc.), I've been using Farwest industrial emanel. The Farwest (http://www.farwestpaint.com/) is 1/3 the price of the Benjamin Moore. For those who are not familiar with Farwest, they are a paint manufacturer in Seattle.

I've never used Kirby's, but I've had great service from Farwest. Has anyone used both? If so, how do they compare?

[Terry Etapa]

I use Benjamin Moore Satin Impervo in my interior. On other spaces (engineroom, lockers, etc.), I've been using Farwest industrial emanel. The Farwest (http://www.farwestpaint.com/) is 1/3 the price of the Benjamin Moore. For those who are not familiar with Farwest, they are a paint manufacturer in Seattle.

I've never used Kirby's, but I've had great service from Farwest. Has anyone used both? If so, how do they compare?

[Terry Etapa]

I use Benjamin Moore Satin Impervo in my interior. On other spaces (engineroom, lockers, etc.), I've been using Farwest industrial emanel. The Farwest (http://www.farwestpaint.com/) is 1/3 the price of the Benjamin Moore. For those who are not familiar with Farwest, they are a paint manufacturer in Seattle.

I've never used Kirby's, but I've had great service from Farwest. Has anyone used both? If so, how do they compare?

[hikingchrs]

Does Kirby not ship to the west coast?

[hikingchrs]

Does Kirby not ship to the west coast?

[hikingchrs]

Does Kirby not ship to the west coast?

[Terry Etapa]

Kirby ships, but it's very expensive. The last time I checked, it was more expensive to ship a gallon of Kirby's to Seattle, than buy a gallon of Farwest.

[Terry Etapa]

Kirby ships, but it's very expensive. The last time I checked, it was more expensive to ship a gallon of Kirby's to Seattle, than buy a gallon of Farwest.

[Terry Etapa]

Kirby ships, but it's very expensive. The last time I checked, it was more expensive to ship a gallon of Kirby's to Seattle, than buy a gallon of Farwest.

[RonW]

oyvind says-- but some of the chemicals in water based paint is potentially far more harmful to you than the solvent in the oil based stuff.

In fact, the Norwegian assn for allergics and asthmatics specifically DO NOT recommend water based paint for people suffering from allergies.

That is some pretty interesting and informative information.

[RonW]

oyvind says-- but some of the chemicals in water based paint is potentially far more harmful to you than the solvent in the oil based stuff.

In fact, the Norwegian assn for allergics and asthmatics specifically DO NOT recommend water based paint for people suffering from allergies.

That is some pretty interesting and informative information.

[RonW]

oyvind says-- but some of the chemicals in water based paint is potentially far more harmful to you than the solvent in the oil based stuff.

In fact, the Norwegian assn for allergics and asthmatics specifically DO NOT recommend water based paint for people suffering from allergies.

That is some pretty interesting and informative information.