Skilsaw worm drive- uncommon model?

[Mike DeHart]

I picked up a worm drive Skilsaw the other day on the curb. I really like spring cleaning season. :D I know the worm drive is highly regarded, but this particular one is odd. It is a model 825, which takes an 8-1/4 inch blade instead of the regular 7-1/2(?)" blade used on the model 77. I searched the web for parts and info about the model 825 and found very little. There is no limit to the information and parts available for the model 77 but the model 825 is elusive. The closest I got was from the Skil site where they list a model 5825, but that is a 6" saw, not a 8-1/4. They also list a "5825 type 1" that is an 8-1/4 inch saw, but I do not know if this is the same as the model 825 that I have. This saw needs parts, specifically a switch, cord, brushes, one brush holder w/cap, and the entire lower blade guard assembly, and I cannot find them. Should I file this under "nice try, but not worth fixing" or is this saw, with its larger than usual capacity, worth searching to the far corners of the earth to obtain the parts it needs? I do have to cut a keel for a 25 foot oak/cedar shad skiff someday...I hear the worm drive Skilsaws are really good at that task.

[Mike DeHart]

I picked up a worm drive Skilsaw the other day on the curb. I really like spring cleaning season. :D I know the worm drive is highly regarded, but this particular one is odd. It is a model 825, which takes an 8-1/4 inch blade instead of the regular 7-1/2(?)" blade used on the model 77. I searched the web for parts and info about the model 825 and found very little. There is no limit to the information and parts available for the model 77 but the model 825 is elusive. The closest I got was from the Skil site where they list a model 5825, but that is a 6" saw, not a 8-1/4. They also list a "5825 type 1" that is an 8-1/4 inch saw, but I do not know if this is the same as the model 825 that I have. This saw needs parts, specifically a switch, cord, brushes, one brush holder w/cap, and the entire lower blade guard assembly, and I cannot find them. Should I file this under "nice try, but not worth fixing" or is this saw, with its larger than usual capacity, worth searching to the far corners of the earth to obtain the parts it needs? I do have to cut a keel for a 25 foot oak/cedar shad skiff someday...I hear the worm drive Skilsaws are really good at that task.

[Mike DeHart]

I picked up a worm drive Skilsaw the other day on the curb. I really like spring cleaning season. :D I know the worm drive is highly regarded, but this particular one is odd. It is a model 825, which takes an 8-1/4 inch blade instead of the regular 7-1/2(?)" blade used on the model 77. I searched the web for parts and info about the model 825 and found very little. There is no limit to the information and parts available for the model 77 but the model 825 is elusive. The closest I got was from the Skil site where they list a model 5825, but that is a 6" saw, not a 8-1/4. They also list a "5825 type 1" that is an 8-1/4 inch saw, but I do not know if this is the same as the model 825 that I have. This saw needs parts, specifically a switch, cord, brushes, one brush holder w/cap, and the entire lower blade guard assembly, and I cannot find them. Should I file this under "nice try, but not worth fixing" or is this saw, with its larger than usual capacity, worth searching to the far corners of the earth to obtain the parts it needs? I do have to cut a keel for a 25 foot oak/cedar shad skiff someday...I hear the worm drive Skilsaws are really good at that task.

[gary porter]

Mike, the heavier Skil wormdrives are a good find.
The newer model HD5860, which may be similar to the one you have, has the ability to cut a 60 degree bevel. Most the other sawa won't handle that kind of load. They are great saws for cutting stems, stringers and such. You might try to getting the parts directly from skil or from a motor repair shop. We have such a shop here in town that carries switches, bearings and the like for all kinds of power tools. Good luck.
Gary

[gary porter]

Mike, the heavier Skil wormdrives are a good find.
The newer model HD5860, which may be similar to the one you have, has the ability to cut a 60 degree bevel. Most the other sawa won't handle that kind of load. They are great saws for cutting stems, stringers and such. You might try to getting the parts directly from skil or from a motor repair shop. We have such a shop here in town that carries switches, bearings and the like for all kinds of power tools. Good luck.
Gary

[gary porter]

Mike, the heavier Skil wormdrives are a good find.
The newer model HD5860, which may be similar to the one you have, has the ability to cut a 60 degree bevel. Most the other sawa won't handle that kind of load. They are great saws for cutting stems, stringers and such. You might try to getting the parts directly from skil or from a motor repair shop. We have such a shop here in town that carries switches, bearings and the like for all kinds of power tools. Good luck.
Gary

[L.W. Baxter]

I would think that brushes and brush cap for that saw should be the same as for a model 77. The cord and switch, too, of course. As far as the table goes, find a specialty tool store that caters specifically to construction contractors, and I bet they can help, unless it is really old. I know you can get tables for the newer models, in lightweight magnesium.

The Skil wormdrive is, as the kids say, the shiznit. Drizzle the wizzle. Word.

--Lee

[L.W. Baxter]

I would think that brushes and brush cap for that saw should be the same as for a model 77. The cord and switch, too, of course. As far as the table goes, find a specialty tool store that caters specifically to construction contractors, and I bet they can help, unless it is really old. I know you can get tables for the newer models, in lightweight magnesium.

The Skil wormdrive is, as the kids say, the shiznit. Drizzle the wizzle. Word.

--Lee

[L.W. Baxter]

I would think that brushes and brush cap for that saw should be the same as for a model 77. The cord and switch, too, of course. As far as the table goes, find a specialty tool store that caters specifically to construction contractors, and I bet they can help, unless it is really old. I know you can get tables for the newer models, in lightweight magnesium.

The Skil wormdrive is, as the kids say, the shiznit. Drizzle the wizzle. Word.

--Lee

[Peter Malcolm Jardine]

I have an 8 1/4 ball bearing Skil and it's a great saw. The one you just found is worth
a lot of dough new. I suspect that the 77 worm drive saw uses the same parts as has been said. I think it's worth fixing. Betcha it's built like the proverbial house. ;)

[Peter Malcolm Jardine]

I have an 8 1/4 ball bearing Skil and it's a great saw. The one you just found is worth
a lot of dough new. I suspect that the 77 worm drive saw uses the same parts as has been said. I think it's worth fixing. Betcha it's built like the proverbial house. ;)

[Peter Malcolm Jardine]

I have an 8 1/4 ball bearing Skil and it's a great saw. The one you just found is worth
a lot of dough new. I suspect that the 77 worm drive saw uses the same parts as has been said. I think it's worth fixing. Betcha it's built like the proverbial house. ;)

[Ed Harrow]

Mike, I'd like you to meet Dumpster Sally

http://home.fiam.net/eeharrow/6_16_02.JPG

And no, she ain't just another pretty face ;)

http://home.fiam.net/eeharrow/Dumpster_Sally_at_work.JPG

Here she just finished about 40 linear feet at full depth in one pass. Didn't even get her breathing hard. Not bad for something I rescued out of a dumpster.

[Ed Harrow]

Mike, I'd like you to meet Dumpster Sally

http://home.fiam.net/eeharrow/6_16_02.JPG

And no, she ain't just another pretty face ;)

http://home.fiam.net/eeharrow/Dumpster_Sally_at_work.JPG

Here she just finished about 40 linear feet at full depth in one pass. Didn't even get her breathing hard. Not bad for something I rescued out of a dumpster.

[Ed Harrow]

Mike, I'd like you to meet Dumpster Sally

http://home.fiam.net/eeharrow/6_16_02.JPG

And no, she ain't just another pretty face ;)

http://home.fiam.net/eeharrow/Dumpster_Sally_at_work.JPG

Here she just finished about 40 linear feet at full depth in one pass. Didn't even get her breathing hard. Not bad for something I rescued out of a dumpster.

[cs]

Man, all I ever find at the dump is trash. :(

Chad

[cs]

Man, all I ever find at the dump is trash. :(

Chad

[cs]

Man, all I ever find at the dump is trash. :(

Chad

[Mike DeHart]

I guess I'll try calling Skil directly to see if they have the parts list and diagram for this saw. It would seem reasonable that model 77 parts should fit, but I want to be certain. I expect the lower blade guard to be the hardest part to find. I really don't need it for function, but I am not comfortable with the blade being always exposed. It would be too easy to make a cut, then set the saw down and have the still-turning blade gouge whatever it was set on, including body parts. I had a lesser circular saw once that the lower guard got stuck while I was cutting. I set the saw down, the blade bit into the floor, and the saw jumped around lke it just ate hot chile peppers. It was not a pretty sight.

Ed- The saw I got looks newer than Dumpster Sally. The parts I need may be available from the other current models. Also, Finbar seems to have a "look" on his face. I don't think he likes his, ummm, decoration. smile.gif

Chad- Don't look in the trash bins. Keep your eye on the scrap metal and newspaper bins. That is where you get the clean, useful trash. Bicycles, lawnmowers, outboards, truck rims, saws, bar stock, pots, pans, garden stakes, chainsaws, lamps, stereos, log chains, various hand and power tools, car repair books, industrial supply catalogs, antique house hardware, rocking chairs, window glass, onandonandon...loads of good stuff in the clean piles. Even I won't climb through someone's kitchen garbage. A couple of local townships here do trash collection. One day each month is "bulk day" where large items, non garbage, are collected. People start stacking things out several days ahead of time. What a gold mine!

Bottom feeding is a great sport. NedL clearly beat my worm drive saw with his jig/circular saw combo, but I am still ahead by at least a full length with my 1949 Johnson Seahorse score. :D

[Mike DeHart]

I guess I'll try calling Skil directly to see if they have the parts list and diagram for this saw. It would seem reasonable that model 77 parts should fit, but I want to be certain. I expect the lower blade guard to be the hardest part to find. I really don't need it for function, but I am not comfortable with the blade being always exposed. It would be too easy to make a cut, then set the saw down and have the still-turning blade gouge whatever it was set on, including body parts. I had a lesser circular saw once that the lower guard got stuck while I was cutting. I set the saw down, the blade bit into the floor, and the saw jumped around lke it just ate hot chile peppers. It was not a pretty sight.

Ed- The saw I got looks newer than Dumpster Sally. The parts I need may be available from the other current models. Also, Finbar seems to have a "look" on his face. I don't think he likes his, ummm, decoration. smile.gif

Chad- Don't look in the trash bins. Keep your eye on the scrap metal and newspaper bins. That is where you get the clean, useful trash. Bicycles, lawnmowers, outboards, truck rims, saws, bar stock, pots, pans, garden stakes, chainsaws, lamps, stereos, log chains, various hand and power tools, car repair books, industrial supply catalogs, antique house hardware, rocking chairs, window glass, onandonandon...loads of good stuff in the clean piles. Even I won't climb through someone's kitchen garbage. A couple of local townships here do trash collection. One day each month is "bulk day" where large items, non garbage, are collected. People start stacking things out several days ahead of time. What a gold mine!

Bottom feeding is a great sport. NedL clearly beat my worm drive saw with his jig/circular saw combo, but I am still ahead by at least a full length with my 1949 Johnson Seahorse score. :D

[Mike DeHart]

I guess I'll try calling Skil directly to see if they have the parts list and diagram for this saw. It would seem reasonable that model 77 parts should fit, but I want to be certain. I expect the lower blade guard to be the hardest part to find. I really don't need it for function, but I am not comfortable with the blade being always exposed. It would be too easy to make a cut, then set the saw down and have the still-turning blade gouge whatever it was set on, including body parts. I had a lesser circular saw once that the lower guard got stuck while I was cutting. I set the saw down, the blade bit into the floor, and the saw jumped around lke it just ate hot chile peppers. It was not a pretty sight.

Ed- The saw I got looks newer than Dumpster Sally. The parts I need may be available from the other current models. Also, Finbar seems to have a "look" on his face. I don't think he likes his, ummm, decoration. smile.gif

Chad- Don't look in the trash bins. Keep your eye on the scrap metal and newspaper bins. That is where you get the clean, useful trash. Bicycles, lawnmowers, outboards, truck rims, saws, bar stock, pots, pans, garden stakes, chainsaws, lamps, stereos, log chains, various hand and power tools, car repair books, industrial supply catalogs, antique house hardware, rocking chairs, window glass, onandonandon...loads of good stuff in the clean piles. Even I won't climb through someone's kitchen garbage. A couple of local townships here do trash collection. One day each month is "bulk day" where large items, non garbage, are collected. People start stacking things out several days ahead of time. What a gold mine!

Bottom feeding is a great sport. NedL clearly beat my worm drive saw with his jig/circular saw combo, but I am still ahead by at least a full length with my 1949 Johnson Seahorse score. :D

[Ed Harrow]

Mike, I have a copy of the user's manual (thanks to the kindness of a WBFite. I could copy that for you if you'd like. As I sit here, and it there, I'm not certain how detailed it is with respect to parts, p/n, etc.

[Ed Harrow]

Mike, I have a copy of the user's manual (thanks to the kindness of a WBFite. I could copy that for you if you'd like. As I sit here, and it there, I'm not certain how detailed it is with respect to parts, p/n, etc.

[Ed Harrow]

Mike, I have a copy of the user's manual (thanks to the kindness of a WBFite. I could copy that for you if you'd like. As I sit here, and it there, I'm not certain how detailed it is with respect to parts, p/n, etc.

[nedL]

Mike Don't listen, that 825 is just an old piece of junk. ;) I've got one that's just used to prop up someting in the shop (my dad bought it used about 35 years & it just won't leave. :D ) Who wants an 8 1/4" saw that weighs so much that it almost can't kick back & will cut through anything anyway. ;) . Seriously, REAL nice saw, may date to the 1950's, I think mine is 1958, so you may need to find someone with real old stock to replace the parts. The brushes should be no problem at a good hardware store or electric motor repair shop though. (Like Ed, I can't ermember from here if there is an exploded diagram in hte manual.) - God find, well worth remuilding (as long as the windings aren't burned out.)

[nedL]

Mike Don't listen, that 825 is just an old piece of junk. ;) I've got one that's just used to prop up someting in the shop (my dad bought it used about 35 years & it just won't leave. :D ) Who wants an 8 1/4" saw that weighs so much that it almost can't kick back & will cut through anything anyway. ;) . Seriously, REAL nice saw, may date to the 1950's, I think mine is 1958, so you may need to find someone with real old stock to replace the parts. The brushes should be no problem at a good hardware store or electric motor repair shop though. (Like Ed, I can't ermember from here if there is an exploded diagram in hte manual.) - God find, well worth remuilding (as long as the windings aren't burned out.)

[nedL]

Mike Don't listen, that 825 is just an old piece of junk. ;) I've got one that's just used to prop up someting in the shop (my dad bought it used about 35 years & it just won't leave. :D ) Who wants an 8 1/4" saw that weighs so much that it almost can't kick back & will cut through anything anyway. ;) . Seriously, REAL nice saw, may date to the 1950's, I think mine is 1958, so you may need to find someone with real old stock to replace the parts. The brushes should be no problem at a good hardware store or electric motor repair shop though. (Like Ed, I can't ermember from here if there is an exploded diagram in hte manual.) - God find, well worth remuilding (as long as the windings aren't burned out.)

[nedL]

Mike, I just saw your last line. -- I'll see your 1949 Johnson Seahorse & raise you a 1947 Evenrude Sportwin, a mid 1950's 1.5 hp. Neptune, and a 1951 3.5 hp. Elgin. :D (Those are the running ones) My 'dump list' sounds like yours lawnmowers, snowblowers, drill press, lathes(3), table saws(2), jointer, more electric drill & circular saws than I can use, jig saws, sabre saws, surveyors transit, hardware, sterling silver bowls, pewter, radios, clocks, CD players, etc. :D (I grew up in 'Jersey' too, 'exit 109' ;) )

[nedL]

Mike, I just saw your last line. -- I'll see your 1949 Johnson Seahorse & raise you a 1947 Evenrude Sportwin, a mid 1950's 1.5 hp. Neptune, and a 1951 3.5 hp. Elgin. :D (Those are the running ones) My 'dump list' sounds like yours lawnmowers, snowblowers, drill press, lathes(3), table saws(2), jointer, more electric drill & circular saws than I can use, jig saws, sabre saws, surveyors transit, hardware, sterling silver bowls, pewter, radios, clocks, CD players, etc. :D (I grew up in 'Jersey' too, 'exit 109' ;) )

[nedL]

Mike, I just saw your last line. -- I'll see your 1949 Johnson Seahorse & raise you a 1947 Evenrude Sportwin, a mid 1950's 1.5 hp. Neptune, and a 1951 3.5 hp. Elgin. :D (Those are the running ones) My 'dump list' sounds like yours lawnmowers, snowblowers, drill press, lathes(3), table saws(2), jointer, more electric drill & circular saws than I can use, jig saws, sabre saws, surveyors transit, hardware, sterling silver bowls, pewter, radios, clocks, CD players, etc. :D (I grew up in 'Jersey' too, 'exit 109' ;) )

[Mike DeHart]

Ed- Thanks for the offer. I'll contact you if I can't get one from the source.

NedL- I'll call it even, my Johnson and your Evinrude. Your Neptune and Elgin add up to 5HP, I can counter that with the 5HP Eska I have on the rack. smile.gif As far as the rest of the loot, we could slug it out all day. Lets just agree that we have both mastered the art of scrounging. Chad obviously needs a lesson. tongue.gif

[Mike DeHart]

Ed- Thanks for the offer. I'll contact you if I can't get one from the source.

NedL- I'll call it even, my Johnson and your Evinrude. Your Neptune and Elgin add up to 5HP, I can counter that with the 5HP Eska I have on the rack. smile.gif As far as the rest of the loot, we could slug it out all day. Lets just agree that we have both mastered the art of scrounging. Chad obviously needs a lesson. tongue.gif

[Mike DeHart]

Ed- Thanks for the offer. I'll contact you if I can't get one from the source.

NedL- I'll call it even, my Johnson and your Evinrude. Your Neptune and Elgin add up to 5HP, I can counter that with the 5HP Eska I have on the rack. smile.gif As far as the rest of the loot, we could slug it out all day. Lets just agree that we have both mastered the art of scrounging. Chad obviously needs a lesson. tongue.gif

[Stiletto]

Mike, do you have an address for Skil, I have a 25year old (plastic) planer I need a drive belt for that I cant get locally.

[Stiletto]

Mike, do you have an address for Skil, I have a 25year old (plastic) planer I need a drive belt for that I cant get locally.

[Stiletto]

Mike, do you have an address for Skil, I have a 25year old (plastic) planer I need a drive belt for that I cant get locally.

[Dave Fleming]

Skil is now part of the Robert Bosch conglomerate.

[Dave Fleming]

Skil is now part of the Robert Bosch conglomerate.

[Dave Fleming]

Skil is now part of the Robert Bosch conglomerate.

[nedL]

Chad, Mike says you need a lesson. :D

http://www.northernsun.com/nsm/images/thumb/1644Dumpster.jpg

[nedL]

Chad, Mike says you need a lesson. :D

http://www.northernsun.com/nsm/images/thumb/1644Dumpster.jpg

[nedL]

Chad, Mike says you need a lesson. :D

http://www.northernsun.com/nsm/images/thumb/1644Dumpster.jpg

[nedL]

Hi Dave! Good to hear from you. smile.gif

[nedL]

Hi Dave! Good to hear from you. smile.gif

[nedL]

Hi Dave! Good to hear from you. smile.gif

[Mike DeHart]

www.skil.com (http://www.skil.com)

That was too easy. A couple of other sources I found for Skil parts:

http://www.toolpartsdirect.com/cgi-bin/tpbrand.cgi/34/skil

http://shop.store.yahoo.com/mendingshed/skill.html

[Mike DeHart]

www.skil.com (http://www.skil.com)

That was too easy. A couple of other sources I found for Skil parts:

http://www.toolpartsdirect.com/cgi-bin/tpbrand.cgi/34/skil

http://shop.store.yahoo.com/mendingshed/skill.html

[Mike DeHart]

www.skil.com (http://www.skil.com)

That was too easy. A couple of other sources I found for Skil parts:

http://www.toolpartsdirect.com/cgi-bin/tpbrand.cgi/34/skil

http://shop.store.yahoo.com/mendingshed/skill.html

[Stiletto]

Many thanks smile.gif

[Stiletto]

Many thanks smile.gif

[Stiletto]

Many thanks smile.gif