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Cameron Roberts
11-28-2005, 09:00 PM
I'm going to build a 20' SSS this summer. Where is the best place to ger either sapele or meranti marine ply to build it out of? any other wood suggestions? I am in Roanoke, VA and there aren't any sources nearby.
Thanks
Cameron Roberts
11-28-2005, 09:00 PM
I'm going to build a 20' SSS this summer. Where is the best place to ger either sapele or meranti marine ply to build it out of? any other wood suggestions? I am in Roanoke, VA and there aren't any sources nearby.
Thanks
Cameron Roberts
11-28-2005, 09:00 PM
I'm going to build a 20' SSS this summer. Where is the best place to ger either sapele or meranti marine ply to build it out of? any other wood suggestions? I am in Roanoke, VA and there aren't any sources nearby.
Thanks
kc8pql
11-28-2005, 09:49 PM
Google marine plywood.
kc8pql
11-28-2005, 09:49 PM
Google marine plywood.
kc8pql
11-28-2005, 09:49 PM
Google marine plywood.
Rick Tyler
11-28-2005, 09:54 PM
Here's one that has a good rep: http://plywood.e-boat.net/index.php
Rick Tyler
11-28-2005, 09:54 PM
Here's one that has a good rep: http://plywood.e-boat.net/index.php
Rick Tyler
11-28-2005, 09:54 PM
Here's one that has a good rep: http://plywood.e-boat.net/index.php
Venchka
11-29-2005, 12:37 PM
Harbor Sales in Maryland. They stock Lloyds Approved Shelmarine sapele, as good as it gets in marine plywood. They will ship to you.
Harbor Sales Marine Panels (http://www.harborsales.net/products.cfm?cat=Nautical%20%2D%2D%20Marine%20Pane ls)
Wayne
In Texas at last. :D
[ 11-29-2005, 01:02 PM: Message edited by: Venchka ]
Venchka
11-29-2005, 12:37 PM
Harbor Sales in Maryland. They stock Lloyds Approved Shelmarine sapele, as good as it gets in marine plywood. They will ship to you.
Harbor Sales Marine Panels (http://www.harborsales.net/products.cfm?cat=Nautical%20%2D%2D%20Marine%20Pane ls)
Wayne
In Texas at last. :D
[ 11-29-2005, 01:02 PM: Message edited by: Venchka ]
Venchka
11-29-2005, 12:37 PM
Harbor Sales in Maryland. They stock Lloyds Approved Shelmarine sapele, as good as it gets in marine plywood. They will ship to you.
Harbor Sales Marine Panels (http://www.harborsales.net/products.cfm?cat=Nautical%20%2D%2D%20Marine%20Pane ls)
Wayne
In Texas at last. :D
[ 11-29-2005, 01:02 PM: Message edited by: Venchka ]
Bruce Hooke
11-29-2005, 12:43 PM
Boulter Plywood (http://www.boulterplywood.com/) is another source that has been around for many years, but since Harbor is not far from you, that's the first place I would go to if I were you. If you've got a vehicle that will carry the plywood you need, maybe you could even pick it up sometime when you are up near Baltimore and save yourself the shipping costs and hassles.
Bruce Hooke
11-29-2005, 12:43 PM
Boulter Plywood (http://www.boulterplywood.com/) is another source that has been around for many years, but since Harbor is not far from you, that's the first place I would go to if I were you. If you've got a vehicle that will carry the plywood you need, maybe you could even pick it up sometime when you are up near Baltimore and save yourself the shipping costs and hassles.
Bruce Hooke
11-29-2005, 12:43 PM
Boulter Plywood (http://www.boulterplywood.com/) is another source that has been around for many years, but since Harbor is not far from you, that's the first place I would go to if I were you. If you've got a vehicle that will carry the plywood you need, maybe you could even pick it up sometime when you are up near Baltimore and save yourself the shipping costs and hassles.
Cameron Roberts
11-29-2005, 05:53 PM
I've been looking around at prices and shelmarine sapele marine ply is way too expensive. What about the marine okoume that Harbor carries? Much cheaper than the sapele, and this boat is going to be sheathed in fiberglass anyway. Rot isn't much of a big issue, it will be on a trailer most of the time. Any other less expensive wood recommendations?
Cameron Roberts
11-29-2005, 05:53 PM
I've been looking around at prices and shelmarine sapele marine ply is way too expensive. What about the marine okoume that Harbor carries? Much cheaper than the sapele, and this boat is going to be sheathed in fiberglass anyway. Rot isn't much of a big issue, it will be on a trailer most of the time. Any other less expensive wood recommendations?
Cameron Roberts
11-29-2005, 05:53 PM
I've been looking around at prices and shelmarine sapele marine ply is way too expensive. What about the marine okoume that Harbor carries? Much cheaper than the sapele, and this boat is going to be sheathed in fiberglass anyway. Rot isn't much of a big issue, it will be on a trailer most of the time. Any other less expensive wood recommendations?
Venchka
11-29-2005, 06:02 PM
Signal MDO also from Harbor Sales.
Wayne
In Texas. :D
Venchka
11-29-2005, 06:02 PM
Signal MDO also from Harbor Sales.
Wayne
In Texas. :D
Venchka
11-29-2005, 06:02 PM
Signal MDO also from Harbor Sales.
Wayne
In Texas. :D
Bill Perkins
11-29-2005, 06:39 PM
Cameron I used Harbor Sales occcume for the lapstraked topsides of my 24 footer .The stuff is not rot resistant ,but I encapsolated it with epoxy and paint , but no glass. I't's very light ,which matters I think in a trailable planeing boat.
Everything I got from them is high quality .Their A-A fir is very nice ,a cut above what I've seen in Atlanta yards , but needs to be glassed to finish well. I got together with 2 other people , one from this forum ,and placed an order of over 1,000 dollars ,thus paying no shipping .I'd Figure out what your order will wiegh .It could be more than you want to haul in your pickup .
Bill Perkins
11-29-2005, 06:39 PM
Cameron I used Harbor Sales occcume for the lapstraked topsides of my 24 footer .The stuff is not rot resistant ,but I encapsolated it with epoxy and paint , but no glass. I't's very light ,which matters I think in a trailable planeing boat.
Everything I got from them is high quality .Their A-A fir is very nice ,a cut above what I've seen in Atlanta yards , but needs to be glassed to finish well. I got together with 2 other people , one from this forum ,and placed an order of over 1,000 dollars ,thus paying no shipping .I'd Figure out what your order will wiegh .It could be more than you want to haul in your pickup .
Bill Perkins
11-29-2005, 06:39 PM
Cameron I used Harbor Sales occcume for the lapstraked topsides of my 24 footer .The stuff is not rot resistant ,but I encapsolated it with epoxy and paint , but no glass. I't's very light ,which matters I think in a trailable planeing boat.
Everything I got from them is high quality .Their A-A fir is very nice ,a cut above what I've seen in Atlanta yards , but needs to be glassed to finish well. I got together with 2 other people , one from this forum ,and placed an order of over 1,000 dollars ,thus paying no shipping .I'd Figure out what your order will wiegh .It could be more than you want to haul in your pickup .
Originally posted by Cameron Roberts:
I'm going to build a 20' SSS this summer. Where is the best place to ger either sapele or meranti marine ply to build it out of? any other wood suggestions? I am in Roanoke, VA and there aren't any sources nearby.
ThanksTake I-64 east to I-95 North on I-95 To Baltimore. Five or six hours and there you are. Come 25 miles north and I'll put you up for the night, give you supper and breakfast. If you decide to make the trip, P.M. me and I'll send details.
Ross in Bel Air
Originally posted by Cameron Roberts:
I'm going to build a 20' SSS this summer. Where is the best place to ger either sapele or meranti marine ply to build it out of? any other wood suggestions? I am in Roanoke, VA and there aren't any sources nearby.
ThanksTake I-64 east to I-95 North on I-95 To Baltimore. Five or six hours and there you are. Come 25 miles north and I'll put you up for the night, give you supper and breakfast. If you decide to make the trip, P.M. me and I'll send details.
Ross in Bel Air
Originally posted by Cameron Roberts:
I'm going to build a 20' SSS this summer. Where is the best place to ger either sapele or meranti marine ply to build it out of? any other wood suggestions? I am in Roanoke, VA and there aren't any sources nearby.
ThanksTake I-64 east to I-95 North on I-95 To Baltimore. Five or six hours and there you are. Come 25 miles north and I'll put you up for the night, give you supper and breakfast. If you decide to make the trip, P.M. me and I'll send details.
Ross in Bel Air
kc8pql
11-29-2005, 08:08 PM
Don't overlook your local lumber yard (a real one, not attached to a big box). After checking all the above mentioned places, and a few others, my local guy special ordered a unit of nice AA marine fir (no patches, equal thickness plys, no voids) for less than anyone else quoted and they loaded it into the shop.
kc8pql
11-29-2005, 08:08 PM
Don't overlook your local lumber yard (a real one, not attached to a big box). After checking all the above mentioned places, and a few others, my local guy special ordered a unit of nice AA marine fir (no patches, equal thickness plys, no voids) for less than anyone else quoted and they loaded it into the shop.
kc8pql
11-29-2005, 08:08 PM
Don't overlook your local lumber yard (a real one, not attached to a big box). After checking all the above mentioned places, and a few others, my local guy special ordered a unit of nice AA marine fir (no patches, equal thickness plys, no voids) for less than anyone else quoted and they loaded it into the shop.
Venchka
11-30-2005, 09:34 AM
Try these folks in Norfolk. Folks here have spoken highly of them.
Yukon Lumber (http://www.yukonlumber.com/plywood.html)
For what it's worth, time and again I have been told that skimping on materials is false economy. I followed that advice when I commissioned my boat to be built. The incremental cost of Shelmarine plywood was inconsequential in the total materials cost. The finished product far outweighed the extra cost.
Wayne
In Texas. :D
Venchka
11-30-2005, 09:34 AM
Try these folks in Norfolk. Folks here have spoken highly of them.
Yukon Lumber (http://www.yukonlumber.com/plywood.html)
For what it's worth, time and again I have been told that skimping on materials is false economy. I followed that advice when I commissioned my boat to be built. The incremental cost of Shelmarine plywood was inconsequential in the total materials cost. The finished product far outweighed the extra cost.
Wayne
In Texas. :D
Venchka
11-30-2005, 09:34 AM
Try these folks in Norfolk. Folks here have spoken highly of them.
Yukon Lumber (http://www.yukonlumber.com/plywood.html)
For what it's worth, time and again I have been told that skimping on materials is false economy. I followed that advice when I commissioned my boat to be built. The incremental cost of Shelmarine plywood was inconsequential in the total materials cost. The finished product far outweighed the extra cost.
Wayne
In Texas. :D
pipefitter
11-30-2005, 11:14 AM
You could also use the expensive stuff for the bottom part of the boat and use the less expensive meranti for the above waterline parts. The meranti that I bought (bs1088) was pretty nice to work with compared to fir and the scraps that are still outside (on the ground) are still in good shape whereas the fir marine exterior didnt fair so well. The fir hasn't been out there half as long either.There is small pieces of meranti that have been outside for 3 years with no delamination. Outside on the ground for so long that the leaves that it was sitting on had turned to compost and stuck to the ply like mud. When scraped off,the fir had termite/insect damage/delamination and the meranti was basically just dirty with minor surface damage. I would say that this is an extreme test with Florida climate involved and all the critters that live here.I can't see this being less than enough for a trailered boat.
Also have some scraps that were cutoffs of pre epoxy sealed panels and they are in no better shape than the raw.The epoxy had lifted in places though as it had no UV protection.
pipefitter
11-30-2005, 11:14 AM
You could also use the expensive stuff for the bottom part of the boat and use the less expensive meranti for the above waterline parts. The meranti that I bought (bs1088) was pretty nice to work with compared to fir and the scraps that are still outside (on the ground) are still in good shape whereas the fir marine exterior didnt fair so well. The fir hasn't been out there half as long either.There is small pieces of meranti that have been outside for 3 years with no delamination. Outside on the ground for so long that the leaves that it was sitting on had turned to compost and stuck to the ply like mud. When scraped off,the fir had termite/insect damage/delamination and the meranti was basically just dirty with minor surface damage. I would say that this is an extreme test with Florida climate involved and all the critters that live here.I can't see this being less than enough for a trailered boat.
Also have some scraps that were cutoffs of pre epoxy sealed panels and they are in no better shape than the raw.The epoxy had lifted in places though as it had no UV protection.
pipefitter
11-30-2005, 11:14 AM
You could also use the expensive stuff for the bottom part of the boat and use the less expensive meranti for the above waterline parts. The meranti that I bought (bs1088) was pretty nice to work with compared to fir and the scraps that are still outside (on the ground) are still in good shape whereas the fir marine exterior didnt fair so well. The fir hasn't been out there half as long either.There is small pieces of meranti that have been outside for 3 years with no delamination. Outside on the ground for so long that the leaves that it was sitting on had turned to compost and stuck to the ply like mud. When scraped off,the fir had termite/insect damage/delamination and the meranti was basically just dirty with minor surface damage. I would say that this is an extreme test with Florida climate involved and all the critters that live here.I can't see this being less than enough for a trailered boat.
Also have some scraps that were cutoffs of pre epoxy sealed panels and they are in no better shape than the raw.The epoxy had lifted in places though as it had no UV protection.
emichaels
12-03-2005, 08:22 PM
This might help.
Wood Suppliers (http://www.glen-l.com/resources/lumber-suppliers.html)
I noticed when looking around for sapele that some places had that particular plywood which was sapele thru each layer, some did not, only on the outter plys. Buyer beware ! Using the best materials available make the building experience much more fun and makes the owning experience much more stress free. Get the best stuff you can !
Eric.
[ 12-03-2005, 08:24 PM: Message edited by: emichaels ]
emichaels
12-03-2005, 08:22 PM
This might help.
Wood Suppliers (http://www.glen-l.com/resources/lumber-suppliers.html)
I noticed when looking around for sapele that some places had that particular plywood which was sapele thru each layer, some did not, only on the outter plys. Buyer beware ! Using the best materials available make the building experience much more fun and makes the owning experience much more stress free. Get the best stuff you can !
Eric.
[ 12-03-2005, 08:24 PM: Message edited by: emichaels ]
emichaels
12-03-2005, 08:22 PM
This might help.
Wood Suppliers (http://www.glen-l.com/resources/lumber-suppliers.html)
I noticed when looking around for sapele that some places had that particular plywood which was sapele thru each layer, some did not, only on the outter plys. Buyer beware ! Using the best materials available make the building experience much more fun and makes the owning experience much more stress free. Get the best stuff you can !
Eric.
[ 12-03-2005, 08:24 PM: Message edited by: emichaels ]
Zimmer
12-05-2005, 07:46 AM
Ditto the Yukon lumber out of Norfolk.
Zimmer
12-05-2005, 07:46 AM
Ditto the Yukon lumber out of Norfolk.
Zimmer
12-05-2005, 07:46 AM
Ditto the Yukon lumber out of Norfolk.
garyspear
12-27-2005, 08:31 PM
can't get on board with the yukon lumber thing. I lived in hampton roads for years. chesapeake specificaly and While i would not hesitate to use them as a source of hardwood i would not even begin to consider them for my marine plywood. I asked them about it two summers ago and they were not only not helpful but were completely clueless about the diferences in the plywood types. I am unframiliar with the type of boat you are constructing cameron. but if it will be sheathed in glass i can't see how it will make much difference. but if you will be sheathing only because you are using a lesser plywood the cost difference is negated by using the better plywood and paint. epoxy is very expensive. in my case I chose the better plywood route as I only want to paint and varnish my plywood boat.
garyspear
12-27-2005, 08:31 PM
can't get on board with the yukon lumber thing. I lived in hampton roads for years. chesapeake specificaly and While i would not hesitate to use them as a source of hardwood i would not even begin to consider them for my marine plywood. I asked them about it two summers ago and they were not only not helpful but were completely clueless about the diferences in the plywood types. I am unframiliar with the type of boat you are constructing cameron. but if it will be sheathed in glass i can't see how it will make much difference. but if you will be sheathing only because you are using a lesser plywood the cost difference is negated by using the better plywood and paint. epoxy is very expensive. in my case I chose the better plywood route as I only want to paint and varnish my plywood boat.
garyspear
12-27-2005, 08:31 PM
can't get on board with the yukon lumber thing. I lived in hampton roads for years. chesapeake specificaly and While i would not hesitate to use them as a source of hardwood i would not even begin to consider them for my marine plywood. I asked them about it two summers ago and they were not only not helpful but were completely clueless about the diferences in the plywood types. I am unframiliar with the type of boat you are constructing cameron. but if it will be sheathed in glass i can't see how it will make much difference. but if you will be sheathing only because you are using a lesser plywood the cost difference is negated by using the better plywood and paint. epoxy is very expensive. in my case I chose the better plywood route as I only want to paint and varnish my plywood boat.
JimConlin
12-27-2005, 09:15 PM
When product is being shipped to you, sometimes there are surprises in what you get. There is great value in seeing the actual product before you've bought it. Take the road trip to Baltimore.
JimConlin
12-27-2005, 09:15 PM
When product is being shipped to you, sometimes there are surprises in what you get. There is great value in seeing the actual product before you've bought it. Take the road trip to Baltimore.
JimConlin
12-27-2005, 09:15 PM
When product is being shipped to you, sometimes there are surprises in what you get. There is great value in seeing the actual product before you've bought it. Take the road trip to Baltimore.
Hal Forsen
12-28-2005, 11:41 AM
this boat is going to be sheathed in fiberglass anyway You're planning on sheathing a Simmons with FG?
Curious about that.
HF
Hal Forsen
12-28-2005, 11:41 AM
this boat is going to be sheathed in fiberglass anyway You're planning on sheathing a Simmons with FG?
Curious about that.
HF
Hal Forsen
12-28-2005, 11:41 AM
this boat is going to be sheathed in fiberglass anyway You're planning on sheathing a Simmons with FG?
Curious about that.
HF
sdowney717
01-02-2006, 05:44 PM
I have and will keep buying all 'exotic' wood from Yukon Lumber in Norfolk. They are an hours drive from me.
I need to replace a plank on the port stern side of the boat (top most plank) and am thinking of IPE for this.
Heavy but durable, cheaper than H Mahogany.
Anyway It is always good to do the research for yourself not relying on a salesman at the counter.
[ 01-02-2006, 05:49 PM: Message edited by: sdowney717 ]
sdowney717
01-02-2006, 05:44 PM
I have and will keep buying all 'exotic' wood from Yukon Lumber in Norfolk. They are an hours drive from me.
I need to replace a plank on the port stern side of the boat (top most plank) and am thinking of IPE for this.
Heavy but durable, cheaper than H Mahogany.
Anyway It is always good to do the research for yourself not relying on a salesman at the counter.
[ 01-02-2006, 05:49 PM: Message edited by: sdowney717 ]
sdowney717
01-02-2006, 05:44 PM
I have and will keep buying all 'exotic' wood from Yukon Lumber in Norfolk. They are an hours drive from me.
I need to replace a plank on the port stern side of the boat (top most plank) and am thinking of IPE for this.
Heavy but durable, cheaper than H Mahogany.
Anyway It is always good to do the research for yourself not relying on a salesman at the counter.
[ 01-02-2006, 05:49 PM: Message edited by: sdowney717 ]
Thad Van Gilder
01-03-2006, 08:05 AM
There is a wood dealer just outsdie Charlottesville that I used to frequent when I was dating a c-ville girl.
I look around and try to find the address.
it was near the community college if I recall, off 64.
-Thad
Thad Van Gilder
01-03-2006, 08:05 AM
There is a wood dealer just outsdie Charlottesville that I used to frequent when I was dating a c-ville girl.
I look around and try to find the address.
it was near the community college if I recall, off 64.
-Thad
Thad Van Gilder
01-03-2006, 08:05 AM
There is a wood dealer just outsdie Charlottesville that I used to frequent when I was dating a c-ville girl.
I look around and try to find the address.
it was near the community college if I recall, off 64.
-Thad
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