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Have been checking out the purchase of an older, but sound wooden sloop in Mass. area and am trying to come up with an economical transport to Northern Calif. Boat truckers bid $2.00 to 1.15 a mile, do the math. Beam 8'2", Wt. #6000. I have plenty of time and have had suggesions of borrowed boat trailers and F 250's, rented F 250's and flat trailers with a cradle, a container chassis with cradle, via rail, or ship?
So far tend to go for a one way, drive it myself, with a F 250 renter and trailer with cradle, but comeup with blanks, which may be the way it is. I dont't anticipate any loading/ unloading complications, but the economical in between has me stumped. Before giving up thought this might be the place to get some ideas. I understand this might just be the way it is though. All inputs appreciated, Thanks, cbob
Have been checking out the purchase of an older, but sound wooden sloop in Mass. area and am trying to come up with an economical transport to Northern Calif. Boat truckers bid $2.00 to 1.15 a mile, do the math. Beam 8'2", Wt. #6000. I have plenty of time and have had suggesions of borrowed boat trailers and F 250's, rented F 250's and flat trailers with a cradle, a container chassis with cradle, via rail, or ship?
So far tend to go for a one way, drive it myself, with a F 250 renter and trailer with cradle, but comeup with blanks, which may be the way it is. I dont't anticipate any loading/ unloading complications, but the economical in between has me stumped. Before giving up thought this might be the place to get some ideas. I understand this might just be the way it is though. All inputs appreciated, Thanks, cbob
Have been checking out the purchase of an older, but sound wooden sloop in Mass. area and am trying to come up with an economical transport to Northern Calif. Boat truckers bid $2.00 to 1.15 a mile, do the math. Beam 8'2", Wt. #6000. I have plenty of time and have had suggesions of borrowed boat trailers and F 250's, rented F 250's and flat trailers with a cradle, a container chassis with cradle, via rail, or ship?
So far tend to go for a one way, drive it myself, with a F 250 renter and trailer with cradle, but comeup with blanks, which may be the way it is. I dont't anticipate any loading/ unloading complications, but the economical in between has me stumped. Before giving up thought this might be the place to get some ideas. I understand this might just be the way it is though. All inputs appreciated, Thanks, cbob
alteran
02-19-2004, 12:45 PM
Have you checked to see what it costs to go through the Panama canal? A nice shakedown cruise. smile.gif
alteran
02-19-2004, 12:45 PM
Have you checked to see what it costs to go through the Panama canal? A nice shakedown cruise. smile.gif
alteran
02-19-2004, 12:45 PM
Have you checked to see what it costs to go through the Panama canal? A nice shakedown cruise. smile.gif
rbgarr
02-19-2004, 01:14 PM
You might want to check with this guy, too. I don't know what his fees would be compared to the quotes you've gotten so far, nor do I have direct experience with his services.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2456537045&category=50072
rbgarr
02-19-2004, 01:14 PM
You might want to check with this guy, too. I don't know what his fees would be compared to the quotes you've gotten so far, nor do I have direct experience with his services.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2456537045&category=50072
rbgarr
02-19-2004, 01:14 PM
You might want to check with this guy, too. I don't know what his fees would be compared to the quotes you've gotten so far, nor do I have direct experience with his services.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2456537045&category=50072
Hi Cbob,
I moved my Nordic Folkboat (25ft, 5000lbs) 400 miles using a rented Chevy 2500HD and flatbed trailer. The move went pretty smoothly, but I kept it under 65. It turned out the brakes on the rented flatbed trailer didn't work, so that was a bit worrysome...
The folkboat was on a wooden cradle, which we braced and built up before the ride. It took a bit of doing (3 hours) to figure out how to lift up the whole thing and get it onto the flatbed, but we managed pretty well.
I rented the truck from Budget, and it was $80 per day. Locally they no longer rent these things, so I'm not sure how you would get the vehicle. Most of the bigger places won't rent "towing" vehicles.
Renting the trailer is probably the easy part.
Good luck...
Here is a picture of our rig...
http://www.morebutter.com/folkboatimages/patience/images/infrontofhouse.jpg
Hi Cbob,
I moved my Nordic Folkboat (25ft, 5000lbs) 400 miles using a rented Chevy 2500HD and flatbed trailer. The move went pretty smoothly, but I kept it under 65. It turned out the brakes on the rented flatbed trailer didn't work, so that was a bit worrysome...
The folkboat was on a wooden cradle, which we braced and built up before the ride. It took a bit of doing (3 hours) to figure out how to lift up the whole thing and get it onto the flatbed, but we managed pretty well.
I rented the truck from Budget, and it was $80 per day. Locally they no longer rent these things, so I'm not sure how you would get the vehicle. Most of the bigger places won't rent "towing" vehicles.
Renting the trailer is probably the easy part.
Good luck...
Here is a picture of our rig...
http://www.morebutter.com/folkboatimages/patience/images/infrontofhouse.jpg
Hi Cbob,
I moved my Nordic Folkboat (25ft, 5000lbs) 400 miles using a rented Chevy 2500HD and flatbed trailer. The move went pretty smoothly, but I kept it under 65. It turned out the brakes on the rented flatbed trailer didn't work, so that was a bit worrysome...
The folkboat was on a wooden cradle, which we braced and built up before the ride. It took a bit of doing (3 hours) to figure out how to lift up the whole thing and get it onto the flatbed, but we managed pretty well.
I rented the truck from Budget, and it was $80 per day. Locally they no longer rent these things, so I'm not sure how you would get the vehicle. Most of the bigger places won't rent "towing" vehicles.
Renting the trailer is probably the easy part.
Good luck...
Here is a picture of our rig...
http://www.morebutter.com/folkboatimages/patience/images/infrontofhouse.jpg
George Roberts
02-19-2004, 03:31 PM
cbob ---
You might buy a used truck (and sell it after the tow) and rent a trailer.
George Roberts
02-19-2004, 03:31 PM
cbob ---
You might buy a used truck (and sell it after the tow) and rent a trailer.
George Roberts
02-19-2004, 03:31 PM
cbob ---
You might buy a used truck (and sell it after the tow) and rent a trailer.
Thanks all. Sent an email to the suggested EBay mover, with my phone number.
The Panama Canal's a piece of cake, BTDT, it's the down and back thats the tough part, used to take ten-twelve days, intercoastal, at 17 knots, thats why I mentioned moving it on a ship, which at one time was somewhat common, cradle on deck etc.
Already checked on the net with Avis, Hertz, Budget, Penske etc. and don't seem to find 3/4 tonners available, just cars and various size "box trucks". if there were, there would probably be restrictions re towing as indicated.
Buying used Northeast trucks for resale on the West coast, have the cloud of having exposure to rusting elements, then insurance, sales tax, commissions, but very far from giving up on this. Thanks all. cbob
Thanks all. Sent an email to the suggested EBay mover, with my phone number.
The Panama Canal's a piece of cake, BTDT, it's the down and back thats the tough part, used to take ten-twelve days, intercoastal, at 17 knots, thats why I mentioned moving it on a ship, which at one time was somewhat common, cradle on deck etc.
Already checked on the net with Avis, Hertz, Budget, Penske etc. and don't seem to find 3/4 tonners available, just cars and various size "box trucks". if there were, there would probably be restrictions re towing as indicated.
Buying used Northeast trucks for resale on the West coast, have the cloud of having exposure to rusting elements, then insurance, sales tax, commissions, but very far from giving up on this. Thanks all. cbob
Thanks all. Sent an email to the suggested EBay mover, with my phone number.
The Panama Canal's a piece of cake, BTDT, it's the down and back thats the tough part, used to take ten-twelve days, intercoastal, at 17 knots, thats why I mentioned moving it on a ship, which at one time was somewhat common, cradle on deck etc.
Already checked on the net with Avis, Hertz, Budget, Penske etc. and don't seem to find 3/4 tonners available, just cars and various size "box trucks". if there were, there would probably be restrictions re towing as indicated.
Buying used Northeast trucks for resale on the West coast, have the cloud of having exposure to rusting elements, then insurance, sales tax, commissions, but very far from giving up on this. Thanks all. cbob
You may want to check with west coast builders. There is a possibility that one of them will be delivering a boat to the east coast and dead-heading back. Sometimes a "sweetheart" deal that splits the trucker's deadhead rate between you and the boat company can be had.
You may want to check with west coast builders. There is a possibility that one of them will be delivering a boat to the east coast and dead-heading back. Sometimes a "sweetheart" deal that splits the trucker's deadhead rate between you and the boat company can be had.
You may want to check with west coast builders. There is a possibility that one of them will be delivering a boat to the east coast and dead-heading back. Sometimes a "sweetheart" deal that splits the trucker's deadhead rate between you and the boat company can be had.
Paul Scheuer
02-19-2004, 07:27 PM
Every time I check on one way truck rentals it comes out about the same as out and back. If you're flexible on the timing, you may be able to advertise locally and find someone with a complimentary problem that would be willing to split the deal. It wouldn't necessarily have to be a boat, would it ? Let us know what you come up with.
Paul Scheuer
02-19-2004, 07:27 PM
Every time I check on one way truck rentals it comes out about the same as out and back. If you're flexible on the timing, you may be able to advertise locally and find someone with a complimentary problem that would be willing to split the deal. It wouldn't necessarily have to be a boat, would it ? Let us know what you come up with.
Paul Scheuer
02-19-2004, 07:27 PM
Every time I check on one way truck rentals it comes out about the same as out and back. If you're flexible on the timing, you may be able to advertise locally and find someone with a complimentary problem that would be willing to split the deal. It wouldn't necessarily have to be a boat, would it ? Let us know what you come up with.
raycon
03-01-2004, 08:50 AM
http://www.ytmag.com
has a hauling section might want to post - search there.
raycon
03-01-2004, 08:50 AM
http://www.ytmag.com
has a hauling section might want to post - search there.
raycon
03-01-2004, 08:50 AM
http://www.ytmag.com
has a hauling section might want to post - search there.
WWheeler
03-01-2004, 12:47 PM
how about container shipment, via rail? A standard container is 40'. The trick is to slide her inside.
WWheeler
03-01-2004, 12:47 PM
how about container shipment, via rail? A standard container is 40'. The trick is to slide her inside.
WWheeler
03-01-2004, 12:47 PM
how about container shipment, via rail? A standard container is 40'. The trick is to slide her inside.
Venchka
03-01-2004, 11:52 PM
Since we're all sort of grasping at straws here, try this:
U-Haul rents 17' Ford F-350 chassis diesel moving trucks. They have decent looking hitches on them for pulling U-Haul's big trailers or car haulers. They get about 12 mpg on the flat at 65-70 mph too. Ask for a one-way quote. Tell them your moving west. Ask if it's ok to tow your boat as part of your "move". You could put a lot of the sloop's gear in the truck and reduce the weight on the trailer.
Venchka
03-01-2004, 11:52 PM
Since we're all sort of grasping at straws here, try this:
U-Haul rents 17' Ford F-350 chassis diesel moving trucks. They have decent looking hitches on them for pulling U-Haul's big trailers or car haulers. They get about 12 mpg on the flat at 65-70 mph too. Ask for a one-way quote. Tell them your moving west. Ask if it's ok to tow your boat as part of your "move". You could put a lot of the sloop's gear in the truck and reduce the weight on the trailer.
Venchka
03-01-2004, 11:52 PM
Since we're all sort of grasping at straws here, try this:
U-Haul rents 17' Ford F-350 chassis diesel moving trucks. They have decent looking hitches on them for pulling U-Haul's big trailers or car haulers. They get about 12 mpg on the flat at 65-70 mph too. Ask for a one-way quote. Tell them your moving west. Ask if it's ok to tow your boat as part of your "move". You could put a lot of the sloop's gear in the truck and reduce the weight on the trailer.
I would consider an ocean trip in a container. It might be a lot easier on an old wood boat than bouncing it over 3000 miles of road, and maybe cheaper.
I would consider an ocean trip in a container. It might be a lot easier on an old wood boat than bouncing it over 3000 miles of road, and maybe cheaper.
I would consider an ocean trip in a container. It might be a lot easier on an old wood boat than bouncing it over 3000 miles of road, and maybe cheaper.
Originally posted by ahp:
I would consider an ocean trip in a container. It might be a lot easier on an old wood boat than bouncing it over 3000 miles of road, and maybe cheaper.Let us know what you find out. I will probably eventually be buying a sailboat from the Maine area and need it shipped to Washington. ......Or I may end up taking the longest Dark Harbor 17 cruise in history. :D
Originally posted by ahp:
I would consider an ocean trip in a container. It might be a lot easier on an old wood boat than bouncing it over 3000 miles of road, and maybe cheaper.Let us know what you find out. I will probably eventually be buying a sailboat from the Maine area and need it shipped to Washington. ......Or I may end up taking the longest Dark Harbor 17 cruise in history. :D
Originally posted by ahp:
I would consider an ocean trip in a container. It might be a lot easier on an old wood boat than bouncing it over 3000 miles of road, and maybe cheaper.Let us know what you find out. I will probably eventually be buying a sailboat from the Maine area and need it shipped to Washington. ......Or I may end up taking the longest Dark Harbor 17 cruise in history. :D
Thanks all, got a fiew bites since puting this up. The best, about 0.70 per mile from an outfit with a fellow named Jim in Maine, on Ebay, if I act within a month, don't know if it's cool to put his E mail here. I have it though. Anyway, have decided it's too close to the summer to do this. I'm rethinking this project, and will put it on hold till Summer's end. Again, Thanks all. BTW a U Haul truck quote was in the 1.50 per mile area, and the container (ship or rail) folks keep moving me to one department to the next, and no one has a clue what I'm talking about. I know how that goes, I put in 15 Years with SeaLand Service. cbob
Thanks all, got a fiew bites since puting this up. The best, about 0.70 per mile from an outfit with a fellow named Jim in Maine, on Ebay, if I act within a month, don't know if it's cool to put his E mail here. I have it though. Anyway, have decided it's too close to the summer to do this. I'm rethinking this project, and will put it on hold till Summer's end. Again, Thanks all. BTW a U Haul truck quote was in the 1.50 per mile area, and the container (ship or rail) folks keep moving me to one department to the next, and no one has a clue what I'm talking about. I know how that goes, I put in 15 Years with SeaLand Service. cbob
Thanks all, got a fiew bites since puting this up. The best, about 0.70 per mile from an outfit with a fellow named Jim in Maine, on Ebay, if I act within a month, don't know if it's cool to put his E mail here. I have it though. Anyway, have decided it's too close to the summer to do this. I'm rethinking this project, and will put it on hold till Summer's end. Again, Thanks all. BTW a U Haul truck quote was in the 1.50 per mile area, and the container (ship or rail) folks keep moving me to one department to the next, and no one has a clue what I'm talking about. I know how that goes, I put in 15 Years with SeaLand Service. cbob
Venchka
03-03-2004, 01:03 PM
Originally posted by cbob:
... Beam 8'2", Wt. #6000.
Thanks, cbob
Container shipping won't work. Inside dimension of a container is 7'-8". Bummer.
Venchka
03-03-2004, 01:03 PM
Originally posted by cbob:
... Beam 8'2", Wt. #6000.
Thanks, cbob
Container shipping won't work. Inside dimension of a container is 7'-8". Bummer.
Venchka
03-03-2004, 01:03 PM
Originally posted by cbob:
... Beam 8'2", Wt. #6000.
Thanks, cbob
Container shipping won't work. Inside dimension of a container is 7'-8". Bummer.
Ven, They have all kinds of containers, but I think it's possible to do something like this with a container called a flat rack. With special handling,ie the top row, outside next to somthing narrower than 8 ft., computerized stowage plans, etc. I used to see all kinds of strange loads going between Alaska and Seattle/Tacoma. Sometimes the top rows were pretty jagged. I think the chances for accident misadventure are rather high, compared to a boat mover, however. Container yards are really scary places to the uniniated. And rail cars can take 12 ft. too. Thanks, cbob
Ven, They have all kinds of containers, but I think it's possible to do something like this with a container called a flat rack. With special handling,ie the top row, outside next to somthing narrower than 8 ft., computerized stowage plans, etc. I used to see all kinds of strange loads going between Alaska and Seattle/Tacoma. Sometimes the top rows were pretty jagged. I think the chances for accident misadventure are rather high, compared to a boat mover, however. Container yards are really scary places to the uniniated. And rail cars can take 12 ft. too. Thanks, cbob
Ven, They have all kinds of containers, but I think it's possible to do something like this with a container called a flat rack. With special handling,ie the top row, outside next to somthing narrower than 8 ft., computerized stowage plans, etc. I used to see all kinds of strange loads going between Alaska and Seattle/Tacoma. Sometimes the top rows were pretty jagged. I think the chances for accident misadventure are rather high, compared to a boat mover, however. Container yards are really scary places to the uniniated. And rail cars can take 12 ft. too. Thanks, cbob
Venchka
03-04-2004, 12:32 PM
No doubt you know better. We happen to have about 2 dozen standard containers in the yard. I was down at that end of the yard the other day checking on my boat. The doors were open on one of them so I measured it. As much for my own information as well as your problem. At least now we know what the inside dimension of a closed standard ocen going container is. I do know you can drive a Ford F-250 crew cab pickup in and out of one. That's how they ship them to the oil camps in West Africa. :D Iain Oughtred's Eun Mara will fit in a container too. :D
Venchka
03-04-2004, 12:32 PM
No doubt you know better. We happen to have about 2 dozen standard containers in the yard. I was down at that end of the yard the other day checking on my boat. The doors were open on one of them so I measured it. As much for my own information as well as your problem. At least now we know what the inside dimension of a closed standard ocen going container is. I do know you can drive a Ford F-250 crew cab pickup in and out of one. That's how they ship them to the oil camps in West Africa. :D Iain Oughtred's Eun Mara will fit in a container too. :D
Venchka
03-04-2004, 12:32 PM
No doubt you know better. We happen to have about 2 dozen standard containers in the yard. I was down at that end of the yard the other day checking on my boat. The doors were open on one of them so I measured it. As much for my own information as well as your problem. At least now we know what the inside dimension of a closed standard ocen going container is. I do know you can drive a Ford F-250 crew cab pickup in and out of one. That's how they ship them to the oil camps in West Africa. :D Iain Oughtred's Eun Mara will fit in a container too. :D
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