Pintles and gudgeons for Maryland Crabbing Skiff

[red baron]

Hi, all:

I'm building a 20, Reuel Parker-designed Maryland Crabbing Skiff. The boat is double-ended and I can't find suitable bronze pintles and gudgeons to mount the rudder on the sternpost. I've tried Bristol Bronze, but their merchandise is prohibitively expensive.

I also tried buying silicon bronze strap, tube and rod to have these items fabricated, but have not found anyone to date who sells it in the small quantities that I need - approximately 3' of 1 1/2" x 3/16" strap, about 12" of 7/16" rod and 18" of 1/2" tube. Atlas Metals in Denver has these materials but only sells in 6' lenghts at minimum.

Can anyone help?

Thanks.

[red baron]

Hi, all:

I'm building a 20, Reuel Parker-designed Maryland Crabbing Skiff. The boat is double-ended and I can't find suitable bronze pintles and gudgeons to mount the rudder on the sternpost. I've tried Bristol Bronze, but their merchandise is prohibitively expensive.

I also tried buying silicon bronze strap, tube and rod to have these items fabricated, but have not found anyone to date who sells it in the small quantities that I need - approximately 3' of 1 1/2" x 3/16" strap, about 12" of 7/16" rod and 18" of 1/2" tube. Atlas Metals in Denver has these materials but only sells in 6' lenghts at minimum.

Can anyone help?

Thanks.

[red baron]

Hi, all:

I'm building a 20, Reuel Parker-designed Maryland Crabbing Skiff. The boat is double-ended and I can't find suitable bronze pintles and gudgeons to mount the rudder on the sternpost. I've tried Bristol Bronze, but their merchandise is prohibitively expensive.

I also tried buying silicon bronze strap, tube and rod to have these items fabricated, but have not found anyone to date who sells it in the small quantities that I need - approximately 3' of 1 1/2" x 3/16" strap, about 12" of 7/16" rod and 18" of 1/2" tube. Atlas Metals in Denver has these materials but only sells in 6' lenghts at minimum.

Can anyone help?

Thanks.

[Mike Vogdes]

Jamestown distributors may be able to help.

[Mike Vogdes]

Jamestown distributors may be able to help.

[Mike Vogdes]

Jamestown distributors may be able to help.

[red baron]

Hi, Mike:

I've gotten most of my materials for the boat from Jamestown: epoxies, fasteners, paint, etc. Unfortunately, while they have the rod that I need, they don't have the tube and strap.

[red baron]

Hi, Mike:

I've gotten most of my materials for the boat from Jamestown: epoxies, fasteners, paint, etc. Unfortunately, while they have the rod that I need, they don't have the tube and strap.

[red baron]

Hi, Mike:

I've gotten most of my materials for the boat from Jamestown: epoxies, fasteners, paint, etc. Unfortunately, while they have the rod that I need, they don't have the tube and strap.

[Bob Smalser]

McMaster Carr on the East Coast and Alaska Copper on the West.

[Bob Smalser]

McMaster Carr on the East Coast and Alaska Copper on the West.

[Bob Smalser]

McMaster Carr on the East Coast and Alaska Copper on the West.

[StevenBauer]

I know they aren't cheap with the exchange rate and shipping but have you looked at Classic Marine. www.classicmarine.co.uk (http://www.classicmarine.co.uk)

Steven

[StevenBauer]

I know they aren't cheap with the exchange rate and shipping but have you looked at Classic Marine. www.classicmarine.co.uk (http://www.classicmarine.co.uk)

Steven

[StevenBauer]

I know they aren't cheap with the exchange rate and shipping but have you looked at Classic Marine. www.classicmarine.co.uk (http://www.classicmarine.co.uk)

Steven

[StevenBauer]

I just looked, actually not that bad:

http://www.classicmarine.co.uk/images_products/423.jpg

10.41 Pounds for this gudgeon

Pintle looks like 19.55

So I guess with exchange rates and shipping your probably around $100.

Steven

[StevenBauer]

I just looked, actually not that bad:

http://www.classicmarine.co.uk/images_products/423.jpg

10.41 Pounds for this gudgeon

Pintle looks like 19.55

So I guess with exchange rates and shipping your probably around $100.

Steven

[StevenBauer]

I just looked, actually not that bad:

http://www.classicmarine.co.uk/images_products/423.jpg

10.41 Pounds for this gudgeon

Pintle looks like 19.55

So I guess with exchange rates and shipping your probably around $100.

Steven

[Dave Lesser]

Here are some pintles on eBay:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/VINTAGE-NAUTICAL-WOOD-RUDDER-BRONZE-HARDWARE-POND-BOAT_W0QQitemZ4588520110QQcategoryZ3128 3QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Current bid $9.95. Auction closes in 12 hours.

[Dave Lesser]

Here are some pintles on eBay:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/VINTAGE-NAUTICAL-WOOD-RUDDER-BRONZE-HARDWARE-POND-BOAT_W0QQitemZ4588520110QQcategoryZ3128 3QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Current bid $9.95. Auction closes in 12 hours.

[Dave Lesser]

Here are some pintles on eBay:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/VINTAGE-NAUTICAL-WOOD-RUDDER-BRONZE-HARDWARE-POND-BOAT_W0QQitemZ4588520110QQcategoryZ3128 3QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Current bid $9.95. Auction closes in 12 hours.

[Bob Smalser]

Originally posted by Bob Smalser:
McMaster Carr on the East Coast and Alaska Copper on the West.If you can silver braze, making your own is much more satisfying.

But check with Port Townsend Foundry before sending for anything overseas. They are reasonable, and have a pattern for almost anything.

[Bob Smalser]

Originally posted by Bob Smalser:
McMaster Carr on the East Coast and Alaska Copper on the West.If you can silver braze, making your own is much more satisfying.

But check with Port Townsend Foundry before sending for anything overseas. They are reasonable, and have a pattern for almost anything.

[Bob Smalser]

Originally posted by Bob Smalser:
McMaster Carr on the East Coast and Alaska Copper on the West.If you can silver braze, making your own is much more satisfying.

But check with Port Townsend Foundry before sending for anything overseas. They are reasonable, and have a pattern for almost anything.

[kc8pql]

Originally posted by red baron:
Hi, all:

I need - approximately 3' of 1 1/2" x 3/16" strap, about 12" of 7/16" rod and 18" of 1/2" tube. Atlas Metals in Denver has these materials but only sells in 6' lenghts at minimum.Here's what I'd do. Get the 7/16" rod from Jamestown, and 18" of 3/4" rod. Go ahead and get the 6'length of 3/16" strap from Atlas. Having some extra bronze around is a good thing (mastbands ect). Cut the 3/4" rod to the lengths you need and drill a 1/2" hole thru them with a drill press, of take them to a local machine shop and have them bore them on a lathe.

[kc8pql]

Originally posted by red baron:
Hi, all:

I need - approximately 3' of 1 1/2" x 3/16" strap, about 12" of 7/16" rod and 18" of 1/2" tube. Atlas Metals in Denver has these materials but only sells in 6' lenghts at minimum.Here's what I'd do. Get the 7/16" rod from Jamestown, and 18" of 3/4" rod. Go ahead and get the 6'length of 3/16" strap from Atlas. Having some extra bronze around is a good thing (mastbands ect). Cut the 3/4" rod to the lengths you need and drill a 1/2" hole thru them with a drill press, of take them to a local machine shop and have them bore them on a lathe.

[kc8pql]

Originally posted by red baron:
Hi, all:

I need - approximately 3' of 1 1/2" x 3/16" strap, about 12" of 7/16" rod and 18" of 1/2" tube. Atlas Metals in Denver has these materials but only sells in 6' lenghts at minimum.Here's what I'd do. Get the 7/16" rod from Jamestown, and 18" of 3/4" rod. Go ahead and get the 6'length of 3/16" strap from Atlas. Having some extra bronze around is a good thing (mastbands ect). Cut the 3/4" rod to the lengths you need and drill a 1/2" hole thru them with a drill press, of take them to a local machine shop and have them bore them on a lathe.

[DougWilde]

Buy the largest pintle from Jamestown, cut off the pin and drill to convert to a gudgeon.

http://dbwilde.home.comcast.net/Williwaw/pintle2.jpg

Mount the usual way. I used bronze rod to pin mine in place.

http://dbwilde.home.comcast.net/Williwaw/images/gudgeon1.jpg

When I needed a couple feet of silicon bronze strapping for backing plates I called Atlas. The very helpful salesman looked in the scrap or cut-off bin and found a piece for me. It was a little funky here or there, but quite usable.

Doug Wilde

[DougWilde]

Buy the largest pintle from Jamestown, cut off the pin and drill to convert to a gudgeon.

http://dbwilde.home.comcast.net/Williwaw/pintle2.jpg

Mount the usual way. I used bronze rod to pin mine in place.

http://dbwilde.home.comcast.net/Williwaw/images/gudgeon1.jpg

When I needed a couple feet of silicon bronze strapping for backing plates I called Atlas. The very helpful salesman looked in the scrap or cut-off bin and found a piece for me. It was a little funky here or there, but quite usable.

Doug Wilde

[DougWilde]

Buy the largest pintle from Jamestown, cut off the pin and drill to convert to a gudgeon.

http://dbwilde.home.comcast.net/Williwaw/pintle2.jpg

Mount the usual way. I used bronze rod to pin mine in place.

http://dbwilde.home.comcast.net/Williwaw/images/gudgeon1.jpg

When I needed a couple feet of silicon bronze strapping for backing plates I called Atlas. The very helpful salesman looked in the scrap or cut-off bin and found a piece for me. It was a little funky here or there, but quite usable.

Doug Wilde