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Ross M
07-08-2005, 10:58 PM
Where is the sweet spot?
Ross
Ross M
07-08-2005, 10:58 PM
Where is the sweet spot?
Ross
Ross M
07-08-2005, 10:58 PM
Where is the sweet spot?
Ross
Ron Williamson
07-09-2005, 06:48 AM
kinda cryptic
Ron Williamson
07-09-2005, 06:48 AM
kinda cryptic
Ron Williamson
07-09-2005, 06:48 AM
kinda cryptic
Ross M
07-09-2005, 11:47 AM
Sorrry about that, Ron.
I find with most products there is a certain amount of money above which little is gained and below which much is lost. I refer to this point as the "sweet spot".
I am in the mood for a smallish drill press and am soliciting advise and/or links...
Ross
Ross M
07-09-2005, 11:47 AM
Sorrry about that, Ron.
I find with most products there is a certain amount of money above which little is gained and below which much is lost. I refer to this point as the "sweet spot".
I am in the mood for a smallish drill press and am soliciting advise and/or links...
Ross
Ross M
07-09-2005, 11:47 AM
Sorrry about that, Ron.
I find with most products there is a certain amount of money above which little is gained and below which much is lost. I refer to this point as the "sweet spot".
I am in the mood for a smallish drill press and am soliciting advise and/or links...
Ross
Dave Fleming
07-09-2005, 12:12 PM
For run of the mill stuff I bought one of those Delta Chiwan 12 inch variable speed bench top models.
I went through 3 heads ( warranty of course) before I got one with barely acceptable runout at the chuck.
Chuck was fine as I had it checked at my 'frinedly neighborhood machine shop'.
It is the spindle that is off.
BUT, for $150 USD out the door I did not expect to be getting a Clausing quality machine.
Used it quite a bit from making plugs to drilling 1/4 inch steel plate with no problems.
Wouldn't recommend you use it to enlarge the jet size in a carbourator though. ;)
Dave Fleming
07-09-2005, 12:12 PM
For run of the mill stuff I bought one of those Delta Chiwan 12 inch variable speed bench top models.
I went through 3 heads ( warranty of course) before I got one with barely acceptable runout at the chuck.
Chuck was fine as I had it checked at my 'frinedly neighborhood machine shop'.
It is the spindle that is off.
BUT, for $150 USD out the door I did not expect to be getting a Clausing quality machine.
Used it quite a bit from making plugs to drilling 1/4 inch steel plate with no problems.
Wouldn't recommend you use it to enlarge the jet size in a carbourator though. ;)
Dave Fleming
07-09-2005, 12:12 PM
For run of the mill stuff I bought one of those Delta Chiwan 12 inch variable speed bench top models.
I went through 3 heads ( warranty of course) before I got one with barely acceptable runout at the chuck.
Chuck was fine as I had it checked at my 'frinedly neighborhood machine shop'.
It is the spindle that is off.
BUT, for $150 USD out the door I did not expect to be getting a Clausing quality machine.
Used it quite a bit from making plugs to drilling 1/4 inch steel plate with no problems.
Wouldn't recommend you use it to enlarge the jet size in a carbourator though. ;)
Ross M
07-09-2005, 12:47 PM
Thank you, Dave.
What can you say for the spindle bearings - are they relatively quiet at high speed or screaming monsters?
Ross
Ross M
07-09-2005, 12:47 PM
Thank you, Dave.
What can you say for the spindle bearings - are they relatively quiet at high speed or screaming monsters?
Ross
Ross M
07-09-2005, 12:47 PM
Thank you, Dave.
What can you say for the spindle bearings - are they relatively quiet at high speed or screaming monsters?
Ross
Bob Smalser
07-09-2005, 01:00 PM
Get a good machine if you want good bearings. Mine's an older Rockwell-Delta radial arm in cast iron I wouldn't trade for any new one out there.
http://www.northwestpowertools.com/drillpress/w1669.htm
For a woodworker, the radial arm press does so much more than the others it's well worth it.
http://www.northwestpowertools.com/drillpress/w1669.jpg
Bob Smalser
07-09-2005, 01:00 PM
Get a good machine if you want good bearings. Mine's an older Rockwell-Delta radial arm in cast iron I wouldn't trade for any new one out there.
http://www.northwestpowertools.com/drillpress/w1669.htm
For a woodworker, the radial arm press does so much more than the others it's well worth it.
http://www.northwestpowertools.com/drillpress/w1669.jpg
Bob Smalser
07-09-2005, 01:00 PM
Get a good machine if you want good bearings. Mine's an older Rockwell-Delta radial arm in cast iron I wouldn't trade for any new one out there.
http://www.northwestpowertools.com/drillpress/w1669.htm
For a woodworker, the radial arm press does so much more than the others it's well worth it.
http://www.northwestpowertools.com/drillpress/w1669.jpg
Dave Fleming
07-09-2005, 01:12 PM
What can you say for the spindle bearings - are they relatively quiet at high speed or screaming monsters?
Tolerable.
Dave Fleming
07-09-2005, 01:12 PM
What can you say for the spindle bearings - are they relatively quiet at high speed or screaming monsters?
Tolerable.
Dave Fleming
07-09-2005, 01:12 PM
What can you say for the spindle bearings - are they relatively quiet at high speed or screaming monsters?
Tolerable.
Dave Fleming
07-09-2005, 01:24 PM
For a woodworker, the radial arm press does so much more than the others it's well worth it.http://pic4.picturetrail.com/VOL780/3097474/6292566/103835358.jpg
I can dream can't I? ;)
Dave Fleming
07-09-2005, 01:24 PM
For a woodworker, the radial arm press does so much more than the others it's well worth it.http://pic4.picturetrail.com/VOL780/3097474/6292566/103835358.jpg
I can dream can't I? ;)
Dave Fleming
07-09-2005, 01:24 PM
For a woodworker, the radial arm press does so much more than the others it's well worth it.http://pic4.picturetrail.com/VOL780/3097474/6292566/103835358.jpg
I can dream can't I? ;)
Bob Smalser
07-09-2005, 01:51 PM
OK, OK....I'd trade mine for that one, Dave. ;)
'Cept where does the head rotate? Looks like a milling machine except the head and chuck are a bit light.
[ 07-09-2005, 02:11 PM: Message edited by: Bob Smalser ]
Bob Smalser
07-09-2005, 01:51 PM
OK, OK....I'd trade mine for that one, Dave. ;)
'Cept where does the head rotate? Looks like a milling machine except the head and chuck are a bit light.
[ 07-09-2005, 02:11 PM: Message edited by: Bob Smalser ]
Bob Smalser
07-09-2005, 01:51 PM
OK, OK....I'd trade mine for that one, Dave. ;)
'Cept where does the head rotate? Looks like a milling machine except the head and chuck are a bit light.
[ 07-09-2005, 02:11 PM: Message edited by: Bob Smalser ]
Paul Girouard
07-09-2005, 02:18 PM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Bob Smalser:
[QB]Get a good machine if you want good bearings. Mine's an older Rockwell-Delta radial arm in cast iron I wouldn't trade for any new one out there.
So I think your still safe. I doubt the one Dave posted is a "new model". Looks vintage / restored but not "new". Nice drill press Dave :D HTBH ;) PEG
Wouldn't the handle just below the open door to the drive belt be the head till handle ?
[ 07-09-2005, 02:20 PM: Message edited by: Paul Girouard ]
Paul Girouard
07-09-2005, 02:18 PM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Bob Smalser:
[QB]Get a good machine if you want good bearings. Mine's an older Rockwell-Delta radial arm in cast iron I wouldn't trade for any new one out there.
So I think your still safe. I doubt the one Dave posted is a "new model". Looks vintage / restored but not "new". Nice drill press Dave :D HTBH ;) PEG
Wouldn't the handle just below the open door to the drive belt be the head till handle ?
[ 07-09-2005, 02:20 PM: Message edited by: Paul Girouard ]
Paul Girouard
07-09-2005, 02:18 PM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Bob Smalser:
[QB]Get a good machine if you want good bearings. Mine's an older Rockwell-Delta radial arm in cast iron I wouldn't trade for any new one out there.
So I think your still safe. I doubt the one Dave posted is a "new model". Looks vintage / restored but not "new". Nice drill press Dave :D HTBH ;) PEG
Wouldn't the handle just below the open door to the drive belt be the head till handle ?
[ 07-09-2005, 02:20 PM: Message edited by: Paul Girouard ]
Dave Fleming
07-09-2005, 02:34 PM
Good Old Arhn.
Walker Turner Radial Drill Press lovingly restored. Not mine sad to say.
Similar dovetailed ram assembly was used by WT on their Radial Arm Saws.
http://pic4.picturetrail.com/VOL780/3097474/6292566/103843344.jpg
Both types do come up every so often on ebay but, I am afeered the cost of shipping of one from a distant point would be pretty steep.
Dave Fleming
07-09-2005, 02:34 PM
Good Old Arhn.
Walker Turner Radial Drill Press lovingly restored. Not mine sad to say.
Similar dovetailed ram assembly was used by WT on their Radial Arm Saws.
http://pic4.picturetrail.com/VOL780/3097474/6292566/103843344.jpg
Both types do come up every so often on ebay but, I am afeered the cost of shipping of one from a distant point would be pretty steep.
Dave Fleming
07-09-2005, 02:34 PM
Good Old Arhn.
Walker Turner Radial Drill Press lovingly restored. Not mine sad to say.
Similar dovetailed ram assembly was used by WT on their Radial Arm Saws.
http://pic4.picturetrail.com/VOL780/3097474/6292566/103843344.jpg
Both types do come up every so often on ebay but, I am afeered the cost of shipping of one from a distant point would be pretty steep.
Dave Fleming
07-09-2005, 02:44 PM
Drill presses make lousy Milling Machines.
The spindles are not meant to take the high radial loads put on them.
Compare that photo with one of a Bridgeport and you will see what I mean.
Also the bearings are not likely to be the same precision grade as in a true milling machine.
Here is a better photo of the head tilting mechanism.
http://pic4.picturetrail.com/VOL780/3097474/6292566/103844280.jpg
Dave Fleming
07-09-2005, 02:44 PM
Drill presses make lousy Milling Machines.
The spindles are not meant to take the high radial loads put on them.
Compare that photo with one of a Bridgeport and you will see what I mean.
Also the bearings are not likely to be the same precision grade as in a true milling machine.
Here is a better photo of the head tilting mechanism.
http://pic4.picturetrail.com/VOL780/3097474/6292566/103844280.jpg
Dave Fleming
07-09-2005, 02:44 PM
Drill presses make lousy Milling Machines.
The spindles are not meant to take the high radial loads put on them.
Compare that photo with one of a Bridgeport and you will see what I mean.
Also the bearings are not likely to be the same precision grade as in a true milling machine.
Here is a better photo of the head tilting mechanism.
http://pic4.picturetrail.com/VOL780/3097474/6292566/103844280.jpg
Bob Smalser
07-09-2005, 03:16 PM
I see it.
Nice machine.
Bob Smalser
07-09-2005, 03:16 PM
I see it.
Nice machine.
Bob Smalser
07-09-2005, 03:16 PM
I see it.
Nice machine.
Bob Cleek
07-09-2005, 06:25 PM
Keep an eye on the "tools" for sale section of craigslist.org. They often have somebody offering stationary power tools at very reasonable prices. You can sometimes find some of the old 1950's Craftsman drill presses, solid iron, for peanuts.
Bob Cleek
07-09-2005, 06:25 PM
Keep an eye on the "tools" for sale section of craigslist.org. They often have somebody offering stationary power tools at very reasonable prices. You can sometimes find some of the old 1950's Craftsman drill presses, solid iron, for peanuts.
Bob Cleek
07-09-2005, 06:25 PM
Keep an eye on the "tools" for sale section of craigslist.org. They often have somebody offering stationary power tools at very reasonable prices. You can sometimes find some of the old 1950's Craftsman drill presses, solid iron, for peanuts.
pipefitter
07-09-2005, 07:09 PM
We have a drill press at our shop that is very old and all the bits came with it in a wooden box. All morse taper bits and there is an adapter that fits in to the chuck that accepts the smaller morse bits but I can't recall the name of it.It has bits upwards of 2" though. Quite an amazing machine for a drill press.My boss found this at a yard sale for 200.00. The old man that owned it cried as it was leaving. Seems he had bought it new many yrs ago. He was over 80 yrs old and had been hurting himself with it so his wife made him sell it. Still with every single bit that it came with.
pipefitter
07-09-2005, 07:09 PM
We have a drill press at our shop that is very old and all the bits came with it in a wooden box. All morse taper bits and there is an adapter that fits in to the chuck that accepts the smaller morse bits but I can't recall the name of it.It has bits upwards of 2" though. Quite an amazing machine for a drill press.My boss found this at a yard sale for 200.00. The old man that owned it cried as it was leaving. Seems he had bought it new many yrs ago. He was over 80 yrs old and had been hurting himself with it so his wife made him sell it. Still with every single bit that it came with.
pipefitter
07-09-2005, 07:09 PM
We have a drill press at our shop that is very old and all the bits came with it in a wooden box. All morse taper bits and there is an adapter that fits in to the chuck that accepts the smaller morse bits but I can't recall the name of it.It has bits upwards of 2" though. Quite an amazing machine for a drill press.My boss found this at a yard sale for 200.00. The old man that owned it cried as it was leaving. Seems he had bought it new many yrs ago. He was over 80 yrs old and had been hurting himself with it so his wife made him sell it. Still with every single bit that it came with.
Paul Girouard
07-09-2005, 07:43 PM
That's a sad story :( :( I think that's how I'll be when they take my toys away as well. Poor old guy :( HTBH ;) PEG
Paul Girouard
07-09-2005, 07:43 PM
That's a sad story :( :( I think that's how I'll be when they take my toys away as well. Poor old guy :( HTBH ;) PEG
Paul Girouard
07-09-2005, 07:43 PM
That's a sad story :( :( I think that's how I'll be when they take my toys away as well. Poor old guy :( HTBH ;) PEG
Dave Fleming
07-09-2005, 08:09 PM
Well if'en ya are after one of those WT Radial Drill Presses here is one I found in ebay.
WT Radial Drill Press (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=12579&item=7529526473&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW)
Dave Fleming
07-09-2005, 08:09 PM
Well if'en ya are after one of those WT Radial Drill Presses here is one I found in ebay.
WT Radial Drill Press (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=12579&item=7529526473&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW)
Dave Fleming
07-09-2005, 08:09 PM
Well if'en ya are after one of those WT Radial Drill Presses here is one I found in ebay.
WT Radial Drill Press (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=12579&item=7529526473&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW)
Ross M
07-09-2005, 09:04 PM
"Drill presses make lousy Milling Machines."
Agreed - but Milling Machines make great Drill Presses!
Had not considered a radial drill. No room for that great looking WT, nor the near identical Rockwell!
Thanks for the input, Gents.
Ross
Ross M
07-09-2005, 09:04 PM
"Drill presses make lousy Milling Machines."
Agreed - but Milling Machines make great Drill Presses!
Had not considered a radial drill. No room for that great looking WT, nor the near identical Rockwell!
Thanks for the input, Gents.
Ross
Ross M
07-09-2005, 09:04 PM
"Drill presses make lousy Milling Machines."
Agreed - but Milling Machines make great Drill Presses!
Had not considered a radial drill. No room for that great looking WT, nor the near identical Rockwell!
Thanks for the input, Gents.
Ross
Hughman
07-09-2005, 10:37 PM
I'm refurbishing an Atlas drill press, made in the '40's. Still has good bearings, although it was allowed to rust a bit. The wiring and motor are.... original .
$40. solid old ahrn.
Hughman
07-09-2005, 10:37 PM
I'm refurbishing an Atlas drill press, made in the '40's. Still has good bearings, although it was allowed to rust a bit. The wiring and motor are.... original .
$40. solid old ahrn.
Hughman
07-09-2005, 10:37 PM
I'm refurbishing an Atlas drill press, made in the '40's. Still has good bearings, although it was allowed to rust a bit. The wiring and motor are.... original .
$40. solid old ahrn.
Stiletto
07-10-2005, 06:50 PM
The one that Bob posted the picture of surprised me with how reasonable the price was at $259 .
Stiletto
07-10-2005, 06:50 PM
The one that Bob posted the picture of surprised me with how reasonable the price was at $259 .
Stiletto
07-10-2005, 06:50 PM
The one that Bob posted the picture of surprised me with how reasonable the price was at $259 .
coelacanth
07-10-2005, 10:22 PM
I have a 12" Delta which I use for just about everything, including a bit of light grinding with some big carbide burrs- grinding denture acrylic for repairs, relines,etc.It hass also been useful with an auxilary table and a drum as a spindle sander. Drils well in wood , needs a centerpunch dimple or small pilot hole for metals. Definitely worth the 100.00 or so I paid for it. That said, Grizzly has a small radial arm drill that looks very nice for about 150.00 ...
coelacanth
07-10-2005, 10:22 PM
I have a 12" Delta which I use for just about everything, including a bit of light grinding with some big carbide burrs- grinding denture acrylic for repairs, relines,etc.It hass also been useful with an auxilary table and a drum as a spindle sander. Drils well in wood , needs a centerpunch dimple or small pilot hole for metals. Definitely worth the 100.00 or so I paid for it. That said, Grizzly has a small radial arm drill that looks very nice for about 150.00 ...
coelacanth
07-10-2005, 10:22 PM
I have a 12" Delta which I use for just about everything, including a bit of light grinding with some big carbide burrs- grinding denture acrylic for repairs, relines,etc.It hass also been useful with an auxilary table and a drum as a spindle sander. Drils well in wood , needs a centerpunch dimple or small pilot hole for metals. Definitely worth the 100.00 or so I paid for it. That said, Grizzly has a small radial arm drill that looks very nice for about 150.00 ...
Ric_Bergstrom
07-11-2005, 08:24 AM
MMM Machine tools...
One of my favortie spots in Richmond VA:
http://www.dempseyandco.com/
Used tools of all sorts and sizes.
Ric
Ric_Bergstrom
07-11-2005, 08:24 AM
MMM Machine tools...
One of my favortie spots in Richmond VA:
http://www.dempseyandco.com/
Used tools of all sorts and sizes.
Ric
Ric_Bergstrom
07-11-2005, 08:24 AM
MMM Machine tools...
One of my favortie spots in Richmond VA:
http://www.dempseyandco.com/
Used tools of all sorts and sizes.
Ric
capt jake
07-11-2005, 09:56 AM
I also have the Delta 12" model. Works great. I have a drum sander attachment and a mortising attachment that all work well with it.
That said, I wish I had bought a larger floor model with at least a 3/4" chuck. A floor model would be more versatile for those larger pieces. IMHO
capt jake
07-11-2005, 09:56 AM
I also have the Delta 12" model. Works great. I have a drum sander attachment and a mortising attachment that all work well with it.
That said, I wish I had bought a larger floor model with at least a 3/4" chuck. A floor model would be more versatile for those larger pieces. IMHO
capt jake
07-11-2005, 09:56 AM
I also have the Delta 12" model. Works great. I have a drum sander attachment and a mortising attachment that all work well with it.
That said, I wish I had bought a larger floor model with at least a 3/4" chuck. A floor model would be more versatile for those larger pieces. IMHO
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