Poplar

[Rocky]

No good for marine use, is that correct?

[Rocky]

No good for marine use, is that correct?

[Rocky]

No good for marine use, is that correct?

[ken mcclure]

Interiors could be ok if they're dry. Poplar is not very rot resistant. It also moves a lot with changes in moisture content.

[ken mcclure]

Interiors could be ok if they're dry. Poplar is not very rot resistant. It also moves a lot with changes in moisture content.

[ken mcclure]

Interiors could be ok if they're dry. Poplar is not very rot resistant. It also moves a lot with changes in moisture content.

[Peter Malcolm Jardine]

Beavers like it. That's about as close to marine as it gets.

[Peter Malcolm Jardine]

Beavers like it. That's about as close to marine as it gets.

[Peter Malcolm Jardine]

Beavers like it. That's about as close to marine as it gets.

[reddog]

Buster;
If you check the search function you will find there has been some past discussion on this matter with quite diverse opinions,right down to trying to decide what is a true poplar.
By the way the poplar around here rots quickly.The beaver do like it for food.
Earl
PS I believe our poplar is actually an aspen

[ 01-19-2003, 07:21 PM: Message edited by: reddog ]

[reddog]

Buster;
If you check the search function you will find there has been some past discussion on this matter with quite diverse opinions,right down to trying to decide what is a true poplar.
By the way the poplar around here rots quickly.The beaver do like it for food.
Earl
PS I believe our poplar is actually an aspen

[ 01-19-2003, 07:21 PM: Message edited by: reddog ]

[reddog]

Buster;
If you check the search function you will find there has been some past discussion on this matter with quite diverse opinions,right down to trying to decide what is a true poplar.
By the way the poplar around here rots quickly.The beaver do like it for food.
Earl
PS I believe our poplar is actually an aspen

[ 01-19-2003, 07:21 PM: Message edited by: reddog ]

[Armedmariner]

Originally posted by Buster:
No good for marine use, is that correct?Buster,

I live in West By Gosh Virginia. We have nothing but poplar here. I had a load of 2x4 and 2x6 green lumber stickered and stacked outside for over two years unprotected. I also had in that pile some pine and some oak. The pine was worthless after two years. The oak was discolored and it moved a lot. The poplar darkened a lot. I had the occasion to use some of it. I was building a fence rail system and in between posts I was framing in pressure treated lattice panels. I used the poplar for the "mullions" to hold the lattice in place. I planed that poplar from 5/4 thick to 7/8 thick and then ripped it to 7/8 giving me 7/8 x 7/8 cross section. I was amazed when I planed it, it cleaned up like a piece of lumber bought at Lowes. That framing has been in place for over two years now and it is still as good today as it was then and it seems to be as good as the pressure treat.

Would I build a boat out of it? I wouldn't build my hull with it but I would use it for trimmings for sure based on this experience.

The thing I don't like about poplar is that it doesn't have a good natural color in my opinion. It ranges from a yellowish green to a purplish color. I don't particularly like that.

The thing I like about poplar is that it is VERY machinable. I can work that stuff to a feather edge and even though it is supposedly a hardwood it acts more like softwood. Depending upon moisture content I have gotten away with driving sheet rock screws into it without predrilling.

I machined that pile of lumber into all my mouldings in my house using my router table. Took forever. Now it is all together and looks perfect. I painted it after caulking all the joints. Honestly, I get a lot of "oooh's and aahh's" on it. I made striated 1x4 verticals & horizontals around doors with Plinth Blocks and Rosettes and the base moulding is 1x6 and I routed a decorative edge on the top surface. It painted REALLY well. I used oil based primer and Lowe's best top paint. Stuff never moved on me. I'm happy. But that's INSIDE.

[Armedmariner]

Originally posted by Buster:
No good for marine use, is that correct?Buster,

I live in West By Gosh Virginia. We have nothing but poplar here. I had a load of 2x4 and 2x6 green lumber stickered and stacked outside for over two years unprotected. I also had in that pile some pine and some oak. The pine was worthless after two years. The oak was discolored and it moved a lot. The poplar darkened a lot. I had the occasion to use some of it. I was building a fence rail system and in between posts I was framing in pressure treated lattice panels. I used the poplar for the "mullions" to hold the lattice in place. I planed that poplar from 5/4 thick to 7/8 thick and then ripped it to 7/8 giving me 7/8 x 7/8 cross section. I was amazed when I planed it, it cleaned up like a piece of lumber bought at Lowes. That framing has been in place for over two years now and it is still as good today as it was then and it seems to be as good as the pressure treat.

Would I build a boat out of it? I wouldn't build my hull with it but I would use it for trimmings for sure based on this experience.

The thing I don't like about poplar is that it doesn't have a good natural color in my opinion. It ranges from a yellowish green to a purplish color. I don't particularly like that.

The thing I like about poplar is that it is VERY machinable. I can work that stuff to a feather edge and even though it is supposedly a hardwood it acts more like softwood. Depending upon moisture content I have gotten away with driving sheet rock screws into it without predrilling.

I machined that pile of lumber into all my mouldings in my house using my router table. Took forever. Now it is all together and looks perfect. I painted it after caulking all the joints. Honestly, I get a lot of "oooh's and aahh's" on it. I made striated 1x4 verticals & horizontals around doors with Plinth Blocks and Rosettes and the base moulding is 1x6 and I routed a decorative edge on the top surface. It painted REALLY well. I used oil based primer and Lowe's best top paint. Stuff never moved on me. I'm happy. But that's INSIDE.

[Armedmariner]

Originally posted by Buster:
No good for marine use, is that correct?Buster,

I live in West By Gosh Virginia. We have nothing but poplar here. I had a load of 2x4 and 2x6 green lumber stickered and stacked outside for over two years unprotected. I also had in that pile some pine and some oak. The pine was worthless after two years. The oak was discolored and it moved a lot. The poplar darkened a lot. I had the occasion to use some of it. I was building a fence rail system and in between posts I was framing in pressure treated lattice panels. I used the poplar for the "mullions" to hold the lattice in place. I planed that poplar from 5/4 thick to 7/8 thick and then ripped it to 7/8 giving me 7/8 x 7/8 cross section. I was amazed when I planed it, it cleaned up like a piece of lumber bought at Lowes. That framing has been in place for over two years now and it is still as good today as it was then and it seems to be as good as the pressure treat.

Would I build a boat out of it? I wouldn't build my hull with it but I would use it for trimmings for sure based on this experience.

The thing I don't like about poplar is that it doesn't have a good natural color in my opinion. It ranges from a yellowish green to a purplish color. I don't particularly like that.

The thing I like about poplar is that it is VERY machinable. I can work that stuff to a feather edge and even though it is supposedly a hardwood it acts more like softwood. Depending upon moisture content I have gotten away with driving sheet rock screws into it without predrilling.

I machined that pile of lumber into all my mouldings in my house using my router table. Took forever. Now it is all together and looks perfect. I painted it after caulking all the joints. Honestly, I get a lot of "oooh's and aahh's" on it. I made striated 1x4 verticals & horizontals around doors with Plinth Blocks and Rosettes and the base moulding is 1x6 and I routed a decorative edge on the top surface. It painted REALLY well. I used oil based primer and Lowe's best top paint. Stuff never moved on me. I'm happy. But that's INSIDE.

[swingking]

Seems that Robb White likes the stuff for his 16' $30K boats.

see: White MAIB (http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&threadm=W/92zwArIpVR091yn%40cyber-dyne.com&rnum=2&prev=/groups%3Fhl%3Den%26lr%3D%26ie%3DISO-8859-1%26q%3Drobb%2Bwhite%26btnG %3DGoogle%2BSearch%26meta%3Dgroup%253Drec.boats.*)

same as:

http://makeashorterlink.com/?O1F915923

Mat

[swingking]

Seems that Robb White likes the stuff for his 16' $30K boats.

see: White MAIB (http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&threadm=W/92zwArIpVR091yn%40cyber-dyne.com&rnum=2&prev=/groups%3Fhl%3Den%26lr%3D%26ie%3DISO-8859-1%26q%3Drobb%2Bwhite%26btnG %3DGoogle%2BSearch%26meta%3Dgroup%253Drec.boats.*)

same as:

http://makeashorterlink.com/?O1F915923

Mat

[swingking]

Seems that Robb White likes the stuff for his 16' $30K boats.

see: White MAIB (http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&threadm=W/92zwArIpVR091yn%40cyber-dyne.com&rnum=2&prev=/groups%3Fhl%3Den%26lr%3D%26ie%3DISO-8859-1%26q%3Drobb%2Bwhite%26btnG %3DGoogle%2BSearch%26meta%3Dgroup%253Drec.boats.*)

same as:

http://makeashorterlink.com/?O1F915923

Mat

[NormMessinger]

Ah, so. It aint poplar he's using but tulip. How does that change the arguement?

[NormMessinger]

Ah, so. It aint poplar he's using but tulip. How does that change the arguement?

[NormMessinger]

Ah, so. It aint poplar he's using but tulip. How does that change the arguement?

[Ron Williamson]

Tulip poplar(Yellow poplar,Tulip tree)is lots better outside than Aspen(Quaking,Trembling)or Balsam poplar(Balm of Gilead,or locally,"Bammy Geeerd").
It is stronger and machines better as well.
The tiny splinters from it are pro-inflammatory enough for it to be known by us as "poisonous poplar".
R

[Ron Williamson]

Tulip poplar(Yellow poplar,Tulip tree)is lots better outside than Aspen(Quaking,Trembling)or Balsam poplar(Balm of Gilead,or locally,"Bammy Geeerd").
It is stronger and machines better as well.
The tiny splinters from it are pro-inflammatory enough for it to be known by us as "poisonous poplar".
R

[Ron Williamson]

Tulip poplar(Yellow poplar,Tulip tree)is lots better outside than Aspen(Quaking,Trembling)or Balsam poplar(Balm of Gilead,or locally,"Bammy Geeerd").
It is stronger and machines better as well.
The tiny splinters from it are pro-inflammatory enough for it to be known by us as "poisonous poplar".
R

[John Blazy]

The reason the poplar is lasting in the fence situation that Mr. Armedmariner has, is because the wood gets wet then dries. I read years ago that any wood will last to some degree in the weather as long as it is open and not subject to constant moisture . Therefore your fence mullions will be rotting at the ends, and the interfaces where it touches the lattice. Rot resistence is when a wood stays sound even in constant moisture.
I recently got a bunch of poplar pcs 1/8" thick for free (its amazing how great it is for boatbuilding when its free ;) ), and I have done some bent laminations in West system for the backrests on my new boat seats, so like Robb Whites case, as long as its "petrified" in epoxy it might be ok. - JB

[John Blazy]

The reason the poplar is lasting in the fence situation that Mr. Armedmariner has, is because the wood gets wet then dries. I read years ago that any wood will last to some degree in the weather as long as it is open and not subject to constant moisture . Therefore your fence mullions will be rotting at the ends, and the interfaces where it touches the lattice. Rot resistence is when a wood stays sound even in constant moisture.
I recently got a bunch of poplar pcs 1/8" thick for free (its amazing how great it is for boatbuilding when its free ;) ), and I have done some bent laminations in West system for the backrests on my new boat seats, so like Robb Whites case, as long as its "petrified" in epoxy it might be ok. - JB

[John Blazy]

The reason the poplar is lasting in the fence situation that Mr. Armedmariner has, is because the wood gets wet then dries. I read years ago that any wood will last to some degree in the weather as long as it is open and not subject to constant moisture . Therefore your fence mullions will be rotting at the ends, and the interfaces where it touches the lattice. Rot resistence is when a wood stays sound even in constant moisture.
I recently got a bunch of poplar pcs 1/8" thick for free (its amazing how great it is for boatbuilding when its free ;) ), and I have done some bent laminations in West system for the backrests on my new boat seats, so like Robb Whites case, as long as its "petrified" in epoxy it might be ok. - JB

[Bob Aberton]

Tulip poplar is the kind with the odd-looking purple streaks, yes?

I built my entire boat out of tulip poplar...is that very bad?

Hey, I'm a novice. The plans said "medium hardwood," and poplar was the cheapest I could get. The dude at the lumber store said it would probably be okay, too, so I went ahead and did it...

Although, I did hear that tulip poplar is not such a bad wood for boatbuilding. Aspen, though, is quite bad, if my sources are correct...

[Bob Aberton]

Tulip poplar is the kind with the odd-looking purple streaks, yes?

I built my entire boat out of tulip poplar...is that very bad?

Hey, I'm a novice. The plans said "medium hardwood," and poplar was the cheapest I could get. The dude at the lumber store said it would probably be okay, too, so I went ahead and did it...

Although, I did hear that tulip poplar is not such a bad wood for boatbuilding. Aspen, though, is quite bad, if my sources are correct...

[Bob Aberton]

Tulip poplar is the kind with the odd-looking purple streaks, yes?

I built my entire boat out of tulip poplar...is that very bad?

Hey, I'm a novice. The plans said "medium hardwood," and poplar was the cheapest I could get. The dude at the lumber store said it would probably be okay, too, so I went ahead and did it...

Although, I did hear that tulip poplar is not such a bad wood for boatbuilding. Aspen, though, is quite bad, if my sources are correct...

[Armedmariner]

Originally posted by Bob Aberton:
Tulip poplar is the kind with the odd-looking purple streaks, yes?

I built my entire boat out of tulip poplar...is that very bad?

Hey, I'm a novice. The plans said "medium hardwood," and poplar was the cheapest I could get. The dude at the lumber store said it would probably be okay, too, so I went ahead and did it...

Although, I did hear that tulip poplar is not such a bad wood for boatbuilding. Aspen, though, is quite bad, if my sources are correct...I bet your tulip poplar boat will last a quarter century. I'm serious, this stuff I got on my fence is lasting better than the pressure treated stuff. I took two pieces out today after reading the post on the ends rotting and the places where it is in contact with the other wood. While this may be true of some woods, it AIN'T true with this fence wood. Now I wish I had another pile of this!

I WOULD build a boat ou tof this stuff in a heartbeat. And, I trailer sail so it wouldn't stay in the water anyway.

I love these threads....

[Armedmariner]

Originally posted by Bob Aberton:
Tulip poplar is the kind with the odd-looking purple streaks, yes?

I built my entire boat out of tulip poplar...is that very bad?

Hey, I'm a novice. The plans said "medium hardwood," and poplar was the cheapest I could get. The dude at the lumber store said it would probably be okay, too, so I went ahead and did it...

Although, I did hear that tulip poplar is not such a bad wood for boatbuilding. Aspen, though, is quite bad, if my sources are correct...I bet your tulip poplar boat will last a quarter century. I'm serious, this stuff I got on my fence is lasting better than the pressure treated stuff. I took two pieces out today after reading the post on the ends rotting and the places where it is in contact with the other wood. While this may be true of some woods, it AIN'T true with this fence wood. Now I wish I had another pile of this!

I WOULD build a boat ou tof this stuff in a heartbeat. And, I trailer sail so it wouldn't stay in the water anyway.

I love these threads....

[Armedmariner]

Originally posted by Bob Aberton:
Tulip poplar is the kind with the odd-looking purple streaks, yes?

I built my entire boat out of tulip poplar...is that very bad?

Hey, I'm a novice. The plans said "medium hardwood," and poplar was the cheapest I could get. The dude at the lumber store said it would probably be okay, too, so I went ahead and did it...

Although, I did hear that tulip poplar is not such a bad wood for boatbuilding. Aspen, though, is quite bad, if my sources are correct...I bet your tulip poplar boat will last a quarter century. I'm serious, this stuff I got on my fence is lasting better than the pressure treated stuff. I took two pieces out today after reading the post on the ends rotting and the places where it is in contact with the other wood. While this may be true of some woods, it AIN'T true with this fence wood. Now I wish I had another pile of this!

I WOULD build a boat ou tof this stuff in a heartbeat. And, I trailer sail so it wouldn't stay in the water anyway.

I love these threads....

[John Blazy]

Cheers to Tulip Poplar! Just get the right poplar, and use lots of epoxy.

[John Blazy]

Cheers to Tulip Poplar! Just get the right poplar, and use lots of epoxy.

[John Blazy]

Cheers to Tulip Poplar! Just get the right poplar, and use lots of epoxy.

[ken mcclure]

And of course there is the thinking that it's better to build the boat and enjoy it than to sit and wait for years to be able to afford the perfect wood.

Before the boat wears out, you'll be ready to build a bigger one anyway.

[ken mcclure]

And of course there is the thinking that it's better to build the boat and enjoy it than to sit and wait for years to be able to afford the perfect wood.

Before the boat wears out, you'll be ready to build a bigger one anyway.

[ken mcclure]

And of course there is the thinking that it's better to build the boat and enjoy it than to sit and wait for years to be able to afford the perfect wood.

Before the boat wears out, you'll be ready to build a bigger one anyway.