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gert
01-19-2002, 02:12 PM
What are the pros and cons (no puns please) of real hemp rope? It seems to be available in Canada; if I used it would the boat be allowed to enter the USA?
ps
welcome back all; I thought I was lost

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gert
01-19-2002, 02:12 PM
What are the pros and cons (no puns please) of real hemp rope? It seems to be available in Canada; if I used it would the boat be allowed to enter the USA?
ps
welcome back all; I thought I was lost

[This message has been edited by gert (edited 01-19-2002).]

gert
01-19-2002, 02:12 PM
What are the pros and cons (no puns please) of real hemp rope? It seems to be available in Canada; if I used it would the boat be allowed to enter the USA?
ps
welcome back all; I thought I was lost

[This message has been edited by gert (edited 01-19-2002).]

Bob Cleek
01-20-2002, 03:41 AM
Tradition aside, natural fibre rope is a distant second to the synthetic materials that have come into universal use in the last forty years or so. Hemp was favored in the past, I believe, because it weathered better than sisal or manila and stretched less. I have some lengths around the shop and it ages to a rather nice soft hand and is easy to work. I can't imagine using it on a boat, these days, though, unless it becomes widely available and is dirt cheap. There are better uses for hemp than as rope!

I can't imagine you would have any problem bringing hemp rope into the US. It is available here, I believe, though hard to find because there is little demand for it. You can buy clothes made of hemp fabric now. Hemp rope is made from the stems and stalks of the plant and so it is cultivated to grow rangey and tall, and is harvested before it flowers. You won't find any bud in hemp rope. It wouldn't be much of a smoke. I doubt you would get much of a buzz off of a hunk of hemp line! LOL

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Bob Cleek
01-20-2002, 03:41 AM
Tradition aside, natural fibre rope is a distant second to the synthetic materials that have come into universal use in the last forty years or so. Hemp was favored in the past, I believe, because it weathered better than sisal or manila and stretched less. I have some lengths around the shop and it ages to a rather nice soft hand and is easy to work. I can't imagine using it on a boat, these days, though, unless it becomes widely available and is dirt cheap. There are better uses for hemp than as rope!

I can't imagine you would have any problem bringing hemp rope into the US. It is available here, I believe, though hard to find because there is little demand for it. You can buy clothes made of hemp fabric now. Hemp rope is made from the stems and stalks of the plant and so it is cultivated to grow rangey and tall, and is harvested before it flowers. You won't find any bud in hemp rope. It wouldn't be much of a smoke. I doubt you would get much of a buzz off of a hunk of hemp line! LOL

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Bob Cleek
01-20-2002, 03:41 AM
Tradition aside, natural fibre rope is a distant second to the synthetic materials that have come into universal use in the last forty years or so. Hemp was favored in the past, I believe, because it weathered better than sisal or manila and stretched less. I have some lengths around the shop and it ages to a rather nice soft hand and is easy to work. I can't imagine using it on a boat, these days, though, unless it becomes widely available and is dirt cheap. There are better uses for hemp than as rope!

I can't imagine you would have any problem bringing hemp rope into the US. It is available here, I believe, though hard to find because there is little demand for it. You can buy clothes made of hemp fabric now. Hemp rope is made from the stems and stalks of the plant and so it is cultivated to grow rangey and tall, and is harvested before it flowers. You won't find any bud in hemp rope. It wouldn't be much of a smoke. I doubt you would get much of a buzz off of a hunk of hemp line! LOL

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Bryan Beachy
01-20-2002, 10:53 AM
Try some and find out. Then post back and let me know how you like it. I've been wondering too; it does look nice. You can get it from American Hemp http://www.hemptwine.com/rope.html in 6 to 10 mm, Hungarian hemp, 100 m coils. They don't show price(at least not that I could find), so its probably a bit high. Ha,ha. But at least it looks like its legal in the states.
Bryan

Bryan Beachy
01-20-2002, 10:53 AM
Try some and find out. Then post back and let me know how you like it. I've been wondering too; it does look nice. You can get it from American Hemp http://www.hemptwine.com/rope.html in 6 to 10 mm, Hungarian hemp, 100 m coils. They don't show price(at least not that I could find), so its probably a bit high. Ha,ha. But at least it looks like its legal in the states.
Bryan

Bryan Beachy
01-20-2002, 10:53 AM
Try some and find out. Then post back and let me know how you like it. I've been wondering too; it does look nice. You can get it from American Hemp http://www.hemptwine.com/rope.html in 6 to 10 mm, Hungarian hemp, 100 m coils. They don't show price(at least not that I could find), so its probably a bit high. Ha,ha. But at least it looks like its legal in the states.
Bryan

The Schooner Etain
01-20-2002, 12:40 PM
If you want the look of hemp, and the wear resistance of modern lines, do an Internet search on Roblon or Spunflex. It's a manmade rope that weathers to look exactly like Hemp. It's used on the Bluenose 2 here in Canada, and several other historic ships worldwide. If you want to buy in Canada, the Bluenose 2 store is an authorized dealer. Reach them at http://www.bluenose2.ns.ca/ . If you want to purchase it in the States, try Allen C. Rawl Inc. at http://www.newmc.com/roblon/ .

It's a polypropylene line. Good wear, about twice that of natural fibers, and as I said, wears to look exactly like hemp line.

Chris

The Schooner Etain
01-20-2002, 12:40 PM
If you want the look of hemp, and the wear resistance of modern lines, do an Internet search on Roblon or Spunflex. It's a manmade rope that weathers to look exactly like Hemp. It's used on the Bluenose 2 here in Canada, and several other historic ships worldwide. If you want to buy in Canada, the Bluenose 2 store is an authorized dealer. Reach them at http://www.bluenose2.ns.ca/ . If you want to purchase it in the States, try Allen C. Rawl Inc. at http://www.newmc.com/roblon/ .

It's a polypropylene line. Good wear, about twice that of natural fibers, and as I said, wears to look exactly like hemp line.

Chris

The Schooner Etain
01-20-2002, 12:40 PM
If you want the look of hemp, and the wear resistance of modern lines, do an Internet search on Roblon or Spunflex. It's a manmade rope that weathers to look exactly like Hemp. It's used on the Bluenose 2 here in Canada, and several other historic ships worldwide. If you want to buy in Canada, the Bluenose 2 store is an authorized dealer. Reach them at http://www.bluenose2.ns.ca/ . If you want to purchase it in the States, try Allen C. Rawl Inc. at http://www.newmc.com/roblon/ .

It's a polypropylene line. Good wear, about twice that of natural fibers, and as I said, wears to look exactly like hemp line.

Chris

Don Maurer
01-20-2002, 01:23 PM
Hemp rope. So that's why they invented fire ships. http://media5.hypernet.com/~dick/ubb/cool.gif

Don Maurer
01-20-2002, 01:23 PM
Hemp rope. So that's why they invented fire ships. http://media5.hypernet.com/~dick/ubb/cool.gif

Don Maurer
01-20-2002, 01:23 PM
Hemp rope. So that's why they invented fire ships. http://media5.hypernet.com/~dick/ubb/cool.gif

Hughman2
01-21-2002, 02:48 PM
I've been looking for reasonably priced bulk tarred hemp marling for maritime technology demonstrations for a while. Any leads?

Hughman2
01-21-2002, 02:48 PM
I've been looking for reasonably priced bulk tarred hemp marling for maritime technology demonstrations for a while. Any leads?

Hughman2
01-21-2002, 02:48 PM
I've been looking for reasonably priced bulk tarred hemp marling for maritime technology demonstrations for a while. Any leads?

Hugh Paterson
01-21-2002, 06:48 PM
Theres a boatbuilder over in our neck of the woods that has used hemp in lieu of glass strands to build a small racing boat (similar to a hobie cat), inital reports are that its lighter and stiffer than its GRP counterpart. I thought it was a wind-up when I read the report but it appears genuine, but WHY?

Shuggie.

Hugh Paterson
01-21-2002, 06:48 PM
Theres a boatbuilder over in our neck of the woods that has used hemp in lieu of glass strands to build a small racing boat (similar to a hobie cat), inital reports are that its lighter and stiffer than its GRP counterpart. I thought it was a wind-up when I read the report but it appears genuine, but WHY?

Shuggie.

Hugh Paterson
01-21-2002, 06:48 PM
Theres a boatbuilder over in our neck of the woods that has used hemp in lieu of glass strands to build a small racing boat (similar to a hobie cat), inital reports are that its lighter and stiffer than its GRP counterpart. I thought it was a wind-up when I read the report but it appears genuine, but WHY?

Shuggie.

TomRobb
01-22-2002, 09:53 AM
Why indeed? Perhaps to justify a lifestyle?

TomRobb
01-22-2002, 09:53 AM
Why indeed? Perhaps to justify a lifestyle?

TomRobb
01-22-2002, 09:53 AM
Why indeed? Perhaps to justify a lifestyle?

gert
01-22-2002, 10:16 AM
The boat is not yet finished so there is no "justification" as yet, except perhaps my own pleasure, frustration and learning, and my families pride. As a 50 year old long hair I like the concept of hemp rope; and it seems to me it might look good with bronze.
This boat has nothing to do with "life style". I can't afford life style, that's something SUV drivers pick up at the mall. This boat is about building and getting the kids to learn how to sail.

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gert
01-22-2002, 10:16 AM
The boat is not yet finished so there is no "justification" as yet, except perhaps my own pleasure, frustration and learning, and my families pride. As a 50 year old long hair I like the concept of hemp rope; and it seems to me it might look good with bronze.
This boat has nothing to do with "life style". I can't afford life style, that's something SUV drivers pick up at the mall. This boat is about building and getting the kids to learn how to sail.

[This message has been edited by gert (edited 01-22-2002).]

gert
01-22-2002, 10:16 AM
The boat is not yet finished so there is no "justification" as yet, except perhaps my own pleasure, frustration and learning, and my families pride. As a 50 year old long hair I like the concept of hemp rope; and it seems to me it might look good with bronze.
This boat has nothing to do with "life style". I can't afford life style, that's something SUV drivers pick up at the mall. This boat is about building and getting the kids to learn how to sail.

[This message has been edited by gert (edited 01-22-2002).]

Smacksman1
01-22-2002, 06:39 PM
I have tables of strength, etc. on natural fibre ropes on my smack site at:-
http://www.alberta-ck318.freeserve.co.uk/rope.htm
As a smack has 2,300 ft. of rope in them [plus light stuff like flag halyards] the cost comes into it a bit. Thames barges are going back to hemp rope for some jobs as they use even more rope.
Hemp is used quite a lot as an industrial material and is a different variety to pot. We have fields of it grown round us and yes, lots of jokes abound.
As said above, modern synthetics are the way to go and polyester/terylene is the one to use. Polypropylene is cheap, weak and prone to UV degridation. Nylon is too stretchy for halyards/sheets but great for warps.
You can do a great indian rope trick with wet hemp! it goes really stiff.

Smacksman1
01-22-2002, 06:39 PM
I have tables of strength, etc. on natural fibre ropes on my smack site at:-
http://www.alberta-ck318.freeserve.co.uk/rope.htm
As a smack has 2,300 ft. of rope in them [plus light stuff like flag halyards] the cost comes into it a bit. Thames barges are going back to hemp rope for some jobs as they use even more rope.
Hemp is used quite a lot as an industrial material and is a different variety to pot. We have fields of it grown round us and yes, lots of jokes abound.
As said above, modern synthetics are the way to go and polyester/terylene is the one to use. Polypropylene is cheap, weak and prone to UV degridation. Nylon is too stretchy for halyards/sheets but great for warps.
You can do a great indian rope trick with wet hemp! it goes really stiff.

Smacksman1
01-22-2002, 06:39 PM
I have tables of strength, etc. on natural fibre ropes on my smack site at:-
http://www.alberta-ck318.freeserve.co.uk/rope.htm
As a smack has 2,300 ft. of rope in them [plus light stuff like flag halyards] the cost comes into it a bit. Thames barges are going back to hemp rope for some jobs as they use even more rope.
Hemp is used quite a lot as an industrial material and is a different variety to pot. We have fields of it grown round us and yes, lots of jokes abound.
As said above, modern synthetics are the way to go and polyester/terylene is the one to use. Polypropylene is cheap, weak and prone to UV degridation. Nylon is too stretchy for halyards/sheets but great for warps.
You can do a great indian rope trick with wet hemp! it goes really stiff.