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ion barnes
01-16-2003, 12:11 AM
Anyone used it? Claims to be almost as good as epoxy. doing some test pieces right now.

ion barnes
01-16-2003, 12:11 AM
Anyone used it? Claims to be almost as good as epoxy. doing some test pieces right now.

ion barnes
01-16-2003, 12:11 AM
Anyone used it? Claims to be almost as good as epoxy. doing some test pieces right now.

NormMessinger
01-16-2003, 09:40 AM
Same stuff a Gorilla Glue, more or less. It is thinner and does not cure as fast. Search on polyethelyene (you spell it) glue and see what the chemist has to say about getting the uncured stuff on your skin.

NormMessinger
01-16-2003, 09:40 AM
Same stuff a Gorilla Glue, more or less. It is thinner and does not cure as fast. Search on polyethelyene (you spell it) glue and see what the chemist has to say about getting the uncured stuff on your skin.

NormMessinger
01-16-2003, 09:40 AM
Same stuff a Gorilla Glue, more or less. It is thinner and does not cure as fast. Search on polyethelyene (you spell it) glue and see what the chemist has to say about getting the uncured stuff on your skin.

Middle Bay
01-18-2003, 04:03 PM
Do your searches...
The Chemistis right! It is some nasty stuff- You have to wear gloves- it actually soaks deep into your skin and fuses deep in the epithelium- ie, it can't be washed off with anything- because it's INSIDE your skin-SCARY!
That being said, it seems to work REAL WELL. I guess I might be the 'tester' in the forum for ELMERS, it's all that's holding my White Oak Gunwales on. I made a Bookstand with it, that you can see in MISC/non Boat[Christmas Project] it's on page 2 now.
I am refering to Elmers' Pro-Bond Waterproof, there is also a cheaper 'interior' pro-bond but it's not labled as waterproof, although the Chemist believes they are not truly waterproof.He's probably right.

Middle Bay
01-18-2003, 04:03 PM
Do your searches...
The Chemistis right! It is some nasty stuff- You have to wear gloves- it actually soaks deep into your skin and fuses deep in the epithelium- ie, it can't be washed off with anything- because it's INSIDE your skin-SCARY!
That being said, it seems to work REAL WELL. I guess I might be the 'tester' in the forum for ELMERS, it's all that's holding my White Oak Gunwales on. I made a Bookstand with it, that you can see in MISC/non Boat[Christmas Project] it's on page 2 now.
I am refering to Elmers' Pro-Bond Waterproof, there is also a cheaper 'interior' pro-bond but it's not labled as waterproof, although the Chemist believes they are not truly waterproof.He's probably right.

Middle Bay
01-18-2003, 04:03 PM
Do your searches...
The Chemistis right! It is some nasty stuff- You have to wear gloves- it actually soaks deep into your skin and fuses deep in the epithelium- ie, it can't be washed off with anything- because it's INSIDE your skin-SCARY!
That being said, it seems to work REAL WELL. I guess I might be the 'tester' in the forum for ELMERS, it's all that's holding my White Oak Gunwales on. I made a Bookstand with it, that you can see in MISC/non Boat[Christmas Project] it's on page 2 now.
I am refering to Elmers' Pro-Bond Waterproof, there is also a cheaper 'interior' pro-bond but it's not labled as waterproof, although the Chemist believes they are not truly waterproof.He's probably right.

ion barnes
01-19-2003, 03:30 AM
Yes, I,m refering to the ProBond Waterproof stuff. OK, I've looked again at the Precautions and First aid but it doen't mention aboput the skin thing, just appears to be a generic 'dont put your finger in you eye' warning. I have tried the boil test on scarfed and butt joints and they have not softened after 1hr. and am impressed. I just thought it was another alternative to epoxy or crazy glue which also have their detractions. So, whats the worst?

ion barnes
01-19-2003, 03:30 AM
Yes, I,m refering to the ProBond Waterproof stuff. OK, I've looked again at the Precautions and First aid but it doen't mention aboput the skin thing, just appears to be a generic 'dont put your finger in you eye' warning. I have tried the boil test on scarfed and butt joints and they have not softened after 1hr. and am impressed. I just thought it was another alternative to epoxy or crazy glue which also have their detractions. So, whats the worst?

ion barnes
01-19-2003, 03:30 AM
Yes, I,m refering to the ProBond Waterproof stuff. OK, I've looked again at the Precautions and First aid but it doen't mention aboput the skin thing, just appears to be a generic 'dont put your finger in you eye' warning. I have tried the boil test on scarfed and butt joints and they have not softened after 1hr. and am impressed. I just thought it was another alternative to epoxy or crazy glue which also have their detractions. So, whats the worst?

Dan McCosh
01-23-2003, 03:17 PM
I would weigh in against any of the "gorilla"-type urethanes, save for minor non-structural repairs. Problem I've experienced is the foaming blows the glue out of the joint, leaving it very weak and subject to breaking under a hard shock.

Dan McCosh
01-23-2003, 03:17 PM
I would weigh in against any of the "gorilla"-type urethanes, save for minor non-structural repairs. Problem I've experienced is the foaming blows the glue out of the joint, leaving it very weak and subject to breaking under a hard shock.

Dan McCosh
01-23-2003, 03:17 PM
I would weigh in against any of the "gorilla"-type urethanes, save for minor non-structural repairs. Problem I've experienced is the foaming blows the glue out of the joint, leaving it very weak and subject to breaking under a hard shock.

John Weigandt
01-26-2003, 12:49 PM
I did the gunnels of my canoe with polyurethane, due to time concerns and lack of adequate numbers of clamps. Was able to glue the scarphs in the wood to make a continuous piece, and then glue them to the canoe in sections first one side then the other all in the space of an afternoon.. Cant do that with epoxy.

Wasn't Elmers specifically, was titebond brand

The canoe hangs in my garage, and that glue is all that separates me from having a canoe dent on top of the Rav 4 at any given moment. 2 years now, it hasn't "let me down".

The ropes suspend the seat frames, which are hung from the gunnels which are glued only (no screws) to the plywood hull side.

I/ve paddled this boat, and powered it with the 45 lb thrust troller hung from a reinforcing board on the side of the hull (also glued with this) My battery tie downs were also glued in in an afternoon on a lark when it was too d*** hot to paddle, but the boy and I wanted some water fun.

I like the stuff, and will use it more for selected functions in the future.

I wear latex gloves when doing gluing or painting of any kind.. buy the big box and strip em off as they get too grungy. at pennies a piece, theyre good at keeping my hands clean, as I'm not likely to hang on to them too long and get chemical penetration/ and get these doggie surgeon hands to cruddy.

John

[ 01-26-2003, 11:15 PM: Message edited by: John Weigandt ]

John Weigandt
01-26-2003, 12:49 PM
I did the gunnels of my canoe with polyurethane, due to time concerns and lack of adequate numbers of clamps. Was able to glue the scarphs in the wood to make a continuous piece, and then glue them to the canoe in sections first one side then the other all in the space of an afternoon.. Cant do that with epoxy.

Wasn't Elmers specifically, was titebond brand

The canoe hangs in my garage, and that glue is all that separates me from having a canoe dent on top of the Rav 4 at any given moment. 2 years now, it hasn't "let me down".

The ropes suspend the seat frames, which are hung from the gunnels which are glued only (no screws) to the plywood hull side.

I/ve paddled this boat, and powered it with the 45 lb thrust troller hung from a reinforcing board on the side of the hull (also glued with this) My battery tie downs were also glued in in an afternoon on a lark when it was too d*** hot to paddle, but the boy and I wanted some water fun.

I like the stuff, and will use it more for selected functions in the future.

I wear latex gloves when doing gluing or painting of any kind.. buy the big box and strip em off as they get too grungy. at pennies a piece, theyre good at keeping my hands clean, as I'm not likely to hang on to them too long and get chemical penetration/ and get these doggie surgeon hands to cruddy.

John

[ 01-26-2003, 11:15 PM: Message edited by: John Weigandt ]

John Weigandt
01-26-2003, 12:49 PM
I did the gunnels of my canoe with polyurethane, due to time concerns and lack of adequate numbers of clamps. Was able to glue the scarphs in the wood to make a continuous piece, and then glue them to the canoe in sections first one side then the other all in the space of an afternoon.. Cant do that with epoxy.

Wasn't Elmers specifically, was titebond brand

The canoe hangs in my garage, and that glue is all that separates me from having a canoe dent on top of the Rav 4 at any given moment. 2 years now, it hasn't "let me down".

The ropes suspend the seat frames, which are hung from the gunnels which are glued only (no screws) to the plywood hull side.

I/ve paddled this boat, and powered it with the 45 lb thrust troller hung from a reinforcing board on the side of the hull (also glued with this) My battery tie downs were also glued in in an afternoon on a lark when it was too d*** hot to paddle, but the boy and I wanted some water fun.

I like the stuff, and will use it more for selected functions in the future.

I wear latex gloves when doing gluing or painting of any kind.. buy the big box and strip em off as they get too grungy. at pennies a piece, theyre good at keeping my hands clean, as I'm not likely to hang on to them too long and get chemical penetration/ and get these doggie surgeon hands to cruddy.

John

[ 01-26-2003, 11:15 PM: Message edited by: John Weigandt ]