Kirby Paint Company

[Concordia..41]

I've said it before, and I want to take this opportunity to say it again.

You you can absolutely and positively find no better business to work with you on your boat painting needs than the Kirby Paint Company.

http://www.kirbypaint.com/index.html

Most recent example is that George Kirby is either psychic or a lurker as Kory recently posted when he received their calendar. I replied that ours must of been lost in the mail and few days later I get an e-mail from George asking if we received our calendar (and he didn't even ask if I wanted a little cheese with my wine :rolleyes: ).

As promised, in short order we received the calendar and an apologetic note in an oversized envelope with $2.00 in postage on it. Now I ask you, how many companies would go to that much trouble????

I just wanted to take a minute to recognize an outstanding business, because I've been planning to update our website and show some pictures of Sarah's first taste of red lead and give credit to Kirby's finest, but day after day goes by and I don't seem to get to it.

Jack - in your school of lost arts I wish there could be an equal focus on courtesy, respect, and good old fashioned ethics (business or otherwise)

[ 01-19-2003, 12:46 PM: Message edited by: Concordia..41 ]

[Concordia..41]

I've said it before, and I want to take this opportunity to say it again.

You you can absolutely and positively find no better business to work with you on your boat painting needs than the Kirby Paint Company.

http://www.kirbypaint.com/index.html

Most recent example is that George Kirby is either psychic or a lurker as Kory recently posted when he received their calendar. I replied that ours must of been lost in the mail and few days later I get an e-mail from George asking if we received our calendar (and he didn't even ask if I wanted a little cheese with my wine :rolleyes: ).

As promised, in short order we received the calendar and an apologetic note in an oversized envelope with $2.00 in postage on it. Now I ask you, how many companies would go to that much trouble????

I just wanted to take a minute to recognize an outstanding business, because I've been planning to update our website and show some pictures of Sarah's first taste of red lead and give credit to Kirby's finest, but day after day goes by and I don't seem to get to it.

Jack - in your school of lost arts I wish there could be an equal focus on courtesy, respect, and good old fashioned ethics (business or otherwise)

[ 01-19-2003, 12:46 PM: Message edited by: Concordia..41 ]

[Concordia..41]

I've said it before, and I want to take this opportunity to say it again.

You you can absolutely and positively find no better business to work with you on your boat painting needs than the Kirby Paint Company.

http://www.kirbypaint.com/index.html

Most recent example is that George Kirby is either psychic or a lurker as Kory recently posted when he received their calendar. I replied that ours must of been lost in the mail and few days later I get an e-mail from George asking if we received our calendar (and he didn't even ask if I wanted a little cheese with my wine :rolleyes: ).

As promised, in short order we received the calendar and an apologetic note in an oversized envelope with $2.00 in postage on it. Now I ask you, how many companies would go to that much trouble????

I just wanted to take a minute to recognize an outstanding business, because I've been planning to update our website and show some pictures of Sarah's first taste of red lead and give credit to Kirby's finest, but day after day goes by and I don't seem to get to it.

Jack - in your school of lost arts I wish there could be an equal focus on courtesy, respect, and good old fashioned ethics (business or otherwise)

[ 01-19-2003, 12:46 PM: Message edited by: Concordia..41 ]

[NormMessinger]

I guess I'm gonna have to order more than two quarts of paint. :(

[NormMessinger]

I guess I'm gonna have to order more than two quarts of paint. :(

[NormMessinger]

I guess I'm gonna have to order more than two quarts of paint. :(

[Ian G Wright]

I've told him and I've told him, but Mr Kirby just will not listen,,,,,,,,,,,,
maybe if some of you Colonial chaps were to point out the potentialy Huge market for real paint in the UK he might export some and I could buy it? Ask him politly in an authentic US accent... but hurry, I start painting in three weeks.

IanW.

[Ian G Wright]

I've told him and I've told him, but Mr Kirby just will not listen,,,,,,,,,,,,
maybe if some of you Colonial chaps were to point out the potentialy Huge market for real paint in the UK he might export some and I could buy it? Ask him politly in an authentic US accent... but hurry, I start painting in three weeks.

IanW.

[Ian G Wright]

I've told him and I've told him, but Mr Kirby just will not listen,,,,,,,,,,,,
maybe if some of you Colonial chaps were to point out the potentialy Huge market for real paint in the UK he might export some and I could buy it? Ask him politly in an authentic US accent... but hurry, I start painting in three weeks.

IanW.

[lumberdude]

Just ordered another quart of Bottle green. Can't wait till it gets here! Man I love that paint!

Kory

[lumberdude]

Just ordered another quart of Bottle green. Can't wait till it gets here! Man I love that paint!

Kory

[lumberdude]

Just ordered another quart of Bottle green. Can't wait till it gets here! Man I love that paint!

Kory

[Concordia..41]

Don't drink it all in one setting. It's best savored - like fine wine ;)

OK, maybe like good bourbon redface.gif

- M

[Concordia..41]

Don't drink it all in one setting. It's best savored - like fine wine ;)

OK, maybe like good bourbon redface.gif

- M

[Concordia..41]

Don't drink it all in one setting. It's best savored - like fine wine ;)

OK, maybe like good bourbon redface.gif

- M

[Venchka]

That settles it!

I'm calling them tomorrow to work out the pariculars of my paint scheme. I enjoyed meeting the folks from Kirby's at the Wooden Boat Show back in July. I now regret not talking to them more about my paint needs but I had more pressing matters on my brain.

No worries, I'm sure the phone will sork just as well.

Iain, I'll trade you Kirby's paint for 5 or 10 litres of VARNOL!

Thanks again for the endorsement.

Cheers!

[Venchka]

That settles it!

I'm calling them tomorrow to work out the pariculars of my paint scheme. I enjoyed meeting the folks from Kirby's at the Wooden Boat Show back in July. I now regret not talking to them more about my paint needs but I had more pressing matters on my brain.

No worries, I'm sure the phone will sork just as well.

Iain, I'll trade you Kirby's paint for 5 or 10 litres of VARNOL!

Thanks again for the endorsement.

Cheers!

[Venchka]

That settles it!

I'm calling them tomorrow to work out the pariculars of my paint scheme. I enjoyed meeting the folks from Kirby's at the Wooden Boat Show back in July. I now regret not talking to them more about my paint needs but I had more pressing matters on my brain.

No worries, I'm sure the phone will sork just as well.

Iain, I'll trade you Kirby's paint for 5 or 10 litres of VARNOL!

Thanks again for the endorsement.

Cheers!

[Venchka]

Sorry for the typo, Ian. I must have the other Iain (Oughtred) on the brain these days.

[Venchka]

Sorry for the typo, Ian. I must have the other Iain (Oughtred) on the brain these days.

[Venchka]

Sorry for the typo, Ian. I must have the other Iain (Oughtred) on the brain these days.

[Mike Field]

So what do you reckon, Margo? If 6000-odd of us Forumites all sent George emails, would we all get calendars in the mail do you think? smile.gif

Mike
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Okay, I know -- :rolleyes:
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George, if you're lurking, pay no attention to this post, but please do think seriously about Ian's. But of course it would be appropriate to make sure all the other colonies were dealt with satisfactorily first, wouldn't it? smile.gif
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[Mike Field]

So what do you reckon, Margo? If 6000-odd of us Forumites all sent George emails, would we all get calendars in the mail do you think? smile.gif

Mike
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Okay, I know -- :rolleyes:
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George, if you're lurking, pay no attention to this post, but please do think seriously about Ian's. But of course it would be appropriate to make sure all the other colonies were dealt with satisfactorily first, wouldn't it? smile.gif
.

[Mike Field]

So what do you reckon, Margo? If 6000-odd of us Forumites all sent George emails, would we all get calendars in the mail do you think? smile.gif

Mike
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Okay, I know -- :rolleyes:
________

George, if you're lurking, pay no attention to this post, but please do think seriously about Ian's. But of course it would be appropriate to make sure all the other colonies were dealt with satisfactorily first, wouldn't it? smile.gif
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[Wild Dingo]

Originally posted by Mike Field:
So what do you reckon, Margo? If 6000-odd of us Forumites all sent George emails, would we all get calendars in the mail do you think? smile.gif

Mike
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Of course it would be appropriate to make sure all the other colonies were dealt with satisfactorily first, wouldn't it? smile.gif
.Fully endorsed from the Western side of this colony Mike!! :cool:

Dear Mr Kirby
Im way downunder in West Aussie and Id like some of your extraudinary paint as Ive read all these glowing reports on its glorious colors and excellent properties from all over the USA and I reckon you gotta help us colonialists out and send us a big old container full of the stuff!!... oh and one of your loverly calanders okay?? ;) oh and Mr Kirby sir if you really want to be helpfull maybe a container of that spar varnish stuff too?? ohh and some pine tar!! ooohhh and and some of that great stuff I will think of later :rolleyes: I did mention the need for calanders didnt I George mate? cobber? pal? HA!!! :D

[Wild Dingo]

Originally posted by Mike Field:
So what do you reckon, Margo? If 6000-odd of us Forumites all sent George emails, would we all get calendars in the mail do you think? smile.gif

Mike
________

Of course it would be appropriate to make sure all the other colonies were dealt with satisfactorily first, wouldn't it? smile.gif
.Fully endorsed from the Western side of this colony Mike!! :cool:

Dear Mr Kirby
Im way downunder in West Aussie and Id like some of your extraudinary paint as Ive read all these glowing reports on its glorious colors and excellent properties from all over the USA and I reckon you gotta help us colonialists out and send us a big old container full of the stuff!!... oh and one of your loverly calanders okay?? ;) oh and Mr Kirby sir if you really want to be helpfull maybe a container of that spar varnish stuff too?? ohh and some pine tar!! ooohhh and and some of that great stuff I will think of later :rolleyes: I did mention the need for calanders didnt I George mate? cobber? pal? HA!!! :D

[Wild Dingo]

Originally posted by Mike Field:
So what do you reckon, Margo? If 6000-odd of us Forumites all sent George emails, would we all get calendars in the mail do you think? smile.gif

Mike
________

Of course it would be appropriate to make sure all the other colonies were dealt with satisfactorily first, wouldn't it? smile.gif
.Fully endorsed from the Western side of this colony Mike!! :cool:

Dear Mr Kirby
Im way downunder in West Aussie and Id like some of your extraudinary paint as Ive read all these glowing reports on its glorious colors and excellent properties from all over the USA and I reckon you gotta help us colonialists out and send us a big old container full of the stuff!!... oh and one of your loverly calanders okay?? ;) oh and Mr Kirby sir if you really want to be helpfull maybe a container of that spar varnish stuff too?? ohh and some pine tar!! ooohhh and and some of that great stuff I will think of later :rolleyes: I did mention the need for calanders didnt I George mate? cobber? pal? HA!!! :D

[Stu Fyfe]

I always look forward to my annual spring trip from Cape Cod to New Bedford to get my Kirby's supplies. Last year I was looking to duplicate Pettit Medium Buff that I use on my deck. It's getting harder to find down here. So I call Kirby's and George says sure no problem, check back with me in a few days. I show up at the store(a wonderful throwback operation) and he's just finishing up mixing it for me. Now he has the settings on file. All I have to do is call him up and order it this spring. Not only did he match the original, he did it in a flatter finish that looks better! By all means, everybody support these guys! We need to help these types of buisnesses from getting eaten up by Waste Marine and Boat USeless.

[ 01-20-2003, 01:03 PM: Message edited by: Stu Fyfe ]

[Stu Fyfe]

I always look forward to my annual spring trip from Cape Cod to New Bedford to get my Kirby's supplies. Last year I was looking to duplicate Pettit Medium Buff that I use on my deck. It's getting harder to find down here. So I call Kirby's and George says sure no problem, check back with me in a few days. I show up at the store(a wonderful throwback operation) and he's just finishing up mixing it for me. Now he has the settings on file. All I have to do is call him up and order it this spring. Not only did he match the original, he did it in a flatter finish that looks better! By all means, everybody support these guys! We need to help these types of buisnesses from getting eaten up by Waste Marine and Boat USeless.

[ 01-20-2003, 01:03 PM: Message edited by: Stu Fyfe ]

[Stu Fyfe]

I always look forward to my annual spring trip from Cape Cod to New Bedford to get my Kirby's supplies. Last year I was looking to duplicate Pettit Medium Buff that I use on my deck. It's getting harder to find down here. So I call Kirby's and George says sure no problem, check back with me in a few days. I show up at the store(a wonderful throwback operation) and he's just finishing up mixing it for me. Now he has the settings on file. All I have to do is call him up and order it this spring. Not only did he match the original, he did it in a flatter finish that looks better! By all means, everybody support these guys! We need to help these types of buisnesses from getting eaten up by Waste Marine and Boat USeless.

[ 01-20-2003, 01:03 PM: Message edited by: Stu Fyfe ]

[Ian G Wright]

Originally posted by Venchka:

Iain, I'll trade you Kirby's paint for 5 or 10 litres of VARNOL!

!If you can figure out how we can ship it you're on!

IanW.

[Ian G Wright]

Originally posted by Venchka:

Iain, I'll trade you Kirby's paint for 5 or 10 litres of VARNOL!

!If you can figure out how we can ship it you're on!

IanW.

[Ian G Wright]

Originally posted by Venchka:

Iain, I'll trade you Kirby's paint for 5 or 10 litres of VARNOL!

!If you can figure out how we can ship it you're on!

IanW.

[Matt J.]

You're all exactly right.

For some strange reason, I look forward to needing paint... it's almost fun to deal with them. You name it, they'll get it for you. Even suggest proper paint schemes, mix different finishes and tones... all for a single builder with a coupla small dinghies...

Great people.

I almost feel guilty saying I never got my calender... but I didn't get one. Aww, gee, George. ;) I'll call him again for paint, though.

-Matt

[Matt J.]

You're all exactly right.

For some strange reason, I look forward to needing paint... it's almost fun to deal with them. You name it, they'll get it for you. Even suggest proper paint schemes, mix different finishes and tones... all for a single builder with a coupla small dinghies...

Great people.

I almost feel guilty saying I never got my calender... but I didn't get one. Aww, gee, George. ;) I'll call him again for paint, though.

-Matt

[Matt J.]

You're all exactly right.

For some strange reason, I look forward to needing paint... it's almost fun to deal with them. You name it, they'll get it for you. Even suggest proper paint schemes, mix different finishes and tones... all for a single builder with a coupla small dinghies...

Great people.

I almost feel guilty saying I never got my calender... but I didn't get one. Aww, gee, George. ;) I'll call him again for paint, though.

-Matt

[Don Maurer]

I ordered a gallon of undercoater right before christmas. A week or so after christmas I got a call from George asking me if I ever got the paint (I had). It seems that in the holiday confusion he had sent the paint out but forgot to mark the order as completed. How's that for service? BTW, I got 2 calendars. One came with the paint order. The other through the mail tongue.gif .

[Don Maurer]

I ordered a gallon of undercoater right before christmas. A week or so after christmas I got a call from George asking me if I ever got the paint (I had). It seems that in the holiday confusion he had sent the paint out but forgot to mark the order as completed. How's that for service? BTW, I got 2 calendars. One came with the paint order. The other through the mail tongue.gif .

[Don Maurer]

I ordered a gallon of undercoater right before christmas. A week or so after christmas I got a call from George asking me if I ever got the paint (I had). It seems that in the holiday confusion he had sent the paint out but forgot to mark the order as completed. How's that for service? BTW, I got 2 calendars. One came with the paint order. The other through the mail tongue.gif .

[Art Read]

Yup... Something just feels "special" when you call a guy on the other side of the country, two days before Christmas, after two years, for another quart of topsides paint and he doesn't even have to ask what your address is! ;) (Or, for that matter, what color paint you need!) BTW... Thanks for the calander, George...

[ 01-21-2003, 04:21 PM: Message edited by: Art Read ]

[Art Read]

Yup... Something just feels "special" when you call a guy on the other side of the country, two days before Christmas, after two years, for another quart of topsides paint and he doesn't even have to ask what your address is! ;) (Or, for that matter, what color paint you need!) BTW... Thanks for the calander, George...

[ 01-21-2003, 04:21 PM: Message edited by: Art Read ]

[Art Read]

Yup... Something just feels "special" when you call a guy on the other side of the country, two days before Christmas, after two years, for another quart of topsides paint and he doesn't even have to ask what your address is! ;) (Or, for that matter, what color paint you need!) BTW... Thanks for the calander, George...

[ 01-21-2003, 04:21 PM: Message edited by: Art Read ]

[Scott Rosen]

The more I use George's paint, the more I like it. Everything about it is just right, perfect for boat use. Thanks again, George.

[Scott Rosen]

The more I use George's paint, the more I like it. Everything about it is just right, perfect for boat use. Thanks again, George.

[Scott Rosen]

The more I use George's paint, the more I like it. Everything about it is just right, perfect for boat use. Thanks again, George.

[Ian G Wright]

Damn it, will you stop it please. E-mail among yourselves or something. Have a little thought for those peoples less fortunate than your own. Do I go on about Classic Marine? or James Lawrence Sailmakers? Well I do, but at least you bloody Yanks can buy the stuff I mention. No more Kirby Paint until they'll sell me some.

IanW.

[Ian G Wright]

Damn it, will you stop it please. E-mail among yourselves or something. Have a little thought for those peoples less fortunate than your own. Do I go on about Classic Marine? or James Lawrence Sailmakers? Well I do, but at least you bloody Yanks can buy the stuff I mention. No more Kirby Paint until they'll sell me some.

IanW.

[Ian G Wright]

Damn it, will you stop it please. E-mail among yourselves or something. Have a little thought for those peoples less fortunate than your own. Do I go on about Classic Marine? or James Lawrence Sailmakers? Well I do, but at least you bloody Yanks can buy the stuff I mention. No more Kirby Paint until they'll sell me some.

IanW.

[Venchka]

Ian G. Wright:

Ok, no more about the paint company in Massachusetts.

Now, about something you can help me with. I got the following from Marinestore:

"Dear Wayne
The total cost without VAT for 5 x 1LT tins of Varnol plus post & packing is £93.00 our telephone number is 01621 854280
Liz
Marinestore Chandlery
North St., Maldon, Essex. CM9 5HN UK
+44(0)1621 854280"

Are these good folks to trade with? I asked for a quote on 1 x 5 litre container but maybe they don't stock the 5 litre size.

Do you have any other suggestions for a source of Varnol?

Cheers!

[Venchka]

Ian G. Wright:

Ok, no more about the paint company in Massachusetts.

Now, about something you can help me with. I got the following from Marinestore:

"Dear Wayne
The total cost without VAT for 5 x 1LT tins of Varnol plus post & packing is £93.00 our telephone number is 01621 854280
Liz
Marinestore Chandlery
North St., Maldon, Essex. CM9 5HN UK
+44(0)1621 854280"

Are these good folks to trade with? I asked for a quote on 1 x 5 litre container but maybe they don't stock the 5 litre size.

Do you have any other suggestions for a source of Varnol?

Cheers!

[Venchka]

Ian G. Wright:

Ok, no more about the paint company in Massachusetts.

Now, about something you can help me with. I got the following from Marinestore:

"Dear Wayne
The total cost without VAT for 5 x 1LT tins of Varnol plus post & packing is £93.00 our telephone number is 01621 854280
Liz
Marinestore Chandlery
North St., Maldon, Essex. CM9 5HN UK
+44(0)1621 854280"

Are these good folks to trade with? I asked for a quote on 1 x 5 litre container but maybe they don't stock the 5 litre size.

Do you have any other suggestions for a source of Varnol?

Cheers!

[Peter Malcolm Jardine]

Does anyone know where to get Kirby's in Canada? Why?
Example: two quart CPES from Rot Doctor, with brokerage fees.... $137.00 Canadian... I hope its good :D ...just got it.

[Peter Malcolm Jardine]

Does anyone know where to get Kirby's in Canada? Why?
Example: two quart CPES from Rot Doctor, with brokerage fees.... $137.00 Canadian... I hope its good :D ...just got it.

[Peter Malcolm Jardine]

Does anyone know where to get Kirby's in Canada? Why?
Example: two quart CPES from Rot Doctor, with brokerage fees.... $137.00 Canadian... I hope its good :D ...just got it.

[Rich VanValkenburg]

Mr. Kirby, I only bought a quart of red lead, and I'll order some more next week or two, but I didn't get a calendar either. Here in the office I put up three or four calendars for lumber, tools, grinding service, etc. It lets the weenies here know that I'm not one. I could sure use a Kirby calendar.

Rich

[Rich VanValkenburg]

Mr. Kirby, I only bought a quart of red lead, and I'll order some more next week or two, but I didn't get a calendar either. Here in the office I put up three or four calendars for lumber, tools, grinding service, etc. It lets the weenies here know that I'm not one. I could sure use a Kirby calendar.

Rich

[Rich VanValkenburg]

Mr. Kirby, I only bought a quart of red lead, and I'll order some more next week or two, but I didn't get a calendar either. Here in the office I put up three or four calendars for lumber, tools, grinding service, etc. It lets the weenies here know that I'm not one. I could sure use a Kirby calendar.

Rich

[Ian G Wright]

Originally posted by Venchka:

Are these good folks to trade with?
Do you have any other suggestions for a source of Varnol?

Cheers!It's one of my local chandleries, OK, but not famous for cheap prices.
I know the importer to the UK, dealt with him in the past and he is a member of the OGA, It's been some time since I bought a gallon can so I forget the price,,,,,ah, just found his number, phone/fax 01725 552641 with whatever international codes you need.(?) No e-mail. It's the Black Dog Stores and his name is Pol Berguis, mention my name, better still tell him you know the skipper of Patience and claim the Old Gaffers discount. ;) E-mail me if you get stuck.
IanW

[Ian G Wright]

Originally posted by Venchka:

Are these good folks to trade with?
Do you have any other suggestions for a source of Varnol?

Cheers!It's one of my local chandleries, OK, but not famous for cheap prices.
I know the importer to the UK, dealt with him in the past and he is a member of the OGA, It's been some time since I bought a gallon can so I forget the price,,,,,ah, just found his number, phone/fax 01725 552641 with whatever international codes you need.(?) No e-mail. It's the Black Dog Stores and his name is Pol Berguis, mention my name, better still tell him you know the skipper of Patience and claim the Old Gaffers discount. ;) E-mail me if you get stuck.
IanW

[Ian G Wright]

Originally posted by Venchka:

Are these good folks to trade with?
Do you have any other suggestions for a source of Varnol?

Cheers!It's one of my local chandleries, OK, but not famous for cheap prices.
I know the importer to the UK, dealt with him in the past and he is a member of the OGA, It's been some time since I bought a gallon can so I forget the price,,,,,ah, just found his number, phone/fax 01725 552641 with whatever international codes you need.(?) No e-mail. It's the Black Dog Stores and his name is Pol Berguis, mention my name, better still tell him you know the skipper of Patience and claim the Old Gaffers discount. ;) E-mail me if you get stuck.
IanW

[Thaddeus J. Van Gilder]

Ian,
why is it that Kirby's can't ship paint to England? I have gotten red lead powder from England... surely that is more harmfull than a can of paint!!!!

by the way, how does one get into the old gaffer's society? There doesn't seem to be any members here in south Jersey to ask. I think I qualify...My Bistol Channel cutter is from 1923, and is gaff rigged.

Thaddeus J. Van Gilder
S/V IVY

[Thaddeus J. Van Gilder]

Ian,
why is it that Kirby's can't ship paint to England? I have gotten red lead powder from England... surely that is more harmfull than a can of paint!!!!

by the way, how does one get into the old gaffer's society? There doesn't seem to be any members here in south Jersey to ask. I think I qualify...My Bistol Channel cutter is from 1923, and is gaff rigged.

Thaddeus J. Van Gilder
S/V IVY

[Thaddeus J. Van Gilder]

Ian,
why is it that Kirby's can't ship paint to England? I have gotten red lead powder from England... surely that is more harmfull than a can of paint!!!!

by the way, how does one get into the old gaffer's society? There doesn't seem to be any members here in south Jersey to ask. I think I qualify...My Bistol Channel cutter is from 1923, and is gaff rigged.

Thaddeus J. Van Gilder
S/V IVY

[redonebyme]

All right now.

I've been on this forum for at least a year and this is the first time I have heard of Kirby's.

I've read your testimonials and the posts that some of you have writeen in the past lead me to believe that this paint is what I should use.

Is this why I got no responces when I posted a question about Interlux two part poly??

Not wanting to start a fight, how can a 100 year paint mixture compare to newer chemistry?

I understand that it is almost impossible to touch up the inrerlux. What about kirby's?

[redonebyme]

All right now.

I've been on this forum for at least a year and this is the first time I have heard of Kirby's.

I've read your testimonials and the posts that some of you have writeen in the past lead me to believe that this paint is what I should use.

Is this why I got no responces when I posted a question about Interlux two part poly??

Not wanting to start a fight, how can a 100 year paint mixture compare to newer chemistry?

I understand that it is almost impossible to touch up the inrerlux. What about kirby's?

[redonebyme]

All right now.

I've been on this forum for at least a year and this is the first time I have heard of Kirby's.

I've read your testimonials and the posts that some of you have writeen in the past lead me to believe that this paint is what I should use.

Is this why I got no responces when I posted a question about Interlux two part poly??

Not wanting to start a fight, how can a 100 year paint mixture compare to newer chemistry?

I understand that it is almost impossible to touch up the inrerlux. What about kirby's?

[Venchka]

Originally posted by Peter Malcolm:
Does anyone know where to get Kirby's in Canada? Why?
Example: two quart CPES from Rot Doctor, with brokerage fees.... $137.00 Canadian... I hope its good :D ...just got it.Do what I did: I called Smith & Co. and got a list of distributors in the vicinity of the builders I was considering. There is a distributor in Toronto, the name escapes me at the moment. BUT, my builder in New Brunswick contacted them and they were probably higher than what you paid. SO, I called the local paint company in New Orleans and they shipped 3 GALLONS of C.P.E.S. to the Maine/New Brunswick border and my builder drove over and collected it. Total cost: $197.00 US.

The Internet is great for research, but not always good prices.

My advice? If you can go over to the border in New York to pick it up, order C.P.E.S. from the folks here in New Orleans and save $$$$. Same goes for Kirby's paint.

I spoke to George Kirby earlier today about paint for the boat. I asked if undercoat/primer was needed. He asked if I were putting anything on the bare wood, "Are you putting C.P.E.S. on the bare wood?" I said I was and he said, "My paint lays down real well on that stuff. No need for primer."

There you have it folks.

[Venchka]

Originally posted by Peter Malcolm:
Does anyone know where to get Kirby's in Canada? Why?
Example: two quart CPES from Rot Doctor, with brokerage fees.... $137.00 Canadian... I hope its good :D ...just got it.Do what I did: I called Smith & Co. and got a list of distributors in the vicinity of the builders I was considering. There is a distributor in Toronto, the name escapes me at the moment. BUT, my builder in New Brunswick contacted them and they were probably higher than what you paid. SO, I called the local paint company in New Orleans and they shipped 3 GALLONS of C.P.E.S. to the Maine/New Brunswick border and my builder drove over and collected it. Total cost: $197.00 US.

The Internet is great for research, but not always good prices.

My advice? If you can go over to the border in New York to pick it up, order C.P.E.S. from the folks here in New Orleans and save $$$$. Same goes for Kirby's paint.

I spoke to George Kirby earlier today about paint for the boat. I asked if undercoat/primer was needed. He asked if I were putting anything on the bare wood, "Are you putting C.P.E.S. on the bare wood?" I said I was and he said, "My paint lays down real well on that stuff. No need for primer."

There you have it folks.

[Venchka]

Originally posted by Peter Malcolm:
Does anyone know where to get Kirby's in Canada? Why?
Example: two quart CPES from Rot Doctor, with brokerage fees.... $137.00 Canadian... I hope its good :D ...just got it.Do what I did: I called Smith & Co. and got a list of distributors in the vicinity of the builders I was considering. There is a distributor in Toronto, the name escapes me at the moment. BUT, my builder in New Brunswick contacted them and they were probably higher than what you paid. SO, I called the local paint company in New Orleans and they shipped 3 GALLONS of C.P.E.S. to the Maine/New Brunswick border and my builder drove over and collected it. Total cost: $197.00 US.

The Internet is great for research, but not always good prices.

My advice? If you can go over to the border in New York to pick it up, order C.P.E.S. from the folks here in New Orleans and save $$$$. Same goes for Kirby's paint.

I spoke to George Kirby earlier today about paint for the boat. I asked if undercoat/primer was needed. He asked if I were putting anything on the bare wood, "Are you putting C.P.E.S. on the bare wood?" I said I was and he said, "My paint lays down real well on that stuff. No need for primer."

There you have it folks.

[Concordia..41]

Redonebyme - put Kirby in the search engine in B&R (and here too) and grab a beer. Should be good reading for the rest of the evening. You'll find a lot on red lead, but you should also find bunches of folks discussing Kirby's paints for topsides, cabin sides, etc. We've got a gallon of white on standby for the coach roof interior. Just told him it was for a Concordia and he said ok. There's no doubt it's exactly the white we need.



- M

[ 01-27-2003, 05:02 PM: Message edited by: Concordia..41 ]

[Concordia..41]

Redonebyme - put Kirby in the search engine in B&R (and here too) and grab a beer. Should be good reading for the rest of the evening. You'll find a lot on red lead, but you should also find bunches of folks discussing Kirby's paints for topsides, cabin sides, etc. We've got a gallon of white on standby for the coach roof interior. Just told him it was for a Concordia and he said ok. There's no doubt it's exactly the white we need.



- M

[ 01-27-2003, 05:02 PM: Message edited by: Concordia..41 ]

[Concordia..41]

Redonebyme - put Kirby in the search engine in B&R (and here too) and grab a beer. Should be good reading for the rest of the evening. You'll find a lot on red lead, but you should also find bunches of folks discussing Kirby's paints for topsides, cabin sides, etc. We've got a gallon of white on standby for the coach roof interior. Just told him it was for a Concordia and he said ok. There's no doubt it's exactly the white we need.



- M

[ 01-27-2003, 05:02 PM: Message edited by: Concordia..41 ]

[Scott Rosen]

Originally posted by redonebyme:
All right now. Not wanting to start a fight, how can a 100 year paint mixture compare to newer chemistry?How can a 100 year old wooden boat compare to the boat created by newer chemistry?

[Scott Rosen]

Originally posted by redonebyme:
All right now. Not wanting to start a fight, how can a 100 year paint mixture compare to newer chemistry?How can a 100 year old wooden boat compare to the boat created by newer chemistry?

[Scott Rosen]

Originally posted by redonebyme:
All right now. Not wanting to start a fight, how can a 100 year paint mixture compare to newer chemistry?How can a 100 year old wooden boat compare to the boat created by newer chemistry?

[Stu Fyfe]

How do they do it? They have formulas that work and they don't mess with a good thing. They take pride in their products. They haven't sold out to one of the bigger companies that might water things down in pursuit of a bigger profit. It's been a family buisness forever. They like what they do. And as I've found with alot of the wooden boat community, they're nice people.
Ever notice how older tools are usually better made? With all the technology out there wouldn't you think they could make better tools?
Remember when a hardware store had everything you could want to fix something? Now they're all Ace, Tru-Value, etc. You can't get individual parts, you gotta buy a cheap replacement with more than you want. Kirby's is kind of like those old neighborhood hardware stores.

[ 01-23-2003, 09:38 PM: Message edited by: Stu Fyfe ]

[Stu Fyfe]

How do they do it? They have formulas that work and they don't mess with a good thing. They take pride in their products. They haven't sold out to one of the bigger companies that might water things down in pursuit of a bigger profit. It's been a family buisness forever. They like what they do. And as I've found with alot of the wooden boat community, they're nice people.
Ever notice how older tools are usually better made? With all the technology out there wouldn't you think they could make better tools?
Remember when a hardware store had everything you could want to fix something? Now they're all Ace, Tru-Value, etc. You can't get individual parts, you gotta buy a cheap replacement with more than you want. Kirby's is kind of like those old neighborhood hardware stores.

[ 01-23-2003, 09:38 PM: Message edited by: Stu Fyfe ]

[Stu Fyfe]

How do they do it? They have formulas that work and they don't mess with a good thing. They take pride in their products. They haven't sold out to one of the bigger companies that might water things down in pursuit of a bigger profit. It's been a family buisness forever. They like what they do. And as I've found with alot of the wooden boat community, they're nice people.
Ever notice how older tools are usually better made? With all the technology out there wouldn't you think they could make better tools?
Remember when a hardware store had everything you could want to fix something? Now they're all Ace, Tru-Value, etc. You can't get individual parts, you gotta buy a cheap replacement with more than you want. Kirby's is kind of like those old neighborhood hardware stores.

[ 01-23-2003, 09:38 PM: Message edited by: Stu Fyfe ]

[NormMessinger]

Has anyone see an objective test comparing Kirby's with others?

[NormMessinger]

Has anyone see an objective test comparing Kirby's with others?

[NormMessinger]

Has anyone see an objective test comparing Kirby's with others?

[J. Dillon]

Atta boy Norm. Ask an embrassing but good question. :eek:

Show me proof on how good it is from an independent lab. ;)

Has Practical sailor done any tests ?
:confused:

JD

[J. Dillon]

Atta boy Norm. Ask an embrassing but good question. :eek:

Show me proof on how good it is from an independent lab. ;)

Has Practical sailor done any tests ?
:confused:

JD

[J. Dillon]

Atta boy Norm. Ask an embrassing but good question. :eek:

Show me proof on how good it is from an independent lab. ;)

Has Practical sailor done any tests ?
:confused:

JD

[Wild Dingo]

Sooo.... George were waiting down here!! :rolleyes:

[Wild Dingo]

Sooo.... George were waiting down here!! :rolleyes:

[Wild Dingo]

Sooo.... George were waiting down here!! :rolleyes:

[Ian G Wright]

Originally posted by Thaddeus J. Van Gilder:

by the way, how does one get into the old gaffer's society? I think I qualify...My Bistol Channel cutter is from 1923, and is gaff rigged.

I've asked Mr Kirby if, not why, any body closer like to nip round and ask him?

You would be very welcome in the OGA, take a look at http://www.oldgaffersassociation.org/ and they are looking for a USA contact/ chairman as we speak, why not volunteer?

IanW.

[Ian G Wright]

Originally posted by Thaddeus J. Van Gilder:

by the way, how does one get into the old gaffer's society? I think I qualify...My Bistol Channel cutter is from 1923, and is gaff rigged.

I've asked Mr Kirby if, not why, any body closer like to nip round and ask him?

You would be very welcome in the OGA, take a look at http://www.oldgaffersassociation.org/ and they are looking for a USA contact/ chairman as we speak, why not volunteer?

IanW.

[Ian G Wright]

Originally posted by Thaddeus J. Van Gilder:

by the way, how does one get into the old gaffer's society? I think I qualify...My Bistol Channel cutter is from 1923, and is gaff rigged.

I've asked Mr Kirby if, not why, any body closer like to nip round and ask him?

You would be very welcome in the OGA, take a look at http://www.oldgaffersassociation.org/ and they are looking for a USA contact/ chairman as we speak, why not volunteer?

IanW.

[Thaddeus J. Van Gilder]

Ian,
Thank you. That is very useful information.

I take it "Patience" Is a gaff rigger?
You have any tricks for replacing mast hoops without taking all the hardware off of the mast?

many of my hoops need to be replaced and I really didn't want to step the ,mast this spring.

[Thaddeus J. Van Gilder]

Ian,
Thank you. That is very useful information.

I take it "Patience" Is a gaff rigger?
You have any tricks for replacing mast hoops without taking all the hardware off of the mast?

many of my hoops need to be replaced and I really didn't want to step the ,mast this spring.

[Thaddeus J. Van Gilder]

Ian,
Thank you. That is very useful information.

I take it "Patience" Is a gaff rigger?
You have any tricks for replacing mast hoops without taking all the hardware off of the mast?

many of my hoops need to be replaced and I really didn't want to step the ,mast this spring.

[Art Read]

Redone... No "comparative tests" to offer, but I've never used a paint, "marine" or otherwise that went down as easily, covered as well or was so "forgiving" as Mr. Kirby's. This is the first coat over CPES and lightly sanded red lead primer.

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid19/pa00f4e0f1b89303f87730d9a0c1db4c6/fdc1e078.jpg

(That bootstripe is Kirby's too, btw... One coat.)

[ 01-24-2003, 04:12 PM: Message edited by: Art Read ]

[Art Read]

Redone... No "comparative tests" to offer, but I've never used a paint, "marine" or otherwise that went down as easily, covered as well or was so "forgiving" as Mr. Kirby's. This is the first coat over CPES and lightly sanded red lead primer.

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid19/pa00f4e0f1b89303f87730d9a0c1db4c6/fdc1e078.jpg

(That bootstripe is Kirby's too, btw... One coat.)

[ 01-24-2003, 04:12 PM: Message edited by: Art Read ]

[Art Read]

Redone... No "comparative tests" to offer, but I've never used a paint, "marine" or otherwise that went down as easily, covered as well or was so "forgiving" as Mr. Kirby's. This is the first coat over CPES and lightly sanded red lead primer.

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid19/pa00f4e0f1b89303f87730d9a0c1db4c6/fdc1e078.jpg

(That bootstripe is Kirby's too, btw... One coat.)

[ 01-24-2003, 04:12 PM: Message edited by: Art Read ]

[Ian G Wright]

Originally posted by Thaddeus J. Van Gilder:
You have any tricks for replacing mast hoops without taking all the hardware off of the mast?.It all depends,,,,,,, The hoops on Patience are steamed ash, 2 1/2 turns and secured with a copper nail and rove, so,,,,,,,,,,,
I fit two more hoops than the mainsail needs so that if one breaks I can ditch it and use a spare, and,,,,,,,,,,,, I keep a couple steamed but not nailed as spares, put them on the mast, like putting a key on a keyring,then rivet through a pre-drilled hole, See?
Wish our scanner worked.

IanW.

[Ian G Wright]

Originally posted by Thaddeus J. Van Gilder:
You have any tricks for replacing mast hoops without taking all the hardware off of the mast?.It all depends,,,,,,, The hoops on Patience are steamed ash, 2 1/2 turns and secured with a copper nail and rove, so,,,,,,,,,,,
I fit two more hoops than the mainsail needs so that if one breaks I can ditch it and use a spare, and,,,,,,,,,,,, I keep a couple steamed but not nailed as spares, put them on the mast, like putting a key on a keyring,then rivet through a pre-drilled hole, See?
Wish our scanner worked.

IanW.

[Ian G Wright]

Originally posted by Thaddeus J. Van Gilder:
You have any tricks for replacing mast hoops without taking all the hardware off of the mast?.It all depends,,,,,,, The hoops on Patience are steamed ash, 2 1/2 turns and secured with a copper nail and rove, so,,,,,,,,,,,
I fit two more hoops than the mainsail needs so that if one breaks I can ditch it and use a spare, and,,,,,,,,,,,, I keep a couple steamed but not nailed as spares, put them on the mast, like putting a key on a keyring,then rivet through a pre-drilled hole, See?
Wish our scanner worked.

IanW.

[J. Dillon]

Looks real good Art. A question, Art, or any user of Kirby's.

How does it stand up to rain, salt, sun, wear and tear, crud and how long before you need to do the job again ?

Curious and willing to listen JD :rolleyes:

[J. Dillon]

Looks real good Art. A question, Art, or any user of Kirby's.

How does it stand up to rain, salt, sun, wear and tear, crud and how long before you need to do the job again ?

Curious and willing to listen JD :rolleyes:

[J. Dillon]

Looks real good Art. A question, Art, or any user of Kirby's.

How does it stand up to rain, salt, sun, wear and tear, crud and how long before you need to do the job again ?

Curious and willing to listen JD :rolleyes:

[Art Read]

Jack, I wish I could tell you! :( She's still in the building shed... But it seems to hold up pretty well against the usual slings and arrows of boatbuilding work. I "dinged" that first coat up pretty good, moving lumber around, spilling stuff, etc. over the next couple of years... Still, it looked pretty darn good with just a quick sanding and a rolled on "second" coat a couple months ago. (Only filled a few of the worst "dings") That first coat, btw, was just brushed on quickly with a cheap, disposable brush to provide a "sealer coat" to protect the hull while I worked inside and on deck and to give the seams time to "settle in". It worked, and looked, far better than I expected.

[ 01-24-2003, 04:27 PM: Message edited by: Art Read ]

[Art Read]

Jack, I wish I could tell you! :( She's still in the building shed... But it seems to hold up pretty well against the usual slings and arrows of boatbuilding work. I "dinged" that first coat up pretty good, moving lumber around, spilling stuff, etc. over the next couple of years... Still, it looked pretty darn good with just a quick sanding and a rolled on "second" coat a couple months ago. (Only filled a few of the worst "dings") That first coat, btw, was just brushed on quickly with a cheap, disposable brush to provide a "sealer coat" to protect the hull while I worked inside and on deck and to give the seams time to "settle in". It worked, and looked, far better than I expected.

[ 01-24-2003, 04:27 PM: Message edited by: Art Read ]

[Art Read]

Jack, I wish I could tell you! :( She's still in the building shed... But it seems to hold up pretty well against the usual slings and arrows of boatbuilding work. I "dinged" that first coat up pretty good, moving lumber around, spilling stuff, etc. over the next couple of years... Still, it looked pretty darn good with just a quick sanding and a rolled on "second" coat a couple months ago. (Only filled a few of the worst "dings") That first coat, btw, was just brushed on quickly with a cheap, disposable brush to provide a "sealer coat" to protect the hull while I worked inside and on deck and to give the seams time to "settle in". It worked, and looked, far better than I expected.

[ 01-24-2003, 04:27 PM: Message edited by: Art Read ]

[redonebyme]

Thanks Concordia..41

I drank a beer or four last night going throught all of the old posts about kirbys.
I called Kirby's today and spoke to George. I told him about this thread and all of the support he is getting. I asked him for a calender and he is sending it along with the color chart!!
As for what I have read, I have become a believer. I guess the final test will be this spring when I will see for myself.

penicillin was discovered 50-60 years ago?
I don't think they have changed the recipe for that.

[redonebyme]

Thanks Concordia..41

I drank a beer or four last night going throught all of the old posts about kirbys.
I called Kirby's today and spoke to George. I told him about this thread and all of the support he is getting. I asked him for a calender and he is sending it along with the color chart!!
As for what I have read, I have become a believer. I guess the final test will be this spring when I will see for myself.

penicillin was discovered 50-60 years ago?
I don't think they have changed the recipe for that.

[redonebyme]

Thanks Concordia..41

I drank a beer or four last night going throught all of the old posts about kirbys.
I called Kirby's today and spoke to George. I told him about this thread and all of the support he is getting. I asked him for a calender and he is sending it along with the color chart!!
As for what I have read, I have become a believer. I guess the final test will be this spring when I will see for myself.

penicillin was discovered 50-60 years ago?
I don't think they have changed the recipe for that.

[Todd Bradshaw]

Thaddeus,
You can get mast hoops that fasten with machine screws, instead of rivets, and which can be installed on a standing mast. See:
http://www.pertlowell.com/wood/wood.html#mast_hoops

[Todd Bradshaw]

Thaddeus,
You can get mast hoops that fasten with machine screws, instead of rivets, and which can be installed on a standing mast. See:
http://www.pertlowell.com/wood/wood.html#mast_hoops

[Todd Bradshaw]

Thaddeus,
You can get mast hoops that fasten with machine screws, instead of rivets, and which can be installed on a standing mast. See:
http://www.pertlowell.com/wood/wood.html#mast_hoops

[Ed Neal]

Where else can you get a handwritten thank you note for an order of two quarts of paint? I was so impressed I posted it on the refrigerator door, our family's white pedestal of honor.

[Ed Neal]

Where else can you get a handwritten thank you note for an order of two quarts of paint? I was so impressed I posted it on the refrigerator door, our family's white pedestal of honor.

[Ed Neal]

Where else can you get a handwritten thank you note for an order of two quarts of paint? I was so impressed I posted it on the refrigerator door, our family's white pedestal of honor.

[Jon Agne]

Well, I think it's time to chime in here. After having tried almost all of the readily available marine paints here in the Northeast, KIRBY's is by far, hand's down the best paint available for my boat, a 25' Crosby catboat.

It lays on beautifully with excellent one-coat coverage, and has excellent adhesion. It also behaves quite nicely when you "doctor" it for hot or cold weather.

[Jon Agne]

Well, I think it's time to chime in here. After having tried almost all of the readily available marine paints here in the Northeast, KIRBY's is by far, hand's down the best paint available for my boat, a 25' Crosby catboat.

It lays on beautifully with excellent one-coat coverage, and has excellent adhesion. It also behaves quite nicely when you "doctor" it for hot or cold weather.

[Jon Agne]

Well, I think it's time to chime in here. After having tried almost all of the readily available marine paints here in the Northeast, KIRBY's is by far, hand's down the best paint available for my boat, a 25' Crosby catboat.

It lays on beautifully with excellent one-coat coverage, and has excellent adhesion. It also behaves quite nicely when you "doctor" it for hot or cold weather.

[Thaddeus J. Van Gilder]

Ian,
Thanks for the info.

I had to ask about Patience, because there just happens to be a guy who lives around here (New Jersey) with a wood boat named Patience and a name of Ian Wright. But he is Austrailian and his Patience is a 50 foot Elco. Very nice boat, but it isn't a gaffer!

how's that for a coincidence!!!!!!!

[Thaddeus J. Van Gilder]

Ian,
Thanks for the info.

I had to ask about Patience, because there just happens to be a guy who lives around here (New Jersey) with a wood boat named Patience and a name of Ian Wright. But he is Austrailian and his Patience is a 50 foot Elco. Very nice boat, but it isn't a gaffer!

how's that for a coincidence!!!!!!!

[Thaddeus J. Van Gilder]

Ian,
Thanks for the info.

I had to ask about Patience, because there just happens to be a guy who lives around here (New Jersey) with a wood boat named Patience and a name of Ian Wright. But he is Austrailian and his Patience is a 50 foot Elco. Very nice boat, but it isn't a gaffer!

how's that for a coincidence!!!!!!!

[Andrew Craig-Bennett]

Ian, if you were to bring Patience along to you-know-where and we were to recruit a couple of others, which would not be hard in you-know-where, then Mr Kirby would get a nice big order....

[Andrew Craig-Bennett]

Ian, if you were to bring Patience along to you-know-where and we were to recruit a couple of others, which would not be hard in you-know-where, then Mr Kirby would get a nice big order....

[Andrew Craig-Bennett]

Ian, if you were to bring Patience along to you-know-where and we were to recruit a couple of others, which would not be hard in you-know-where, then Mr Kirby would get a nice big order....

[Ian G Wright]

Originally posted by Andrew Craig-Bennett:
Mr Kirby would get a nice big order....Andrew,
If I can find time to fit Patience out in time for crane day 1 or crane day 2, and fit in a little sailing after the mast is stepped I WILL creep into you know where, steal a buoy downstream of you know which boat, and meet for a pint in you know what pub. Then if Mr Kirby will play ball we might have some decent paint for next year. With luck. smile.gif

IanW

[Ian G Wright]

Originally posted by Andrew Craig-Bennett:
Mr Kirby would get a nice big order....Andrew,
If I can find time to fit Patience out in time for crane day 1 or crane day 2, and fit in a little sailing after the mast is stepped I WILL creep into you know where, steal a buoy downstream of you know which boat, and meet for a pint in you know what pub. Then if Mr Kirby will play ball we might have some decent paint for next year. With luck. smile.gif

IanW

[Ian G Wright]

Originally posted by Andrew Craig-Bennett:
Mr Kirby would get a nice big order....Andrew,
If I can find time to fit Patience out in time for crane day 1 or crane day 2, and fit in a little sailing after the mast is stepped I WILL creep into you know where, steal a buoy downstream of you know which boat, and meet for a pint in you know what pub. Then if Mr Kirby will play ball we might have some decent paint for next year. With luck. smile.gif

IanW

[gert]

I don't think a technical comparison would be out of order.

[gert]

I don't think a technical comparison would be out of order.

[gert]

I don't think a technical comparison would be out of order.

[Paul]

I can highly recommend Kirby's paint. I use it on my Haven 12.5 for the topsides, decks and cockpit area. It goes on easy and looks great. But not only that it holds up well and touches up nicely.
When I was comtemplating deck colors, Scott Rosen suggested Alerion buff. I called up Kirby's and told hime what I needed, no problem.
From my experience Kirby's paint is ideal for a wooden hull. Before I used Kirbys on the topside, I had applied a coat of a well know dealer. That paint was hard and at the seams it became brittly and flaked off. Not so with Kirby's.
I have a friend that has just finished out his Haven and he used Kirby's and it looks outstanding.
Keep the modern stuff with a lot of technical data and comparision. I'll take the Kirby's where there is a history, a following and superior personal customer service.

[Paul]

I can highly recommend Kirby's paint. I use it on my Haven 12.5 for the topsides, decks and cockpit area. It goes on easy and looks great. But not only that it holds up well and touches up nicely.
When I was comtemplating deck colors, Scott Rosen suggested Alerion buff. I called up Kirby's and told hime what I needed, no problem.
From my experience Kirby's paint is ideal for a wooden hull. Before I used Kirbys on the topside, I had applied a coat of a well know dealer. That paint was hard and at the seams it became brittly and flaked off. Not so with Kirby's.
I have a friend that has just finished out his Haven and he used Kirby's and it looks outstanding.
Keep the modern stuff with a lot of technical data and comparision. I'll take the Kirby's where there is a history, a following and superior personal customer service.

[Paul]

I can highly recommend Kirby's paint. I use it on my Haven 12.5 for the topsides, decks and cockpit area. It goes on easy and looks great. But not only that it holds up well and touches up nicely.
When I was comtemplating deck colors, Scott Rosen suggested Alerion buff. I called up Kirby's and told hime what I needed, no problem.
From my experience Kirby's paint is ideal for a wooden hull. Before I used Kirbys on the topside, I had applied a coat of a well know dealer. That paint was hard and at the seams it became brittly and flaked off. Not so with Kirby's.
I have a friend that has just finished out his Haven and he used Kirby's and it looks outstanding.
Keep the modern stuff with a lot of technical data and comparision. I'll take the Kirby's where there is a history, a following and superior personal customer service.