Looking for epoxy in Mexico

[katiedobe]

I have recently moved to the southern yucatan, about 3 hours south of Cancun. I plan to build wood boats, starting with Penobscott 14 and 17´s.

My trouble is that I cannot find any epoxy for sale down here in the big city closest to me, chetumal, a city with 300,000 people in it.

Anyone know anyplace in Mexico I can order any epoxy from. I really don´t wan´t to have to have it shipped in through customs.

Thanks.

[katiedobe]

I have recently moved to the southern yucatan, about 3 hours south of Cancun. I plan to build wood boats, starting with Penobscott 14 and 17´s.

My trouble is that I cannot find any epoxy for sale down here in the big city closest to me, chetumal, a city with 300,000 people in it.

Anyone know anyplace in Mexico I can order any epoxy from. I really don´t wan´t to have to have it shipped in through customs.

Thanks.

[katiedobe]

I have recently moved to the southern yucatan, about 3 hours south of Cancun. I plan to build wood boats, starting with Penobscott 14 and 17´s.

My trouble is that I cannot find any epoxy for sale down here in the big city closest to me, chetumal, a city with 300,000 people in it.

Anyone know anyplace in Mexico I can order any epoxy from. I really don´t wan´t to have to have it shipped in through customs.

Thanks.

[Bob Cleek]

Why don't you e-mail Gougeon Bros and find out where their closest distributor or retailer is near you. They've gotta know who they are selling it to down there. I can't imagine there isn't a market for it.

[Bob Cleek]

Why don't you e-mail Gougeon Bros and find out where their closest distributor or retailer is near you. They've gotta know who they are selling it to down there. I can't imagine there isn't a market for it.

[Bob Cleek]

Why don't you e-mail Gougeon Bros and find out where their closest distributor or retailer is near you. They've gotta know who they are selling it to down there. I can't imagine there isn't a market for it.

[WayGray]

Perhaps things have changed, but I was able to order epoxy directly from Gougeon Brothers when I lived on the Atlantic coast of Panama. Customs in Panama was not a problem. I built a boat outdoors in a carport and had no problem with the epoxy, but, of course, used slow set.

[ 07-07-2005, 11:13 PM: Message edited by: WayGray ]

[WayGray]

Perhaps things have changed, but I was able to order epoxy directly from Gougeon Brothers when I lived on the Atlantic coast of Panama. Customs in Panama was not a problem. I built a boat outdoors in a carport and had no problem with the epoxy, but, of course, used slow set.

[ 07-07-2005, 11:13 PM: Message edited by: WayGray ]

[WayGray]

Perhaps things have changed, but I was able to order epoxy directly from Gougeon Brothers when I lived on the Atlantic coast of Panama. Customs in Panama was not a problem. I built a boat outdoors in a carport and had no problem with the epoxy, but, of course, used slow set.

[ 07-07-2005, 11:13 PM: Message edited by: WayGray ]

[Bruce Hooke]

The West System-Gougeon Brothers web site (http://www.westsystem.com) lists the following distributors of their products in Mexico:

Opequimar, JA De CV
Paseo De La Marina Sur SN
Marina Vallarta 48300
PUERTO VALLARTA JAL
tel: (52) 322-11800
email: opequima@prodigy.net.mx

Lanchas Deportivas De Los Barriles
La PAZ BCS

Materials Y Reff Abaroa
Abasolo Y Mavarro
La PAZ, BC
tel: (52) 170682-23640

Deslizadores San Miquel
Rio Lerma 811-b
ENSENADA BC

Marina Mart
Lote 172 Sector Cara Col
Tulistica, San Carlos
GUAYNAS, SON
tel: (52) 622-60909

[Bruce Hooke]

The West System-Gougeon Brothers web site (http://www.westsystem.com) lists the following distributors of their products in Mexico:

Opequimar, JA De CV
Paseo De La Marina Sur SN
Marina Vallarta 48300
PUERTO VALLARTA JAL
tel: (52) 322-11800
email: opequima@prodigy.net.mx

Lanchas Deportivas De Los Barriles
La PAZ BCS

Materials Y Reff Abaroa
Abasolo Y Mavarro
La PAZ, BC
tel: (52) 170682-23640

Deslizadores San Miquel
Rio Lerma 811-b
ENSENADA BC

Marina Mart
Lote 172 Sector Cara Col
Tulistica, San Carlos
GUAYNAS, SON
tel: (52) 622-60909

[Bruce Hooke]

The West System-Gougeon Brothers web site (http://www.westsystem.com) lists the following distributors of their products in Mexico:

Opequimar, JA De CV
Paseo De La Marina Sur SN
Marina Vallarta 48300
PUERTO VALLARTA JAL
tel: (52) 322-11800
email: opequima@prodigy.net.mx

Lanchas Deportivas De Los Barriles
La PAZ BCS

Materials Y Reff Abaroa
Abasolo Y Mavarro
La PAZ, BC
tel: (52) 170682-23640

Deslizadores San Miquel
Rio Lerma 811-b
ENSENADA BC

Marina Mart
Lote 172 Sector Cara Col
Tulistica, San Carlos
GUAYNAS, SON
tel: (52) 622-60909

[katiedobe]

Thanks for the info. I am stuck down here with no high speed connection. You folks remember 14.4 dial up modems. It takes a minute just to bring up the compose page on Yahoo. Slow, so internet searches are not easy.

I will call the distributors in Mexico and see what I can do about getting some shipped down here.

How did those boats in Panama hold up?

Thanks
Jimmy Clarizio (katiedobe)

[katiedobe]

Thanks for the info. I am stuck down here with no high speed connection. You folks remember 14.4 dial up modems. It takes a minute just to bring up the compose page on Yahoo. Slow, so internet searches are not easy.

I will call the distributors in Mexico and see what I can do about getting some shipped down here.

How did those boats in Panama hold up?

Thanks
Jimmy Clarizio (katiedobe)

[katiedobe]

Thanks for the info. I am stuck down here with no high speed connection. You folks remember 14.4 dial up modems. It takes a minute just to bring up the compose page on Yahoo. Slow, so internet searches are not easy.

I will call the distributors in Mexico and see what I can do about getting some shipped down here.

How did those boats in Panama hold up?

Thanks
Jimmy Clarizio (katiedobe)

[Gary E]

I am not convinced that the tag "Marine" means much on this material, and I would look to industrial users in that country and ask for their supplier.

[Gary E]

I am not convinced that the tag "Marine" means much on this material, and I would look to industrial users in that country and ask for their supplier.

[Gary E]

I am not convinced that the tag "Marine" means much on this material, and I would look to industrial users in that country and ask for their supplier.

[Bruce Hooke]

Originally posted by Gary E:
I am not convinced that the tag "Marine" means much on this material, and I would look to industrial users in that country and ask for their supplier.Maybe, but you'd better know enough about epoxy chemistry and working properties to be able to judge which industrial epoxies are at all suitable for marine uses...there are a LOT of epoxy formulations out there designed to serve a huge range of functions. Only a relatively small number are likely to be well-suited to boatbuilding.

[Bruce Hooke]

Originally posted by Gary E:
I am not convinced that the tag "Marine" means much on this material, and I would look to industrial users in that country and ask for their supplier.Maybe, but you'd better know enough about epoxy chemistry and working properties to be able to judge which industrial epoxies are at all suitable for marine uses...there are a LOT of epoxy formulations out there designed to serve a huge range of functions. Only a relatively small number are likely to be well-suited to boatbuilding.

[Bruce Hooke]

Originally posted by Gary E:
I am not convinced that the tag "Marine" means much on this material, and I would look to industrial users in that country and ask for their supplier.Maybe, but you'd better know enough about epoxy chemistry and working properties to be able to judge which industrial epoxies are at all suitable for marine uses...there are a LOT of epoxy formulations out there designed to serve a huge range of functions. Only a relatively small number are likely to be well-suited to boatbuilding.

[Gary E]

Maybe, but you'd better know enough about epoxy chemist I dont have to know any such thing to find the industrial suppliers, from that point on it gets to the spec's to select what is best...

[Gary E]

Maybe, but you'd better know enough about epoxy chemist I dont have to know any such thing to find the industrial suppliers, from that point on it gets to the spec's to select what is best...

[Gary E]

Maybe, but you'd better know enough about epoxy chemist I dont have to know any such thing to find the industrial suppliers, from that point on it gets to the spec's to select what is best...

[Bruce Hooke]

Originally posted by Gary E:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr /> Maybe, but you'd better know enough about epoxy chemist I dont have to know any such thing to find the industrial suppliers, from that point on it gets to the spec's to select what is best...</font>[/QUOTE]Maybe chemistry was the wrong word, but you need to know enough about how epoxy should function in a marine environment to be able to intelligently decide based on the spec sheets which epoxies are suitable for marine use. There is a lot more to this than just a given epoxy's resistance to water. I'd venture to say that I know more about engineering than most amateur boatbuilders and I do not feel like I know enough to judge the range in which properties like the modulus of elasticity should fall for a marine epoxy.

[Bruce Hooke]

Originally posted by Gary E:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr /> Maybe, but you'd better know enough about epoxy chemist I dont have to know any such thing to find the industrial suppliers, from that point on it gets to the spec's to select what is best...</font>[/QUOTE]Maybe chemistry was the wrong word, but you need to know enough about how epoxy should function in a marine environment to be able to intelligently decide based on the spec sheets which epoxies are suitable for marine use. There is a lot more to this than just a given epoxy's resistance to water. I'd venture to say that I know more about engineering than most amateur boatbuilders and I do not feel like I know enough to judge the range in which properties like the modulus of elasticity should fall for a marine epoxy.

[Bruce Hooke]

Originally posted by Gary E:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr /> Maybe, but you'd better know enough about epoxy chemist I dont have to know any such thing to find the industrial suppliers, from that point on it gets to the spec's to select what is best...</font>[/QUOTE]Maybe chemistry was the wrong word, but you need to know enough about how epoxy should function in a marine environment to be able to intelligently decide based on the spec sheets which epoxies are suitable for marine use. There is a lot more to this than just a given epoxy's resistance to water. I'd venture to say that I know more about engineering than most amateur boatbuilders and I do not feel like I know enough to judge the range in which properties like the modulus of elasticity should fall for a marine epoxy.

[Gary E]

I do not feel like I know enough to judge the range in which properties like the modulus of elasticity should fall for a marine epoxy. That's you, dont place the same limitations on others.

By the way, is it centistokes or SUS (Saybolt Universal Seconds) or some other measure of viscosity?... how bout Durometer or is that only for rubber?

Point is, find some industrial supplier, then go for the spec's

[Gary E]

I do not feel like I know enough to judge the range in which properties like the modulus of elasticity should fall for a marine epoxy. That's you, dont place the same limitations on others.

By the way, is it centistokes or SUS (Saybolt Universal Seconds) or some other measure of viscosity?... how bout Durometer or is that only for rubber?

Point is, find some industrial supplier, then go for the spec's

[Gary E]

I do not feel like I know enough to judge the range in which properties like the modulus of elasticity should fall for a marine epoxy. That's you, dont place the same limitations on others.

By the way, is it centistokes or SUS (Saybolt Universal Seconds) or some other measure of viscosity?... how bout Durometer or is that only for rubber?

Point is, find some industrial supplier, then go for the spec's

[Bruce Hooke]

To be blunt, I think anyone without some real engineering training or at least some benchmarks from someone with real engineering training to use as a guide to selecting suitable marine epoxy would be a damn fool to think that they know enough to decide which epoxies are suitable for marine use and which are not based on a spec sheet.

If you think you know enough to about the subject to trust your life and the life of your family and friends to your judgement on this matter then go ahead. However, I do think that anyone going this route should go in with their eyes wide open and a full awareness of what they are getting into.

Edited to add...please note that I am not telling you, Gary E., what to do, I am questioning whether it is right to tell people to go the spec sheet route without also saying something about what they should know before they try to go that route.

[ 07-08-2005, 04:21 PM: Message edited by: Bruce Hooke ]

[Bruce Hooke]

To be blunt, I think anyone without some real engineering training or at least some benchmarks from someone with real engineering training to use as a guide to selecting suitable marine epoxy would be a damn fool to think that they know enough to decide which epoxies are suitable for marine use and which are not based on a spec sheet.

If you think you know enough to about the subject to trust your life and the life of your family and friends to your judgement on this matter then go ahead. However, I do think that anyone going this route should go in with their eyes wide open and a full awareness of what they are getting into.

Edited to add...please note that I am not telling you, Gary E., what to do, I am questioning whether it is right to tell people to go the spec sheet route without also saying something about what they should know before they try to go that route.

[ 07-08-2005, 04:21 PM: Message edited by: Bruce Hooke ]

[Bruce Hooke]

To be blunt, I think anyone without some real engineering training or at least some benchmarks from someone with real engineering training to use as a guide to selecting suitable marine epoxy would be a damn fool to think that they know enough to decide which epoxies are suitable for marine use and which are not based on a spec sheet.

If you think you know enough to about the subject to trust your life and the life of your family and friends to your judgement on this matter then go ahead. However, I do think that anyone going this route should go in with their eyes wide open and a full awareness of what they are getting into.

Edited to add...please note that I am not telling you, Gary E., what to do, I am questioning whether it is right to tell people to go the spec sheet route without also saying something about what they should know before they try to go that route.

[ 07-08-2005, 04:21 PM: Message edited by: Bruce Hooke ]

[Bruce Hooke]

Originally posted by Gary E:
By the way, is it centistokes or SUS (Saybolt Universal Seconds) or some other measure of viscosity?... how bout Durometer or is that only for rubber?I haven't got a clue what centistokes and SUS are, and I bet most amatuer (and professional) boatbuilders don't either, which is exactly my point.

[Bruce Hooke]

Originally posted by Gary E:
By the way, is it centistokes or SUS (Saybolt Universal Seconds) or some other measure of viscosity?... how bout Durometer or is that only for rubber?I haven't got a clue what centistokes and SUS are, and I bet most amatuer (and professional) boatbuilders don't either, which is exactly my point.

[Bruce Hooke]

Originally posted by Gary E:
By the way, is it centistokes or SUS (Saybolt Universal Seconds) or some other measure of viscosity?... how bout Durometer or is that only for rubber?I haven't got a clue what centistokes and SUS are, and I bet most amatuer (and professional) boatbuilders don't either, which is exactly my point.

[WayGray]

My 15 1/2' boat held up fine for the three years that we were in Panama. Did have to do a minor repair when it hit a submerged log while sailing. I only used it in Lake Gatun and the semi-protected coastal bays. I sold it when we left; still looked good. The boat was painted, not finished clear, so I had a good UV block.

Today, I mentioned your situation to a coworker who has done some boatbuilding in Belize; he also said he had no problems with importing resin through customs there. But Mexico certainly could be different.

[WayGray]

My 15 1/2' boat held up fine for the three years that we were in Panama. Did have to do a minor repair when it hit a submerged log while sailing. I only used it in Lake Gatun and the semi-protected coastal bays. I sold it when we left; still looked good. The boat was painted, not finished clear, so I had a good UV block.

Today, I mentioned your situation to a coworker who has done some boatbuilding in Belize; he also said he had no problems with importing resin through customs there. But Mexico certainly could be different.

[WayGray]

My 15 1/2' boat held up fine for the three years that we were in Panama. Did have to do a minor repair when it hit a submerged log while sailing. I only used it in Lake Gatun and the semi-protected coastal bays. I sold it when we left; still looked good. The boat was painted, not finished clear, so I had a good UV block.

Today, I mentioned your situation to a coworker who has done some boatbuilding in Belize; he also said he had no problems with importing resin through customs there. But Mexico certainly could be different.

[katiedobe]

Thanks for the feed back. I was planning to paint the exterior of the hulls and leave the inside clear finished with oils. I will be able to pull the boats up into a dock house when not actually sailing/rowing.

I plan to rent these boats out to vacationers who wish to explore Laguna Bacalar.

Right now the rental options are limited to one hobie cat, canoes, and a guided (follow the leader)tour via high speed, two seater, powerboats that you get to drive.

My thougth is that there are a lot of older(over 50) couples who visit that may be willing to row but are not able to kneel down into a canoe. These Penobscot's would be perfect for that.

Anyway thanks for he info. I was also given a lead by a fisherman from Progresso (5 hours away) that they build wooden boats up there and that they use epoxista (epoxy). He and I will be traveling up there next month to check it out.
Always an adventure.

[katiedobe]

Thanks for the feed back. I was planning to paint the exterior of the hulls and leave the inside clear finished with oils. I will be able to pull the boats up into a dock house when not actually sailing/rowing.

I plan to rent these boats out to vacationers who wish to explore Laguna Bacalar.

Right now the rental options are limited to one hobie cat, canoes, and a guided (follow the leader)tour via high speed, two seater, powerboats that you get to drive.

My thougth is that there are a lot of older(over 50) couples who visit that may be willing to row but are not able to kneel down into a canoe. These Penobscot's would be perfect for that.

Anyway thanks for he info. I was also given a lead by a fisherman from Progresso (5 hours away) that they build wooden boats up there and that they use epoxista (epoxy). He and I will be traveling up there next month to check it out.
Always an adventure.

[katiedobe]

Thanks for the feed back. I was planning to paint the exterior of the hulls and leave the inside clear finished with oils. I will be able to pull the boats up into a dock house when not actually sailing/rowing.

I plan to rent these boats out to vacationers who wish to explore Laguna Bacalar.

Right now the rental options are limited to one hobie cat, canoes, and a guided (follow the leader)tour via high speed, two seater, powerboats that you get to drive.

My thougth is that there are a lot of older(over 50) couples who visit that may be willing to row but are not able to kneel down into a canoe. These Penobscot's would be perfect for that.

Anyway thanks for he info. I was also given a lead by a fisherman from Progresso (5 hours away) that they build wooden boats up there and that they use epoxista (epoxy). He and I will be traveling up there next month to check it out.
Always an adventure.