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TomasC
11-28-2005, 07:05 PM
Hello everybody. I apologise if this question has been asked already.
My dad is very interested in fly fishing and it has been a long time dream of his to build a wooden boat to use for fishing. The boat we have at the moment is a 19ft fiberglass lake boat. It is something around this length he intends to build. He is decent enough at wood work and he knows a fair bit about boats. However, he is still gathering information before he makes the commitment. I have found a lot of books with plans for existing boats or small sail boats but these are no use. I guess my question is are there any books out there that deal specifically or in detail with the construction of small, open-topped lake boats powered by an outboard and/or oars? I'm planning on buying books on the subject for my father this Christmas and any help you can offer is much appreciated.

TomasC
11-28-2005, 07:05 PM
Hello everybody. I apologise if this question has been asked already.
My dad is very interested in fly fishing and it has been a long time dream of his to build a wooden boat to use for fishing. The boat we have at the moment is a 19ft fiberglass lake boat. It is something around this length he intends to build. He is decent enough at wood work and he knows a fair bit about boats. However, he is still gathering information before he makes the commitment. I have found a lot of books with plans for existing boats or small sail boats but these are no use. I guess my question is are there any books out there that deal specifically or in detail with the construction of small, open-topped lake boats powered by an outboard and/or oars? I'm planning on buying books on the subject for my father this Christmas and any help you can offer is much appreciated.

TomasC
11-28-2005, 07:05 PM
Hello everybody. I apologise if this question has been asked already.
My dad is very interested in fly fishing and it has been a long time dream of his to build a wooden boat to use for fishing. The boat we have at the moment is a 19ft fiberglass lake boat. It is something around this length he intends to build. He is decent enough at wood work and he knows a fair bit about boats. However, he is still gathering information before he makes the commitment. I have found a lot of books with plans for existing boats or small sail boats but these are no use. I guess my question is are there any books out there that deal specifically or in detail with the construction of small, open-topped lake boats powered by an outboard and/or oars? I'm planning on buying books on the subject for my father this Christmas and any help you can offer is much appreciated.

joejapan
11-28-2005, 07:48 PM
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TomasC, you can take a look at Wooden Boat Books (http://www.woodenboatstore.com/products.asp?dept=45)(wait...it takes a few minutes to load) and see if you like any of their books. They have a pretty good selection of books on small boats.

If your Dad wants a skiff, a good place to start would be to take a look at Karl Stambaugh's book: Good Skiffs, how they're designed and built. It's a paperback that costs about $35U.S. so I'd guess that's about 23 Irish Pounds.
It starts with the history of skiffs, why and how they're designed, the different constructions techniques of rowing, sailing and motor skiffs and step-by-step instructions on how to build a 9 foot skiff with "stitch and glue".

If he's not a skiff fan, you could try to find: Building Classic Small Craft: Complete Plans and Instructions for 47 Boats. It's by John Gardner who's a fairly well respected boat builder. It shows punts, wherrys, dorys and other types of small boats.

I hope you can find something you think he'd like. Remember, if you can't find something locally, there Amazon.com but you'll have to hurry if you want to get a book delivered before Christmas.

Best of Luck ! smile.gif

joejapan
11-28-2005, 07:48 PM
.

TomasC, you can take a look at Wooden Boat Books (http://www.woodenboatstore.com/products.asp?dept=45)(wait...it takes a few minutes to load) and see if you like any of their books. They have a pretty good selection of books on small boats.

If your Dad wants a skiff, a good place to start would be to take a look at Karl Stambaugh's book: Good Skiffs, how they're designed and built. It's a paperback that costs about $35U.S. so I'd guess that's about 23 Irish Pounds.
It starts with the history of skiffs, why and how they're designed, the different constructions techniques of rowing, sailing and motor skiffs and step-by-step instructions on how to build a 9 foot skiff with "stitch and glue".

If he's not a skiff fan, you could try to find: Building Classic Small Craft: Complete Plans and Instructions for 47 Boats. It's by John Gardner who's a fairly well respected boat builder. It shows punts, wherrys, dorys and other types of small boats.

I hope you can find something you think he'd like. Remember, if you can't find something locally, there Amazon.com but you'll have to hurry if you want to get a book delivered before Christmas.

Best of Luck ! smile.gif

joejapan
11-28-2005, 07:48 PM
.

TomasC, you can take a look at Wooden Boat Books (http://www.woodenboatstore.com/products.asp?dept=45)(wait...it takes a few minutes to load) and see if you like any of their books. They have a pretty good selection of books on small boats.

If your Dad wants a skiff, a good place to start would be to take a look at Karl Stambaugh's book: Good Skiffs, how they're designed and built. It's a paperback that costs about $35U.S. so I'd guess that's about 23 Irish Pounds.
It starts with the history of skiffs, why and how they're designed, the different constructions techniques of rowing, sailing and motor skiffs and step-by-step instructions on how to build a 9 foot skiff with "stitch and glue".

If he's not a skiff fan, you could try to find: Building Classic Small Craft: Complete Plans and Instructions for 47 Boats. It's by John Gardner who's a fairly well respected boat builder. It shows punts, wherrys, dorys and other types of small boats.

I hope you can find something you think he'd like. Remember, if you can't find something locally, there Amazon.com but you'll have to hurry if you want to get a book delivered before Christmas.

Best of Luck ! smile.gif

Steve Lansdowne
11-28-2005, 08:09 PM
Here you go

http://www.duckworksbbs.com/plans/nichols/flyfisher/

Steve Lansdowne
11-28-2005, 08:09 PM
Here you go

http://www.duckworksbbs.com/plans/nichols/flyfisher/

Steve Lansdowne
11-28-2005, 08:09 PM
Here you go

http://www.duckworksbbs.com/plans/nichols/flyfisher/

RodB
11-28-2005, 08:41 PM
I conceptualized and built a flyfishing skiff over the past three years, built stitch and glue. The designer was Tracy Obrien (tracyobrien.com).

If you are not opposed to building S&G then Tracy could draw up a skiff to meet any criteria you came up with from length, beam, freeboard,etc. His designs offer great strength and stiffness with laminated sheer decks atop knees that run the length of the boat. You could not build a lighter craft with the strength his design offers.

The design you see here could be totally open, have much lower sides (freeboard), have "V" hull or not, and have whatever bottom width you required. My sheer decks are 12 inches for walking around the boat, but you could have them only 4" for stiffness fore and aft. This boat is 18 feet, 66" width bottom, FYI.

http://www.woodenboat-ubb.co m/cgi-bin/UBB/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=6&t=004450&p= (http://www.woodenboat-ubb.com/cgi-bin/UBB/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=6&t=004450&p=)

Also see the end of this thread:

http://www.woodenboat-ubb.com/ubb/ultim atebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=2;t=004222 (http://www.woodenboat-ubb.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=2;t=004222)

There are several books dealing with S&G construction...from Glen-l, Gougeon Brothers on Boat Construction, just do a search... and for tradiditional construction chekc out Greg Rossels "Building Small Boat".

RB

[ 11-28-2005, 09:06 PM: Message edited by: RodB ]

RodB
11-28-2005, 08:41 PM
I conceptualized and built a flyfishing skiff over the past three years, built stitch and glue. The designer was Tracy Obrien (tracyobrien.com).

If you are not opposed to building S&G then Tracy could draw up a skiff to meet any criteria you came up with from length, beam, freeboard,etc. His designs offer great strength and stiffness with laminated sheer decks atop knees that run the length of the boat. You could not build a lighter craft with the strength his design offers.

The design you see here could be totally open, have much lower sides (freeboard), have "V" hull or not, and have whatever bottom width you required. My sheer decks are 12 inches for walking around the boat, but you could have them only 4" for stiffness fore and aft. This boat is 18 feet, 66" width bottom, FYI.

http://www.woodenboat-ubb.co m/cgi-bin/UBB/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=6&t=004450&p= (http://www.woodenboat-ubb.com/cgi-bin/UBB/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=6&t=004450&p=)

Also see the end of this thread:

http://www.woodenboat-ubb.com/ubb/ultim atebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=2;t=004222 (http://www.woodenboat-ubb.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=2;t=004222)

There are several books dealing with S&G construction...from Glen-l, Gougeon Brothers on Boat Construction, just do a search... and for tradiditional construction chekc out Greg Rossels "Building Small Boat".

RB

[ 11-28-2005, 09:06 PM: Message edited by: RodB ]

RodB
11-28-2005, 08:41 PM
I conceptualized and built a flyfishing skiff over the past three years, built stitch and glue. The designer was Tracy Obrien (tracyobrien.com).

If you are not opposed to building S&G then Tracy could draw up a skiff to meet any criteria you came up with from length, beam, freeboard,etc. His designs offer great strength and stiffness with laminated sheer decks atop knees that run the length of the boat. You could not build a lighter craft with the strength his design offers.

The design you see here could be totally open, have much lower sides (freeboard), have "V" hull or not, and have whatever bottom width you required. My sheer decks are 12 inches for walking around the boat, but you could have them only 4" for stiffness fore and aft. This boat is 18 feet, 66" width bottom, FYI.

http://www.woodenboat-ubb.co m/cgi-bin/UBB/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=6&t=004450&p= (http://www.woodenboat-ubb.com/cgi-bin/UBB/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=6&t=004450&p=)

Also see the end of this thread:

http://www.woodenboat-ubb.com/ubb/ultim atebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=2;t=004222 (http://www.woodenboat-ubb.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=2;t=004222)

There are several books dealing with S&G construction...from Glen-l, Gougeon Brothers on Boat Construction, just do a search... and for tradiditional construction chekc out Greg Rossels "Building Small Boat".

RB

[ 11-28-2005, 09:06 PM: Message edited by: RodB ]

Al Owen
11-29-2005, 09:18 PM
I understand they have plans for this boat. As the name implies, it's built for fly fishing. As a life long fly fisherman, I don't know how your old dad could go wrong with this 16 footer. http://www.nexusmarine.com/flyfisher_construction.html

Al Owen
11-29-2005, 09:18 PM
I understand they have plans for this boat. As the name implies, it's built for fly fishing. As a life long fly fisherman, I don't know how your old dad could go wrong with this 16 footer. http://www.nexusmarine.com/flyfisher_construction.html

Al Owen
11-29-2005, 09:18 PM
I understand they have plans for this boat. As the name implies, it's built for fly fishing. As a life long fly fisherman, I don't know how your old dad could go wrong with this 16 footer. http://www.nexusmarine.com/flyfisher_construction.html

RodB
11-29-2005, 10:58 PM
Al, nice boat that Nexus...

RB

RodB
11-29-2005, 10:58 PM
Al, nice boat that Nexus...

RB

RodB
11-29-2005, 10:58 PM
Al, nice boat that Nexus...

RB

Al Owen
11-30-2005, 07:56 AM
RodB: Yes and so vary well thought out for a fly fisherman. I've got to build one, next that is, after my current project is finished. I do like the idea of the remote controlled electric motor. Tight lines all! Al Owen

[ 11-30-2005, 08:01 AM: Message edited by: Al Owen ]

Al Owen
11-30-2005, 07:56 AM
RodB: Yes and so vary well thought out for a fly fisherman. I've got to build one, next that is, after my current project is finished. I do like the idea of the remote controlled electric motor. Tight lines all! Al Owen

[ 11-30-2005, 08:01 AM: Message edited by: Al Owen ]

Al Owen
11-30-2005, 07:56 AM
RodB: Yes and so vary well thought out for a fly fisherman. I've got to build one, next that is, after my current project is finished. I do like the idea of the remote controlled electric motor. Tight lines all! Al Owen

[ 11-30-2005, 08:01 AM: Message edited by: Al Owen ]

Wiley Baggins
12-01-2005, 12:21 PM
TomasC you mention having a "lake boat." Will all fishing be done on lakes (or relatively flat water)? Two boat types you may wish to consider are drift boats (American) and Cobles (Scottish). There were good articles on each in "WoodenBoat." Drift boats were featured in issue 151 and the Scottish cobles were in issue 119. There are many sources of plans for drift boats (relatively simple construction) but the only plans I've seen for cobles were in McKee's book, "Working Boats of Britain, Their Shape and Purpose."

Wiley Baggins
12-01-2005, 12:21 PM
TomasC you mention having a "lake boat." Will all fishing be done on lakes (or relatively flat water)? Two boat types you may wish to consider are drift boats (American) and Cobles (Scottish). There were good articles on each in "WoodenBoat." Drift boats were featured in issue 151 and the Scottish cobles were in issue 119. There are many sources of plans for drift boats (relatively simple construction) but the only plans I've seen for cobles were in McKee's book, "Working Boats of Britain, Their Shape and Purpose."

Wiley Baggins
12-01-2005, 12:21 PM
TomasC you mention having a "lake boat." Will all fishing be done on lakes (or relatively flat water)? Two boat types you may wish to consider are drift boats (American) and Cobles (Scottish). There were good articles on each in "WoodenBoat." Drift boats were featured in issue 151 and the Scottish cobles were in issue 119. There are many sources of plans for drift boats (relatively simple construction) but the only plans I've seen for cobles were in McKee's book, "Working Boats of Britain, Their Shape and Purpose."

gary porter
12-01-2005, 02:12 PM
Check out the Tolman skiffs, they can and have been built anywhere from 18' to 26' open skiff or cabin cruiser. There are no plans , just buy the book which covers all the designs. They are very seaworthy and light weight for the size.
Marine ply, epoxy, glass cloth, and some solid wood.
They are heavily used in Alaska but are used and built most everywhere.
Look here at the designers page..
www.alaska.net/~tolmanskiffs/ (http://www.alaska.net/~tolmanskiffs/)
and many more that have been built here,
www.fishyfish.com/tolmanskiff.html (http://www.fishyfish.com/tolmanskiff.html)
Good Luck
Gary

gary porter
12-01-2005, 02:12 PM
Check out the Tolman skiffs, they can and have been built anywhere from 18' to 26' open skiff or cabin cruiser. There are no plans , just buy the book which covers all the designs. They are very seaworthy and light weight for the size.
Marine ply, epoxy, glass cloth, and some solid wood.
They are heavily used in Alaska but are used and built most everywhere.
Look here at the designers page..
www.alaska.net/~tolmanskiffs/ (http://www.alaska.net/~tolmanskiffs/)
and many more that have been built here,
www.fishyfish.com/tolmanskiff.html (http://www.fishyfish.com/tolmanskiff.html)
Good Luck
Gary

gary porter
12-01-2005, 02:12 PM
Check out the Tolman skiffs, they can and have been built anywhere from 18' to 26' open skiff or cabin cruiser. There are no plans , just buy the book which covers all the designs. They are very seaworthy and light weight for the size.
Marine ply, epoxy, glass cloth, and some solid wood.
They are heavily used in Alaska but are used and built most everywhere.
Look here at the designers page..
www.alaska.net/~tolmanskiffs/ (http://www.alaska.net/~tolmanskiffs/)
and many more that have been built here,
www.fishyfish.com/tolmanskiff.html (http://www.fishyfish.com/tolmanskiff.html)
Good Luck
Gary

TomasC
12-07-2005, 03:41 PM
Sorry I didnt get back to ye sooner, but my computer has been down for the last few days. Just want to thank all of ye for your help, its very much appreciated. In the end I got "Rip, Strip and Row!" from the wooden boat store, it covers a lot of the info my dad was missing. Thanks to all of ye who posted plans but its just not really what he's looking for.
Thanks again!
Tomas

TomasC
12-07-2005, 03:41 PM
Sorry I didnt get back to ye sooner, but my computer has been down for the last few days. Just want to thank all of ye for your help, its very much appreciated. In the end I got "Rip, Strip and Row!" from the wooden boat store, it covers a lot of the info my dad was missing. Thanks to all of ye who posted plans but its just not really what he's looking for.
Thanks again!
Tomas

TomasC
12-07-2005, 03:41 PM
Sorry I didnt get back to ye sooner, but my computer has been down for the last few days. Just want to thank all of ye for your help, its very much appreciated. In the end I got "Rip, Strip and Row!" from the wooden boat store, it covers a lot of the info my dad was missing. Thanks to all of ye who posted plans but its just not really what he's looking for.
Thanks again!
Tomas