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Phillip Allen
01-29-2005, 09:50 PM
I have used glass floc left over from my gunsmithing days and it worked well. I'm looking for a source of fine floc (gunsmith catalogs only offer it in small quanities at higher prices.)

Phillip Allen
01-29-2005, 09:50 PM
I have used glass floc left over from my gunsmithing days and it worked well. I'm looking for a source of fine floc (gunsmith catalogs only offer it in small quanities at higher prices.)

Phillip Allen
01-29-2005, 09:50 PM
I have used glass floc left over from my gunsmithing days and it worked well. I'm looking for a source of fine floc (gunsmith catalogs only offer it in small quanities at higher prices.)

Bob Cleek
01-29-2005, 11:11 PM
WEST Systems offers a whole line of specialty thickeners and additives, from colloidal silica (glass dust), micro-balloons, graphite, aluminum powder, and so on. Sold wherever WEST epoxy is sold. You can get the same from System 3. If you don't have a WEST retailer near you, I'm sure you can get it mail order. You might also try a Tap Plastics store, if there's one near you. Not overly expensive.

Bob Cleek
01-29-2005, 11:11 PM
WEST Systems offers a whole line of specialty thickeners and additives, from colloidal silica (glass dust), micro-balloons, graphite, aluminum powder, and so on. Sold wherever WEST epoxy is sold. You can get the same from System 3. If you don't have a WEST retailer near you, I'm sure you can get it mail order. You might also try a Tap Plastics store, if there's one near you. Not overly expensive.

Bob Cleek
01-29-2005, 11:11 PM
WEST Systems offers a whole line of specialty thickeners and additives, from colloidal silica (glass dust), micro-balloons, graphite, aluminum powder, and so on. Sold wherever WEST epoxy is sold. You can get the same from System 3. If you don't have a WEST retailer near you, I'm sure you can get it mail order. You might also try a Tap Plastics store, if there's one near you. Not overly expensive.

warthog5
01-29-2005, 11:27 PM
Gee, Why do you want to send someone to
West "bend me over" Marine?

http://fgci.com/
90206594 COTTON FLOCK,BLUE-1# TUB 1LB 4.25
90206565 COTTON FLOCK,BLUE-10# BOX 10LB 18.00

warthog5
01-29-2005, 11:27 PM
Gee, Why do you want to send someone to
West "bend me over" Marine?

http://fgci.com/
90206594 COTTON FLOCK,BLUE-1# TUB 1LB 4.25
90206565 COTTON FLOCK,BLUE-10# BOX 10LB 18.00

warthog5
01-29-2005, 11:27 PM
Gee, Why do you want to send someone to
West "bend me over" Marine?

http://fgci.com/
90206594 COTTON FLOCK,BLUE-1# TUB 1LB 4.25
90206565 COTTON FLOCK,BLUE-10# BOX 10LB 18.00

BRobinson
01-30-2005, 12:58 AM
Gee, Why do you want to send someone to
West "bend me over" Marine?
What? West Marine has no relation to WEST System.

BRobinson
01-30-2005, 12:58 AM
Gee, Why do you want to send someone to
West "bend me over" Marine?
What? West Marine has no relation to WEST System.

BRobinson
01-30-2005, 12:58 AM
Gee, Why do you want to send someone to
West "bend me over" Marine?
What? West Marine has no relation to WEST System.

RodB
01-30-2005, 01:31 AM
Defender industries has the best deal on Cabosil... check out their prices... better than System III and WEst...

RB

RodB
01-30-2005, 01:31 AM
Defender industries has the best deal on Cabosil... check out their prices... better than System III and WEst...

RB

RodB
01-30-2005, 01:31 AM
Defender industries has the best deal on Cabosil... check out their prices... better than System III and WEst...

RB

Dave Carnell
01-30-2005, 08:23 AM
Talc is a superior thickener. It bulks the resin to about double volume, sands easily, is mildly thixotropic, and is available everywhere as generic baby powder.

Dave Carnell
01-30-2005, 08:23 AM
Talc is a superior thickener. It bulks the resin to about double volume, sands easily, is mildly thixotropic, and is available everywhere as generic baby powder.

Dave Carnell
01-30-2005, 08:23 AM
Talc is a superior thickener. It bulks the resin to about double volume, sands easily, is mildly thixotropic, and is available everywhere as generic baby powder.

paul oman
01-30-2005, 09:57 AM
I don't recommend using 'cotton' fillers etc around boats. Use nothing porous that may wick water etc. into the epoxy. Industrial and chemicals learned that long ago as the cottom filler would draw acids etc. into the coating and, well you can guess.

You'll find that is why we and other other epoxy and epoxy filler suppliers typically sell poly fiber fillers and thickeners and why we thicken our best paste product with very inert Kevlar (tm) which will not wick and will not melt or burn below about 1000 degrees F.

regards
paul oman
progressive epoxy polymers
www.epoxyproducts.com/marine.html (http://www.epoxyproducts.com/marine.html)

paul oman
01-30-2005, 09:57 AM
I don't recommend using 'cotton' fillers etc around boats. Use nothing porous that may wick water etc. into the epoxy. Industrial and chemicals learned that long ago as the cottom filler would draw acids etc. into the coating and, well you can guess.

You'll find that is why we and other other epoxy and epoxy filler suppliers typically sell poly fiber fillers and thickeners and why we thicken our best paste product with very inert Kevlar (tm) which will not wick and will not melt or burn below about 1000 degrees F.

regards
paul oman
progressive epoxy polymers
www.epoxyproducts.com/marine.html (http://www.epoxyproducts.com/marine.html)

paul oman
01-30-2005, 09:57 AM
I don't recommend using 'cotton' fillers etc around boats. Use nothing porous that may wick water etc. into the epoxy. Industrial and chemicals learned that long ago as the cottom filler would draw acids etc. into the coating and, well you can guess.

You'll find that is why we and other other epoxy and epoxy filler suppliers typically sell poly fiber fillers and thickeners and why we thicken our best paste product with very inert Kevlar (tm) which will not wick and will not melt or burn below about 1000 degrees F.

regards
paul oman
progressive epoxy polymers
www.epoxyproducts.com/marine.html (http://www.epoxyproducts.com/marine.html)

Tristan
01-30-2005, 10:58 AM
I get my cabosil from a nearby resin and fiberglass dealer in Tampa, Fiberglass Coatings Inc (www.fgci.com). Prices seem good. My impression is that the better known marine supply places charge more. If you get cabosil remember that it weighs practiclly nothing and be sure you order enough as it takes quite a volumn to thicken resin. A couple pounds will get you a huge bag of the stuff. Also don't inhale it. Lowell p. Thomas, Naples, FL

Tristan
01-30-2005, 10:58 AM
I get my cabosil from a nearby resin and fiberglass dealer in Tampa, Fiberglass Coatings Inc (www.fgci.com). Prices seem good. My impression is that the better known marine supply places charge more. If you get cabosil remember that it weighs practiclly nothing and be sure you order enough as it takes quite a volumn to thicken resin. A couple pounds will get you a huge bag of the stuff. Also don't inhale it. Lowell p. Thomas, Naples, FL

Tristan
01-30-2005, 10:58 AM
I get my cabosil from a nearby resin and fiberglass dealer in Tampa, Fiberglass Coatings Inc (www.fgci.com). Prices seem good. My impression is that the better known marine supply places charge more. If you get cabosil remember that it weighs practiclly nothing and be sure you order enough as it takes quite a volumn to thicken resin. A couple pounds will get you a huge bag of the stuff. Also don't inhale it. Lowell p. Thomas, Naples, FL

Frank Wentzel
01-30-2005, 11:35 AM
Tristan

I just checked the Fiberglass Coatings ( http://fgci.com/ ) catalogue. Aerosil (same as Cabosil) $69.90/10 lb bag. That's $10 cheaper than Defender. I've dealt with them a long time. Good people, products and prices.

/// Frank ///

Frank Wentzel
01-30-2005, 11:35 AM
Tristan

I just checked the Fiberglass Coatings ( http://fgci.com/ ) catalogue. Aerosil (same as Cabosil) $69.90/10 lb bag. That's $10 cheaper than Defender. I've dealt with them a long time. Good people, products and prices.

/// Frank ///

Frank Wentzel
01-30-2005, 11:35 AM
Tristan

I just checked the Fiberglass Coatings ( http://fgci.com/ ) catalogue. Aerosil (same as Cabosil) $69.90/10 lb bag. That's $10 cheaper than Defender. I've dealt with them a long time. Good people, products and prices.

/// Frank ///

kc8pql
01-30-2005, 11:17 PM
I got cabosil from Fiberglass Coatings. 10 lbs was enough to build my 12 ton boat.

[ 01-30-2005, 11:18 PM: Message edited by: kc8pql ]

kc8pql
01-30-2005, 11:17 PM
I got cabosil from Fiberglass Coatings. 10 lbs was enough to build my 12 ton boat.

[ 01-30-2005, 11:18 PM: Message edited by: kc8pql ]

kc8pql
01-30-2005, 11:17 PM
I got cabosil from Fiberglass Coatings. 10 lbs was enough to build my 12 ton boat.

[ 01-30-2005, 11:18 PM: Message edited by: kc8pql ]

Todd Bradshaw
01-30-2005, 11:55 PM
I'd like to see the test results on epoxy saturated cotton and/or linen wicking moisture. It would be difficult to find a material that wicks epoxy deeper into itself than cotton does, which is why it really sucks-in resin like crazy. If a chunk of cedar will soak up enough resin on it's surface to be effectively "waterproof" and suitable for long term immersion, saturated cotton fiber should soak up far more. I've been using Gougeon microfibers for about 25 years for highly-stressed filling needs and have never seen any evidence of water getting into those fills whatsoever.

Todd Bradshaw
01-30-2005, 11:55 PM
I'd like to see the test results on epoxy saturated cotton and/or linen wicking moisture. It would be difficult to find a material that wicks epoxy deeper into itself than cotton does, which is why it really sucks-in resin like crazy. If a chunk of cedar will soak up enough resin on it's surface to be effectively "waterproof" and suitable for long term immersion, saturated cotton fiber should soak up far more. I've been using Gougeon microfibers for about 25 years for highly-stressed filling needs and have never seen any evidence of water getting into those fills whatsoever.

Todd Bradshaw
01-30-2005, 11:55 PM
I'd like to see the test results on epoxy saturated cotton and/or linen wicking moisture. It would be difficult to find a material that wicks epoxy deeper into itself than cotton does, which is why it really sucks-in resin like crazy. If a chunk of cedar will soak up enough resin on it's surface to be effectively "waterproof" and suitable for long term immersion, saturated cotton fiber should soak up far more. I've been using Gougeon microfibers for about 25 years for highly-stressed filling needs and have never seen any evidence of water getting into those fills whatsoever.

WayGray
01-31-2005, 09:40 PM
Thanks for bringing up this subject. I am just about ready to do some fairing and filleting. Nice to know what else can be used.

WayGray
01-31-2005, 09:40 PM
Thanks for bringing up this subject. I am just about ready to do some fairing and filleting. Nice to know what else can be used.

WayGray
01-31-2005, 09:40 PM
Thanks for bringing up this subject. I am just about ready to do some fairing and filleting. Nice to know what else can be used.