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Figment
06-03-2003, 02:57 PM
Evidently Delta has begun to market a less expensive line of tools they call "shopmaster" oriented toward non-professional use.

Has anyone laid eyes or hands on these things yet?

Specifically, I'm in the market for a 12V cordless drill.

Figment
06-03-2003, 02:57 PM
Evidently Delta has begun to market a less expensive line of tools they call "shopmaster" oriented toward non-professional use.

Has anyone laid eyes or hands on these things yet?

Specifically, I'm in the market for a 12V cordless drill.

Figment
06-03-2003, 02:57 PM
Evidently Delta has begun to market a less expensive line of tools they call "shopmaster" oriented toward non-professional use.

Has anyone laid eyes or hands on these things yet?

Specifically, I'm in the market for a 12V cordless drill.

Ed Harrow
06-03-2003, 10:51 PM
Don't know from nothing on this line of tools, but I will say, as others much smarter than I have said, "Buy the best, you'll never regret it." Cheap tools are junk. The best part of this hobby is the opportunity to buy REAL tools, LOL. If you are on a tight budget, try Ebay. I've had pretty good luck there.

Ed Harrow
06-03-2003, 10:51 PM
Don't know from nothing on this line of tools, but I will say, as others much smarter than I have said, "Buy the best, you'll never regret it." Cheap tools are junk. The best part of this hobby is the opportunity to buy REAL tools, LOL. If you are on a tight budget, try Ebay. I've had pretty good luck there.

Ed Harrow
06-03-2003, 10:51 PM
Don't know from nothing on this line of tools, but I will say, as others much smarter than I have said, "Buy the best, you'll never regret it." Cheap tools are junk. The best part of this hobby is the opportunity to buy REAL tools, LOL. If you are on a tight budget, try Ebay. I've had pretty good luck there.

imported_Steven Bauer
06-03-2003, 11:22 PM
I bought a Delta Shopmaster 14.4 volt cordless drill to keep in the house and shop. It's pretty nice, but not as nice as the new Bosch Brute 14.4 I bought recently for using on the job site. They drop the Brute repeatedly from 15 feet high onto concrete and it keeps on ticking. But the price was right for the Delta - 89 bucks. The Bosch was a hundred and eighty nine! I heard the Delta is made by Porter Cable.

Steven

imported_Steven Bauer
06-03-2003, 11:22 PM
I bought a Delta Shopmaster 14.4 volt cordless drill to keep in the house and shop. It's pretty nice, but not as nice as the new Bosch Brute 14.4 I bought recently for using on the job site. They drop the Brute repeatedly from 15 feet high onto concrete and it keeps on ticking. But the price was right for the Delta - 89 bucks. The Bosch was a hundred and eighty nine! I heard the Delta is made by Porter Cable.

Steven

imported_Steven Bauer
06-03-2003, 11:22 PM
I bought a Delta Shopmaster 14.4 volt cordless drill to keep in the house and shop. It's pretty nice, but not as nice as the new Bosch Brute 14.4 I bought recently for using on the job site. They drop the Brute repeatedly from 15 feet high onto concrete and it keeps on ticking. But the price was right for the Delta - 89 bucks. The Bosch was a hundred and eighty nine! I heard the Delta is made by Porter Cable.

Steven

Mrleft8
06-04-2003, 07:31 AM
Cordless drill? Get the DeWalt 9.6. Plenty of power, most comfortable grip, best balanced. (IMO) Stop by on your way to the "Clinton white house" ;) some day and check it out... (How IS the "Clinton white house" anyway?)

Mrleft8
06-04-2003, 07:31 AM
Cordless drill? Get the DeWalt 9.6. Plenty of power, most comfortable grip, best balanced. (IMO) Stop by on your way to the "Clinton white house" ;) some day and check it out... (How IS the "Clinton white house" anyway?)

Mrleft8
06-04-2003, 07:31 AM
Cordless drill? Get the DeWalt 9.6. Plenty of power, most comfortable grip, best balanced. (IMO) Stop by on your way to the "Clinton white house" ;) some day and check it out... (How IS the "Clinton white house" anyway?)

Figment
06-04-2003, 09:51 AM
With exception of some plants that my green-thumbed favorite aunt donated from her yard to ours, the Clinton White House remains untouched. At least, it was untouched as of Sunday. June 1st was the contract start-date, so I suppose it's possible that something has begun this week, but I haven't heard anything. Thanks for the invite. I'll take you up on it one of these days, fear not. I really want to see your progress on the Catspaw!

My primary purpose for buying this tool will be to allow me to launch next week and still continue work while out on the mooring. So, it's a mostly boatwork-oriented application, vs. shopwork. With that in mind, I want to go 12volt because someone on another board shared the positively brilliant idea of making a jumper cord to run the drill off the boat's battery, thus eliminating one of my pet peeves against cordless tools.... I never seem to have a charged battery when I need one.

DeWalt has a "compact" model 12v that's about an inch smaller than everyone else's, so that's what I have my eye on at the moment. The price on that Delta Shopmaster certainly is attractive, though!

Figment
06-04-2003, 09:51 AM
With exception of some plants that my green-thumbed favorite aunt donated from her yard to ours, the Clinton White House remains untouched. At least, it was untouched as of Sunday. June 1st was the contract start-date, so I suppose it's possible that something has begun this week, but I haven't heard anything. Thanks for the invite. I'll take you up on it one of these days, fear not. I really want to see your progress on the Catspaw!

My primary purpose for buying this tool will be to allow me to launch next week and still continue work while out on the mooring. So, it's a mostly boatwork-oriented application, vs. shopwork. With that in mind, I want to go 12volt because someone on another board shared the positively brilliant idea of making a jumper cord to run the drill off the boat's battery, thus eliminating one of my pet peeves against cordless tools.... I never seem to have a charged battery when I need one.

DeWalt has a "compact" model 12v that's about an inch smaller than everyone else's, so that's what I have my eye on at the moment. The price on that Delta Shopmaster certainly is attractive, though!

Figment
06-04-2003, 09:51 AM
With exception of some plants that my green-thumbed favorite aunt donated from her yard to ours, the Clinton White House remains untouched. At least, it was untouched as of Sunday. June 1st was the contract start-date, so I suppose it's possible that something has begun this week, but I haven't heard anything. Thanks for the invite. I'll take you up on it one of these days, fear not. I really want to see your progress on the Catspaw!

My primary purpose for buying this tool will be to allow me to launch next week and still continue work while out on the mooring. So, it's a mostly boatwork-oriented application, vs. shopwork. With that in mind, I want to go 12volt because someone on another board shared the positively brilliant idea of making a jumper cord to run the drill off the boat's battery, thus eliminating one of my pet peeves against cordless tools.... I never seem to have a charged battery when I need one.

DeWalt has a "compact" model 12v that's about an inch smaller than everyone else's, so that's what I have my eye on at the moment. The price on that Delta Shopmaster certainly is attractive, though!

Mrleft8
06-05-2003, 08:59 AM
You get what you pay for

Mrleft8
06-05-2003, 08:59 AM
You get what you pay for

Mrleft8
06-05-2003, 08:59 AM
You get what you pay for

Pelican
06-05-2003, 03:08 PM
That's what I like Mrleft8, a man of wisdom and few words. ;)

Pelican
06-05-2003, 03:08 PM
That's what I like Mrleft8, a man of wisdom and few words. ;)

Pelican
06-05-2003, 03:08 PM
That's what I like Mrleft8, a man of wisdom and few words. ;)

Dave Fleming
06-05-2003, 05:10 PM
You get what you pay for Ayup Mrxxxx, that is true.
Just last week I was looking for a bench top drill press for my very limited, can we say large storage closet in the basement of this tenament, work space?
I would have loved to spend the money on a nice 15 inch CLAUSING VS model but, that is out of the current budget. I was strolling the aisles at my local tool emporium and I spotted a nice looking Delta 12 inch VS model with a price tag of $189 USD. I checked it over, not bad castings, adjustable table height, the VS worked well 500 to 3000 RPM, a little faster than I wished, ah well.
It has that import 1/2 inch chuck with Jacobs Taper and it functioned well so I bought it.
Comes in big box with parts well labeled and the manual is not in Chinglish! It is written in real English and makes sense too. Some paint thinner to clean off the presertive goo and some time with a mill bastard file on the sharp casting edges and I turned my new toy on it ran fine.
Took out my trusty Starrett dial indicator and the runout on the chuck is acceptable for wood but I sure wouldn't be drilling out carbouretor jets with it, if ya folla?

So for me, $189 USD with my eyes wide open was reasonable for what I wish to use it for currently. Now in a few years when SWIMPAL ***finally decides to retire***, sigh, perhaps I will be selling it and moving up to that Clausing.

[ 06-05-2003, 05:16 PM: Message edited by: Dave Fleming ]

Dave Fleming
06-05-2003, 05:10 PM
You get what you pay for Ayup Mrxxxx, that is true.
Just last week I was looking for a bench top drill press for my very limited, can we say large storage closet in the basement of this tenament, work space?
I would have loved to spend the money on a nice 15 inch CLAUSING VS model but, that is out of the current budget. I was strolling the aisles at my local tool emporium and I spotted a nice looking Delta 12 inch VS model with a price tag of $189 USD. I checked it over, not bad castings, adjustable table height, the VS worked well 500 to 3000 RPM, a little faster than I wished, ah well.
It has that import 1/2 inch chuck with Jacobs Taper and it functioned well so I bought it.
Comes in big box with parts well labeled and the manual is not in Chinglish! It is written in real English and makes sense too. Some paint thinner to clean off the presertive goo and some time with a mill bastard file on the sharp casting edges and I turned my new toy on it ran fine.
Took out my trusty Starrett dial indicator and the runout on the chuck is acceptable for wood but I sure wouldn't be drilling out carbouretor jets with it, if ya folla?

So for me, $189 USD with my eyes wide open was reasonable for what I wish to use it for currently. Now in a few years when SWIMPAL ***finally decides to retire***, sigh, perhaps I will be selling it and moving up to that Clausing.

[ 06-05-2003, 05:16 PM: Message edited by: Dave Fleming ]

Dave Fleming
06-05-2003, 05:10 PM
You get what you pay for Ayup Mrxxxx, that is true.
Just last week I was looking for a bench top drill press for my very limited, can we say large storage closet in the basement of this tenament, work space?
I would have loved to spend the money on a nice 15 inch CLAUSING VS model but, that is out of the current budget. I was strolling the aisles at my local tool emporium and I spotted a nice looking Delta 12 inch VS model with a price tag of $189 USD. I checked it over, not bad castings, adjustable table height, the VS worked well 500 to 3000 RPM, a little faster than I wished, ah well.
It has that import 1/2 inch chuck with Jacobs Taper and it functioned well so I bought it.
Comes in big box with parts well labeled and the manual is not in Chinglish! It is written in real English and makes sense too. Some paint thinner to clean off the presertive goo and some time with a mill bastard file on the sharp casting edges and I turned my new toy on it ran fine.
Took out my trusty Starrett dial indicator and the runout on the chuck is acceptable for wood but I sure wouldn't be drilling out carbouretor jets with it, if ya folla?

So for me, $189 USD with my eyes wide open was reasonable for what I wish to use it for currently. Now in a few years when SWIMPAL ***finally decides to retire***, sigh, perhaps I will be selling it and moving up to that Clausing.

[ 06-05-2003, 05:16 PM: Message edited by: Dave Fleming ]

MikeV
06-05-2003, 06:58 PM
For what it's worth, I bought a Ryobi 18v cordless about 3 years ago. It has served me well. It had a two year warranty. Not Sure if this is still the case. It was $159 as opposed to the DeWalt at $269. I know it's not top of the line but it's not junk either. Not sure if that's in your range.

MikeV
06-05-2003, 06:58 PM
For what it's worth, I bought a Ryobi 18v cordless about 3 years ago. It has served me well. It had a two year warranty. Not Sure if this is still the case. It was $159 as opposed to the DeWalt at $269. I know it's not top of the line but it's not junk either. Not sure if that's in your range.

MikeV
06-05-2003, 06:58 PM
For what it's worth, I bought a Ryobi 18v cordless about 3 years ago. It has served me well. It had a two year warranty. Not Sure if this is still the case. It was $159 as opposed to the DeWalt at $269. I know it's not top of the line but it's not junk either. Not sure if that's in your range.

ErikH
06-06-2003, 11:30 AM
Delta is a tool company that specializes in fix-base "big" stuff.

If you want cordless, why buy from them? The reputatino for building a great Unisaw doesn't transfer to a cordless drill any more than i'd automatically trust makita to build a great 12" cabinet saw on their first try just because they make some great hand tools.

better to get stuff from a company taht specializes, and has lots of experience in, making tools of the type you're buying. And for a good cordless drill, there are a lot of those companies out there: dewalt, hitachi, and makita come to mind first. Delta, on the other hand, isn't even on the list.

ErikH
06-06-2003, 11:30 AM
Delta is a tool company that specializes in fix-base "big" stuff.

If you want cordless, why buy from them? The reputatino for building a great Unisaw doesn't transfer to a cordless drill any more than i'd automatically trust makita to build a great 12" cabinet saw on their first try just because they make some great hand tools.

better to get stuff from a company taht specializes, and has lots of experience in, making tools of the type you're buying. And for a good cordless drill, there are a lot of those companies out there: dewalt, hitachi, and makita come to mind first. Delta, on the other hand, isn't even on the list.

ErikH
06-06-2003, 11:30 AM
Delta is a tool company that specializes in fix-base "big" stuff.

If you want cordless, why buy from them? The reputatino for building a great Unisaw doesn't transfer to a cordless drill any more than i'd automatically trust makita to build a great 12" cabinet saw on their first try just because they make some great hand tools.

better to get stuff from a company taht specializes, and has lots of experience in, making tools of the type you're buying. And for a good cordless drill, there are a lot of those companies out there: dewalt, hitachi, and makita come to mind first. Delta, on the other hand, isn't even on the list.