Whazzit tool?

[Hughman]

Found this in the bottom of a box of stuff. Anyone know what it is?

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid193/p4cfeeb2452951368fe31ef0943828a9e/f19b8e7d.jpg

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid193/p1c85cd5e17382a595d9a4485f97ca015/f19b8ece.jpg

[Hughman]

Found this in the bottom of a box of stuff. Anyone know what it is?

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid193/p4cfeeb2452951368fe31ef0943828a9e/f19b8e7d.jpg

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid193/p1c85cd5e17382a595d9a4485f97ca015/f19b8ece.jpg

[Hughman]

Found this in the bottom of a box of stuff. Anyone know what it is?

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid193/p4cfeeb2452951368fe31ef0943828a9e/f19b8e7d.jpg

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid193/p1c85cd5e17382a595d9a4485f97ca015/f19b8ece.jpg

[Tom M.]

Holds a file to joint a panel saw's teeth before recutting them.

[Tom M.]

Holds a file to joint a panel saw's teeth before recutting them.

[Tom M.]

Holds a file to joint a panel saw's teeth before recutting them.

[AngWood]

Banana straightener.

[AngWood]

Banana straightener.

[AngWood]

Banana straightener.

[dmede]

No idea what it's for... but I have one just like it! Well, I have the ruler thingy anyway. I think it's a type layout ruler (for Point type).

We have a few in my office, relics of an earlier time when our maps were all hand drawn on linen or etched in mylar. I use mine as a straightedge :D

[dmede]

No idea what it's for... but I have one just like it! Well, I have the ruler thingy anyway. I think it's a type layout ruler (for Point type).

We have a few in my office, relics of an earlier time when our maps were all hand drawn on linen or etched in mylar. I use mine as a straightedge :D

[dmede]

No idea what it's for... but I have one just like it! Well, I have the ruler thingy anyway. I think it's a type layout ruler (for Point type).

We have a few in my office, relics of an earlier time when our maps were all hand drawn on linen or etched in mylar. I use mine as a straightedge :D

[Pernicious Atavist]

Gronicle recalibrater, but only for the larbd gronicle; stbd one is simlar, but the (duh) reverse of this'n

[Pernicious Atavist]

Gronicle recalibrater, but only for the larbd gronicle; stbd one is simlar, but the (duh) reverse of this'n

[Pernicious Atavist]

Gronicle recalibrater, but only for the larbd gronicle; stbd one is simlar, but the (duh) reverse of this'n

[Hughman]

Originally posted by Tom M.:
Holds a file to joint a panel saw's teeth before recutting them.Tom, this is a jig for filing the saw teeth. The gadget above doesn't seem to have this function.

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid193/pfb88dfb5662bc6114c2b5893ef41bd13/f18fd350.jpg

[Hughman]

Originally posted by Tom M.:
Holds a file to joint a panel saw's teeth before recutting them.Tom, this is a jig for filing the saw teeth. The gadget above doesn't seem to have this function.

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid193/pfb88dfb5662bc6114c2b5893ef41bd13/f18fd350.jpg

[Hughman]

Originally posted by Tom M.:
Holds a file to joint a panel saw's teeth before recutting them.Tom, this is a jig for filing the saw teeth. The gadget above doesn't seem to have this function.

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid193/pfb88dfb5662bc6114c2b5893ef41bd13/f18fd350.jpg

[Tom M.]

I have the tool shown in your first post Hughman. I thought it was for jointing a panels saw's teeth. But I guess I misunderstood when my dad told me what it was for years ago. I tried clamping a mill file in it, but that doesn't work quite right. I asked another old timer today, and he said it was a gauge for a misery whip (those old long whippy logger's saws). I have one of those down in the basement. I'll try to figure out how it was used.

[Tom M.]

I have the tool shown in your first post Hughman. I thought it was for jointing a panels saw's teeth. But I guess I misunderstood when my dad told me what it was for years ago. I tried clamping a mill file in it, but that doesn't work quite right. I asked another old timer today, and he said it was a gauge for a misery whip (those old long whippy logger's saws). I have one of those down in the basement. I'll try to figure out how it was used.

[Tom M.]

I have the tool shown in your first post Hughman. I thought it was for jointing a panels saw's teeth. But I guess I misunderstood when my dad told me what it was for years ago. I tried clamping a mill file in it, but that doesn't work quite right. I asked another old timer today, and he said it was a gauge for a misery whip (those old long whippy logger's saws). I have one of those down in the basement. I'll try to figure out how it was used.

[ssor]

I have seen those never have known what they were for always figured they were what was left after a fire burned out all the wood. I haven't seen one that didn't look like it had been caught in a fire.

[ssor]

I have seen those never have known what they were for always figured they were what was left after a fire burned out all the wood. I haven't seen one that didn't look like it had been caught in a fire.

[ssor]

I have seen those never have known what they were for always figured they were what was left after a fire burned out all the wood. I haven't seen one that didn't look like it had been caught in a fire.

[Ron Williamson]

Continuing Tom's thought...
Could you use it to gauge(and file) the height of the rakers on that misery whip?
IIRC, they should be a few thou. lower than the other teeth.
R

[Ron Williamson]

Continuing Tom's thought...
Could you use it to gauge(and file) the height of the rakers on that misery whip?
IIRC, they should be a few thou. lower than the other teeth.
R

[Ron Williamson]

Continuing Tom's thought...
Could you use it to gauge(and file) the height of the rakers on that misery whip?
IIRC, they should be a few thou. lower than the other teeth.
R

[Mike DeHart]

It is exactly for filing the rakers on a "misery whip" or other similar large crosscut saw. The teeth are first jointed then pointed and set. I have a tool similar that does also hold a mill file for jointing. The rakers are then filed using the tool. The tool is placed on the teeth so a raker sticks through the slot with the tool body held square to the face of the saw blade. The slot material is hardened so a file won't cut it. File the raker flush to the slot until the file skates over the slot material. This will place the rakers at an even height below the points of the teeth. This distance is usually adjustable by a screw or two- deeper raker for soft wood, shallower for hard wood. Remove the tool and file the V between raker points until points are just sharp. A very slight peening of the raker points will turn a bit of a burr that will help them to shave out the chips.

At least that is how I learned it.

[Mike DeHart]

It is exactly for filing the rakers on a "misery whip" or other similar large crosscut saw. The teeth are first jointed then pointed and set. I have a tool similar that does also hold a mill file for jointing. The rakers are then filed using the tool. The tool is placed on the teeth so a raker sticks through the slot with the tool body held square to the face of the saw blade. The slot material is hardened so a file won't cut it. File the raker flush to the slot until the file skates over the slot material. This will place the rakers at an even height below the points of the teeth. This distance is usually adjustable by a screw or two- deeper raker for soft wood, shallower for hard wood. Remove the tool and file the V between raker points until points are just sharp. A very slight peening of the raker points will turn a bit of a burr that will help them to shave out the chips.

At least that is how I learned it.

[Mike DeHart]

It is exactly for filing the rakers on a "misery whip" or other similar large crosscut saw. The teeth are first jointed then pointed and set. I have a tool similar that does also hold a mill file for jointing. The rakers are then filed using the tool. The tool is placed on the teeth so a raker sticks through the slot with the tool body held square to the face of the saw blade. The slot material is hardened so a file won't cut it. File the raker flush to the slot until the file skates over the slot material. This will place the rakers at an even height below the points of the teeth. This distance is usually adjustable by a screw or two- deeper raker for soft wood, shallower for hard wood. Remove the tool and file the V between raker points until points are just sharp. A very slight peening of the raker points will turn a bit of a burr that will help them to shave out the chips.

At least that is how I learned it.

[Lucky Luke]

Originally posted by Mike DeHart:
A very slight peening of the raker points will turn a bit of a burr that will help them to shave out the chips....:confused: :eek: :confused: :confused:
Garrgggllllbbblll!!!...Is THIS English????????

[ 11-17-2005, 10:08 PM: Message edited by: Lucky Luke ]

[Lucky Luke]

Originally posted by Mike DeHart:
A very slight peening of the raker points will turn a bit of a burr that will help them to shave out the chips....:confused: :eek: :confused: :confused:
Garrgggllllbbblll!!!...Is THIS English????????

[ 11-17-2005, 10:08 PM: Message edited by: Lucky Luke ]

[Lucky Luke]

Originally posted by Mike DeHart:
A very slight peening of the raker points will turn a bit of a burr that will help them to shave out the chips....:confused: :eek: :confused: :confused:
Garrgggllllbbblll!!!...Is THIS English????????

[ 11-17-2005, 10:08 PM: Message edited by: Lucky Luke ]

[AngWood]

Banana straightener.

[AngWood]

Banana straightener.

[AngWood]

Banana straightener.

[Mike DeHart]

Originally posted by Lucky Luke:
[QUOTE]Garrgggllllbbblll!!!...Is THIS English????????Ummm...I guess that did come off a bit cryptic. This place 'splains it much better than I can:

http://jonzimmersantiquetools.com/features/saw_filing.html

[Mike DeHart]

Originally posted by Lucky Luke:
[QUOTE]Garrgggllllbbblll!!!...Is THIS English????????Ummm...I guess that did come off a bit cryptic. This place 'splains it much better than I can:

http://jonzimmersantiquetools.com/features/saw_filing.html

[Mike DeHart]

Originally posted by Lucky Luke:
[QUOTE]Garrgggllllbbblll!!!...Is THIS English????????Ummm...I guess that did come off a bit cryptic. This place 'splains it much better than I can:

http://jonzimmersantiquetools.com/features/saw_filing.html

[Hughman]

Originally posted by Mike DeHart:


http://jonzimmersantiquetools.com/features/saw_filing .ht ml (http://jonzimmersantiquetools.com/features/saw_filing.html)Wow! This is a keeper!

Thanks, to all smile.gif

[ 11-18-2005, 06:28 PM: Message edited by: Hughman ]

[Hughman]

Originally posted by Mike DeHart:


http://jonzimmersantiquetools.com/features/saw_filing .ht ml (http://jonzimmersantiquetools.com/features/saw_filing.html)Wow! This is a keeper!

Thanks, to all smile.gif

[ 11-18-2005, 06:28 PM: Message edited by: Hughman ]

[Hughman]

Originally posted by Mike DeHart:


http://jonzimmersantiquetools.com/features/saw_filing .ht ml (http://jonzimmersantiquetools.com/features/saw_filing.html)Wow! This is a keeper!

Thanks, to all smile.gif

[ 11-18-2005, 06:28 PM: Message edited by: Hughman ]

[Tom M.]

The Forum comes through again. Thanks Mike. After reading your description, I finally put all the pieces together. Here are some pics of mine:


http://static.flickr.com/27/64899548_3dae8d3f00_m.jpg

My gauge has a more complicated file clamp than Hughman's. The paper shims were commonly used according to a couple guys I asked:

http://static.flickr.com/35/64899549_7b7d4c9ee5_m.jpg

Positioned on the saw over the rakers:
http://static.flickr.com/28/64899552_76fa496543_m.jpg

Tightening the mill file clamp to adjust the curve for jointing...curved because these saws were curved, unlike a panel saw:

http://static.flickr.com/32/64899553_c175a12de2_m.jpg

The curve:
http://static.flickr.com/33/64899554_6e0dc83849_m.jpg

Jointing:
http://static.flickr.com/26/64900491_467b2c9d38_m.jpg

I think the 12 inch file I'm using is too long because the ends aren't supported adequately. An 8 inch seems right for this gauge.

Of course, I have the process posted out of sequence :rolleyes: . Joint, THEN do the rest :D .

[Tom M.]

The Forum comes through again. Thanks Mike. After reading your description, I finally put all the pieces together. Here are some pics of mine:


http://static.flickr.com/27/64899548_3dae8d3f00_m.jpg

My gauge has a more complicated file clamp than Hughman's. The paper shims were commonly used according to a couple guys I asked:

http://static.flickr.com/35/64899549_7b7d4c9ee5_m.jpg

Positioned on the saw over the rakers:
http://static.flickr.com/28/64899552_76fa496543_m.jpg

Tightening the mill file clamp to adjust the curve for jointing...curved because these saws were curved, unlike a panel saw:

http://static.flickr.com/32/64899553_c175a12de2_m.jpg

The curve:
http://static.flickr.com/33/64899554_6e0dc83849_m.jpg

Jointing:
http://static.flickr.com/26/64900491_467b2c9d38_m.jpg

I think the 12 inch file I'm using is too long because the ends aren't supported adequately. An 8 inch seems right for this gauge.

Of course, I have the process posted out of sequence :rolleyes: . Joint, THEN do the rest :D .

[Tom M.]

The Forum comes through again. Thanks Mike. After reading your description, I finally put all the pieces together. Here are some pics of mine:


http://static.flickr.com/27/64899548_3dae8d3f00_m.jpg

My gauge has a more complicated file clamp than Hughman's. The paper shims were commonly used according to a couple guys I asked:

http://static.flickr.com/35/64899549_7b7d4c9ee5_m.jpg

Positioned on the saw over the rakers:
http://static.flickr.com/28/64899552_76fa496543_m.jpg

Tightening the mill file clamp to adjust the curve for jointing...curved because these saws were curved, unlike a panel saw:

http://static.flickr.com/32/64899553_c175a12de2_m.jpg

The curve:
http://static.flickr.com/33/64899554_6e0dc83849_m.jpg

Jointing:
http://static.flickr.com/26/64900491_467b2c9d38_m.jpg

I think the 12 inch file I'm using is too long because the ends aren't supported adequately. An 8 inch seems right for this gauge.

Of course, I have the process posted out of sequence :rolleyes: . Joint, THEN do the rest :D .