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Jim H
01-16-2003, 12:23 PM
Does anyone know who has the best selection of whipping?
Jim H
01-16-2003, 12:23 PM
Does anyone know who has the best selection of whipping?
Jim H
01-16-2003, 12:23 PM
Does anyone know who has the best selection of whipping?
http://www.bondage.com
:D
http://www.bondage.com
:D
http://www.bondage.com
:D
ishmael
01-16-2003, 12:35 PM
:D
I assume you mean methods of whipping line? :D
Try Roger Taylor's book, Knowing the Ropes , if I'm not mistaken. It's sumpthin' like that. I think it's the best short reference for running rigging. He only tells ya what you really need to know--and he knows.
Chapman's would have several ways to whip the end of a line, but Taylor's book is a little gem.
ishmael
01-16-2003, 12:35 PM
:D
I assume you mean methods of whipping line? :D
Try Roger Taylor's book, Knowing the Ropes , if I'm not mistaken. It's sumpthin' like that. I think it's the best short reference for running rigging. He only tells ya what you really need to know--and he knows.
Chapman's would have several ways to whip the end of a line, but Taylor's book is a little gem.
ishmael
01-16-2003, 12:35 PM
:D
I assume you mean methods of whipping line? :D
Try Roger Taylor's book, Knowing the Ropes , if I'm not mistaken. It's sumpthin' like that. I think it's the best short reference for running rigging. He only tells ya what you really need to know--and he knows.
Chapman's would have several ways to whip the end of a line, but Taylor's book is a little gem.
Chris Coose
01-16-2003, 01:36 PM
http://store.hamiltonmarine.com/browse.cfm?
Touche' Donn. That was my first thought.
Twisted bunch!
Chris Coose
01-16-2003, 01:36 PM
http://store.hamiltonmarine.com/browse.cfm?
Touche' Donn. That was my first thought.
Twisted bunch!
Chris Coose
01-16-2003, 01:36 PM
http://store.hamiltonmarine.com/browse.cfm?
Touche' Donn. That was my first thought.
Twisted bunch!
Roger Stouff
01-17-2003, 06:45 AM
:D Been waiting long for that chance, Don?
Roger Stouff
01-17-2003, 06:45 AM
:D Been waiting long for that chance, Don?
Roger Stouff
01-17-2003, 06:45 AM
:D Been waiting long for that chance, Don?
Jim H
01-17-2003, 11:55 AM
Originally posted by LOON:
http://www.bondage.com
:D You should see that forum! I did'nt sleep at all last night... ;)
Jim H
01-17-2003, 11:55 AM
Originally posted by LOON:
http://www.bondage.com
:D You should see that forum! I did'nt sleep at all last night... ;)
Jim H
01-17-2003, 11:55 AM
Originally posted by LOON:
http://www.bondage.com
:D You should see that forum! I did'nt sleep at all last night... ;)
I didn't know it was a real website until today. :D
I didn't know it was a real website until today. :D
I didn't know it was a real website until today. :D
Jim H
01-17-2003, 11:59 AM
OK OK minds outa the gutter, it's getting crowded down here. :D
Specifically I was looking for No. 16 black waxed whiping twine. I have some in white but Boats/U.S. does not have the black.
Chris I looked at Hamilton but did'nt see it on the web site, maybe I'll call them this afternoon.
Thanks,
Jim
Jim H
01-17-2003, 11:59 AM
OK OK minds outa the gutter, it's getting crowded down here. :D
Specifically I was looking for No. 16 black waxed whiping twine. I have some in white but Boats/U.S. does not have the black.
Chris I looked at Hamilton but did'nt see it on the web site, maybe I'll call them this afternoon.
Thanks,
Jim
Jim H
01-17-2003, 11:59 AM
OK OK minds outa the gutter, it's getting crowded down here. :D
Specifically I was looking for No. 16 black waxed whiping twine. I have some in white but Boats/U.S. does not have the black.
Chris I looked at Hamilton but did'nt see it on the web site, maybe I'll call them this afternoon.
Thanks,
Jim
Marlow Whipping Twine, in black...but it doesn't give the weight:
http://www.berkeleypoint.com/products/tools/tae.html
Marlow Whipping Twine, in black...but it doesn't give the weight:
http://www.berkeleypoint.com/products/tools/tae.html
Marlow Whipping Twine, in black...but it doesn't give the weight:
http://www.berkeleypoint.com/products/tools/tae.html
Jim H
01-17-2003, 12:45 PM
Thanks Donn, the No. 16 only comes in white. The black is No. 4. Oh well I'll just have to make do.
Thanks,
Jim
Jim H
01-17-2003, 12:45 PM
Thanks Donn, the No. 16 only comes in white. The black is No. 4. Oh well I'll just have to make do.
Thanks,
Jim
Jim H
01-17-2003, 12:45 PM
Thanks Donn, the No. 16 only comes in white. The black is No. 4. Oh well I'll just have to make do.
Thanks,
Jim
Dave Hadfield
01-18-2003, 10:47 AM
Doc Freeman's in Seattle and many other commercial fisherman outfitters (Redden Net and Twine in Vancouver) sell tarred nylon in all the different weights. That's what I've been using.
But I've gone from rope's end whipping to the double constrictor knot, tied in the bight, pulled very tight with pliers. Then cut the tails off at 1/4", melt them with a lighter, then wet your finger and mash the melted tail into a little "button" that can't get back the way it came.
This just doesn't come undone and takes only seconds.
Dave Hadfield
01-18-2003, 10:47 AM
Doc Freeman's in Seattle and many other commercial fisherman outfitters (Redden Net and Twine in Vancouver) sell tarred nylon in all the different weights. That's what I've been using.
But I've gone from rope's end whipping to the double constrictor knot, tied in the bight, pulled very tight with pliers. Then cut the tails off at 1/4", melt them with a lighter, then wet your finger and mash the melted tail into a little "button" that can't get back the way it came.
This just doesn't come undone and takes only seconds.
Dave Hadfield
01-18-2003, 10:47 AM
Doc Freeman's in Seattle and many other commercial fisherman outfitters (Redden Net and Twine in Vancouver) sell tarred nylon in all the different weights. That's what I've been using.
But I've gone from rope's end whipping to the double constrictor knot, tied in the bight, pulled very tight with pliers. Then cut the tails off at 1/4", melt them with a lighter, then wet your finger and mash the melted tail into a little "button" that can't get back the way it came.
This just doesn't come undone and takes only seconds.
Nicholas Carey
01-19-2003, 01:31 AM
That's lubberly.
Why not take the time to learn to put in a whipping properly -- it doesn't take long and it will last considerably longer than the constrictor.
And the butane backsplice you put in is hard, has sharp edges and is warranted to chafe.
Nicholas Carey
01-19-2003, 01:31 AM
That's lubberly.
Why not take the time to learn to put in a whipping properly -- it doesn't take long and it will last considerably longer than the constrictor.
And the butane backsplice you put in is hard, has sharp edges and is warranted to chafe.
Nicholas Carey
01-19-2003, 01:31 AM
That's lubberly.
Why not take the time to learn to put in a whipping properly -- it doesn't take long and it will last considerably longer than the constrictor.
And the butane backsplice you put in is hard, has sharp edges and is warranted to chafe.
Mike Field
01-19-2003, 04:40 AM
Jim
I don't know what weight it is, but Marlow do indeed have a heavy one as Donn says, and that's just how they classify it -- "heavy." It's available in a few colours. Unfortunately, it's not mentioned anywhere on their website (which is pretty-well useless anyway, I regret to say.)
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Nicholas
That you're quite a knowledgeable bloke about some maritime matters has become clear from several of your posts.
But from blunt replies like that one, I didn't need to read your Profile to learn that you're in IT. Do you think a little bit of thought before speaking out so didactically would possibly have more people paying attention to what you have to say? A modicum of tact usually helps the social wheels go round.
As it happens, I think basically I agree with you. On the other hand, I've used Dave's method too and it has a lot to recommend it -- it's faster than any whipping, and it's considerably stronger than a plain one.
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Mike
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Mike Field
01-19-2003, 04:40 AM
Jim
I don't know what weight it is, but Marlow do indeed have a heavy one as Donn says, and that's just how they classify it -- "heavy." It's available in a few colours. Unfortunately, it's not mentioned anywhere on their website (which is pretty-well useless anyway, I regret to say.)
____________
Nicholas
That you're quite a knowledgeable bloke about some maritime matters has become clear from several of your posts.
But from blunt replies like that one, I didn't need to read your Profile to learn that you're in IT. Do you think a little bit of thought before speaking out so didactically would possibly have more people paying attention to what you have to say? A modicum of tact usually helps the social wheels go round.
As it happens, I think basically I agree with you. On the other hand, I've used Dave's method too and it has a lot to recommend it -- it's faster than any whipping, and it's considerably stronger than a plain one.
.
Mike
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Mike Field
01-19-2003, 04:40 AM
Jim
I don't know what weight it is, but Marlow do indeed have a heavy one as Donn says, and that's just how they classify it -- "heavy." It's available in a few colours. Unfortunately, it's not mentioned anywhere on their website (which is pretty-well useless anyway, I regret to say.)
____________
Nicholas
That you're quite a knowledgeable bloke about some maritime matters has become clear from several of your posts.
But from blunt replies like that one, I didn't need to read your Profile to learn that you're in IT. Do you think a little bit of thought before speaking out so didactically would possibly have more people paying attention to what you have to say? A modicum of tact usually helps the social wheels go round.
As it happens, I think basically I agree with you. On the other hand, I've used Dave's method too and it has a lot to recommend it -- it's faster than any whipping, and it's considerably stronger than a plain one.
.
Mike
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Dave Hadfield
01-19-2003, 07:04 PM
Well Nicholas, I disagree. I do know how to put in a whipping. I used to do it all the time (and still do siezings, of course), but once I learned the double-constrictor (not the single) I was so impressed by its effectiveness that I instantly adopted it.
I don't melt the ends of the rope. I don't like that either. I melt the ends of the twine and then push them down flat. This means they can't loosen, period. This knot lasts until the cord disintegrates. It doesn't unravel, at least not done this way -- not that I've encountered. I can't say the same for traditional whippings, though.
Dave Hadfield
01-19-2003, 07:04 PM
Well Nicholas, I disagree. I do know how to put in a whipping. I used to do it all the time (and still do siezings, of course), but once I learned the double-constrictor (not the single) I was so impressed by its effectiveness that I instantly adopted it.
I don't melt the ends of the rope. I don't like that either. I melt the ends of the twine and then push them down flat. This means they can't loosen, period. This knot lasts until the cord disintegrates. It doesn't unravel, at least not done this way -- not that I've encountered. I can't say the same for traditional whippings, though.
Dave Hadfield
01-19-2003, 07:04 PM
Well Nicholas, I disagree. I do know how to put in a whipping. I used to do it all the time (and still do siezings, of course), but once I learned the double-constrictor (not the single) I was so impressed by its effectiveness that I instantly adopted it.
I don't melt the ends of the rope. I don't like that either. I melt the ends of the twine and then push them down flat. This means they can't loosen, period. This knot lasts until the cord disintegrates. It doesn't unravel, at least not done this way -- not that I've encountered. I can't say the same for traditional whippings, though.
Dave Hadfield
01-20-2003, 09:53 AM
Here's an illustration: http://www.realknots.com/knots/constric.htm#Xconstrictor
Dave Hadfield
01-20-2003, 09:53 AM
Here's an illustration: http://www.realknots.com/knots/constric.htm#Xconstrictor
Dave Hadfield
01-20-2003, 09:53 AM
Here's an illustration: http://www.realknots.com/knots/constric.htm#Xconstrictor
Ian G Wright
01-20-2003, 12:39 PM
Odd, very odd,,,,,,
My sailmaker introduced me to his, and now my, favourite whipping twine and it comes from the US! All sizes, many twists including flat(untwisted). Waxed or unwaxed. Problem is I forget the name,,,,,,,
I should be at the boat soon and will examine the label.
IanW
Ian G Wright
01-20-2003, 12:39 PM
Odd, very odd,,,,,,
My sailmaker introduced me to his, and now my, favourite whipping twine and it comes from the US! All sizes, many twists including flat(untwisted). Waxed or unwaxed. Problem is I forget the name,,,,,,,
I should be at the boat soon and will examine the label.
IanW
Ian G Wright
01-20-2003, 12:39 PM
Odd, very odd,,,,,,
My sailmaker introduced me to his, and now my, favourite whipping twine and it comes from the US! All sizes, many twists including flat(untwisted). Waxed or unwaxed. Problem is I forget the name,,,,,,,
I should be at the boat soon and will examine the label.
IanW
Jim H
01-20-2003, 05:04 PM
Thanks Ian, I appreciate it.
Jim
Jim H
01-20-2003, 05:04 PM
Thanks Ian, I appreciate it.
Jim
Jim H
01-20-2003, 05:04 PM
Thanks Ian, I appreciate it.
Jim
Jim H
01-21-2003, 03:13 PM
Ian, might it be Wallace Cordage Company of Covington, Tn.? The last place I ever expected to see this was Academy Sporting Goods. #15 tarred nylon twine, 120Lbs test.
Jim
Jim H
01-21-2003, 03:13 PM
Ian, might it be Wallace Cordage Company of Covington, Tn.? The last place I ever expected to see this was Academy Sporting Goods. #15 tarred nylon twine, 120Lbs test.
Jim
Jim H
01-21-2003, 03:13 PM
Ian, might it be Wallace Cordage Company of Covington, Tn.? The last place I ever expected to see this was Academy Sporting Goods. #15 tarred nylon twine, 120Lbs test.
Jim
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