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I need to know what type of decals people are using for the back of wooden boats. I need to put one on a boat and varnish over it like most other people but, the sign shop says that I can't varnish over vinyl. I would like a thinner material but he says 1 ml. is really hard to handle and when stacked for the two coloured effect, it becomes 2 ml.
Any suggestions?
Jim
I need to know what type of decals people are using for the back of wooden boats. I need to put one on a boat and varnish over it like most other people but, the sign shop says that I can't varnish over vinyl. I would like a thinner material but he says 1 ml. is really hard to handle and when stacked for the two coloured effect, it becomes 2 ml.
Any suggestions?
Jim
I need to know what type of decals people are using for the back of wooden boats. I need to put one on a boat and varnish over it like most other people but, the sign shop says that I can't varnish over vinyl. I would like a thinner material but he says 1 ml. is really hard to handle and when stacked for the two coloured effect, it becomes 2 ml.
Any suggestions?
Jim
Dale Genther
06-13-2003, 08:59 AM
Sign painters paint instead of decals. You can varnish over the paint.
Dale Genther
06-13-2003, 08:59 AM
Sign painters paint instead of decals. You can varnish over the paint.
Dale Genther
06-13-2003, 08:59 AM
Sign painters paint instead of decals. You can varnish over the paint.
ErikH
06-13-2003, 09:26 AM
Paint, gold leaf, carved sign board, etc. I wonder if a vinyl sign place could supply you with a template to use for stenciling... after all, they are cutting out the letters for a sign.... maybe taht way you'd have an outline to use for tracing, before you paint.
Or just varnish first and put the sign on later.
ErikH
06-13-2003, 09:26 AM
Paint, gold leaf, carved sign board, etc. I wonder if a vinyl sign place could supply you with a template to use for stenciling... after all, they are cutting out the letters for a sign.... maybe taht way you'd have an outline to use for tracing, before you paint.
Or just varnish first and put the sign on later.
ErikH
06-13-2003, 09:26 AM
Paint, gold leaf, carved sign board, etc. I wonder if a vinyl sign place could supply you with a template to use for stenciling... after all, they are cutting out the letters for a sign.... maybe taht way you'd have an outline to use for tracing, before you paint.
Or just varnish first and put the sign on later.
Concordia..41
06-13-2003, 05:00 PM
Get a second opinion from another sign shop. With all the different products out there I don't know how they can give a blanket answer like that.
(Norm if you're reading this, I tried my best to answer the actual question asked. I really did. Honest. And please note the considerable restraint shown in not commenting on the multitude of varnish issues, appropriate brushes, etc. tongue.gif )
- M
Whew - Thanks Capt'n :D
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Concordia..41
06-13-2003, 05:00 PM
Get a second opinion from another sign shop. With all the different products out there I don't know how they can give a blanket answer like that.
(Norm if you're reading this, I tried my best to answer the actual question asked. I really did. Honest. And please note the considerable restraint shown in not commenting on the multitude of varnish issues, appropriate brushes, etc. tongue.gif )
- M
Whew - Thanks Capt'n :D
[ 06-13-2003, 09:06 PM: Message edited by: Concordia..41 ]
Concordia..41
06-13-2003, 05:00 PM
Get a second opinion from another sign shop. With all the different products out there I don't know how they can give a blanket answer like that.
(Norm if you're reading this, I tried my best to answer the actual question asked. I really did. Honest. And please note the considerable restraint shown in not commenting on the multitude of varnish issues, appropriate brushes, etc. tongue.gif )
- M
Whew - Thanks Capt'n :D
[ 06-13-2003, 09:06 PM: Message edited by: Concordia..41 ]
Captain Pre-Capsize
06-13-2003, 05:26 PM
Concordia: I know you gave it your best shot but egad (!) there is a typo in your post. Quick, fix it before Norm notices. tongue.gif You're a good sport Norm. This is called entertainment. :D
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Captain Pre-Capsize
06-13-2003, 05:26 PM
Concordia: I know you gave it your best shot but egad (!) there is a typo in your post. Quick, fix it before Norm notices. tongue.gif You're a good sport Norm. This is called entertainment. :D
[ 06-13-2003, 06:28 PM: Message edited by: Captain Pre-Capsize ]
Captain Pre-Capsize
06-13-2003, 05:26 PM
Concordia: I know you gave it your best shot but egad (!) there is a typo in your post. Quick, fix it before Norm notices. tongue.gif You're a good sport Norm. This is called entertainment. :D
[ 06-13-2003, 06:28 PM: Message edited by: Captain Pre-Capsize ]
Accordin to another boat builder in N.J., the vinyl will take the varnish anyway. He does it and says it works just fine.
I think I'll try a small one first. I can cut a v-carved sign or actual letters on my Shop Bot but, that wasn't in the estimate.
Jim
Accordin to another boat builder in N.J., the vinyl will take the varnish anyway. He does it and says it works just fine.
I think I'll try a small one first. I can cut a v-carved sign or actual letters on my Shop Bot but, that wasn't in the estimate.
Jim
Accordin to another boat builder in N.J., the vinyl will take the varnish anyway. He does it and says it works just fine.
I think I'll try a small one first. I can cut a v-carved sign or actual letters on my Shop Bot but, that wasn't in the estimate.
Jim
NormMessinger
06-14-2003, 02:26 PM
Norm does not even notice spelling errors. Only one Forum member is a worse speller than he. However, he hates it when someone puts "me" ahead of "so and so" as in "me and phyllis went to the airport this morning." That and the miss use of "factoid."
Ah, but to the varnishing question. If I see anyone varnishing over gold leaf I'll... I'll (sputter fume) It ain't gonna be purdy.
I don't know how thick the vinyl letters I get from the local sign shop are but not much more than a coat of paint. The "rise" is no more than remains when masking tape is pulled from a paint job.
Varnish wouldn't stick to vinyl letters. Anyway, why would one need to varnish over them?
Um, what was the question?
NormMessinger
06-14-2003, 02:26 PM
Norm does not even notice spelling errors. Only one Forum member is a worse speller than he. However, he hates it when someone puts "me" ahead of "so and so" as in "me and phyllis went to the airport this morning." That and the miss use of "factoid."
Ah, but to the varnishing question. If I see anyone varnishing over gold leaf I'll... I'll (sputter fume) It ain't gonna be purdy.
I don't know how thick the vinyl letters I get from the local sign shop are but not much more than a coat of paint. The "rise" is no more than remains when masking tape is pulled from a paint job.
Varnish wouldn't stick to vinyl letters. Anyway, why would one need to varnish over them?
Um, what was the question?
NormMessinger
06-14-2003, 02:26 PM
Norm does not even notice spelling errors. Only one Forum member is a worse speller than he. However, he hates it when someone puts "me" ahead of "so and so" as in "me and phyllis went to the airport this morning." That and the miss use of "factoid."
Ah, but to the varnishing question. If I see anyone varnishing over gold leaf I'll... I'll (sputter fume) It ain't gonna be purdy.
I don't know how thick the vinyl letters I get from the local sign shop are but not much more than a coat of paint. The "rise" is no more than remains when masking tape is pulled from a paint job.
Varnish wouldn't stick to vinyl letters. Anyway, why would one need to varnish over them?
Um, what was the question?
Concordia..41
06-14-2003, 06:38 PM
So you can touch up your transom varnish as necessary without having to redo the name you silly man tongue.gif
Our name and hailing port is painted, but I had a good 10-15 coats on and then had the sign painter out followed by another few coats of varnish six weeks later (per his instructions).
- :D
Concordia..41
06-14-2003, 06:38 PM
So you can touch up your transom varnish as necessary without having to redo the name you silly man tongue.gif
Our name and hailing port is painted, but I had a good 10-15 coats on and then had the sign painter out followed by another few coats of varnish six weeks later (per his instructions).
- :D
Concordia..41
06-14-2003, 06:38 PM
So you can touch up your transom varnish as necessary without having to redo the name you silly man tongue.gif
Our name and hailing port is painted, but I had a good 10-15 coats on and then had the sign painter out followed by another few coats of varnish six weeks later (per his instructions).
- :D
NormMessinger
06-14-2003, 07:30 PM
As I have proven time after time here one does not need to know what one is talking about to talk. I have no idea how gold leaf stands up the marine weather. However, on a museum wall lacquer destroys it's luster. We lacquered it to harden it against finger nails that could not resist testing it. "Is this real gold?" scratch scratch. Instead of looking like gold it looks like gold colored lacquer, still beautiful but not as. May as well have the sign painter use gold colored paint.
Have we hijacked the thread yet?
NormMessinger
06-14-2003, 07:30 PM
As I have proven time after time here one does not need to know what one is talking about to talk. I have no idea how gold leaf stands up the marine weather. However, on a museum wall lacquer destroys it's luster. We lacquered it to harden it against finger nails that could not resist testing it. "Is this real gold?" scratch scratch. Instead of looking like gold it looks like gold colored lacquer, still beautiful but not as. May as well have the sign painter use gold colored paint.
Have we hijacked the thread yet?
NormMessinger
06-14-2003, 07:30 PM
As I have proven time after time here one does not need to know what one is talking about to talk. I have no idea how gold leaf stands up the marine weather. However, on a museum wall lacquer destroys it's luster. We lacquered it to harden it against finger nails that could not resist testing it. "Is this real gold?" scratch scratch. Instead of looking like gold it looks like gold colored lacquer, still beautiful but not as. May as well have the sign painter use gold colored paint.
Have we hijacked the thread yet?
Wild Wassa
06-14-2003, 08:23 PM
An automotive acrylic will coat vinyl. My local sign writer uses coloured automotive acrylics to dress-up his signage. He also told me that he guarantees his signage for seven years.
Warren.
Wild Wassa
06-14-2003, 08:23 PM
An automotive acrylic will coat vinyl. My local sign writer uses coloured automotive acrylics to dress-up his signage. He also told me that he guarantees his signage for seven years.
Warren.
Wild Wassa
06-14-2003, 08:23 PM
An automotive acrylic will coat vinyl. My local sign writer uses coloured automotive acrylics to dress-up his signage. He also told me that he guarantees his signage for seven years.
Warren.
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