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Tappensailor
06-22-2001, 02:17 AM
I am looking for a method to attach a rope fender to my dinghy. can somebody help me?
Thanks
Tappensailor
06-22-2001, 02:17 AM
I am looking for a method to attach a rope fender to my dinghy. can somebody help me?
Thanks
Tappensailor
06-22-2001, 02:17 AM
I am looking for a method to attach a rope fender to my dinghy. can somebody help me?
Thanks
Ron Williamson
06-22-2001, 05:50 AM
On our Penn Yan,the gunwale is coved out and the three part twisted line is stitched to it.The stitches fall diagonally along the lay of the fender rope,then through holes drilled in the gunwale.
Hope that this helps.
Have fun
R
Ron Williamson
06-22-2001, 05:50 AM
On our Penn Yan,the gunwale is coved out and the three part twisted line is stitched to it.The stitches fall diagonally along the lay of the fender rope,then through holes drilled in the gunwale.
Hope that this helps.
Have fun
R
Ron Williamson
06-22-2001, 05:50 AM
On our Penn Yan,the gunwale is coved out and the three part twisted line is stitched to it.The stitches fall diagonally along the lay of the fender rope,then through holes drilled in the gunwale.
Hope that this helps.
Have fun
R
Mike Field
06-22-2001, 08:10 AM
I think Ron's got the idea, TS. To get a good tight fit, short-splice (or I suppose long-splice if you want) the rope at such a length that it fits just around the bow, then over the gunwales in a straight line to each quarter, and then across the transom. Then stretch out the middle of the long sides till you can roll them out over the gunwales to tension them.
It will need to be at least 3" (circ) rope to be much good -- preferably more.
[This message has been edited by Mike Field (edited 06-22-2001).]
Mike Field
06-22-2001, 08:10 AM
I think Ron's got the idea, TS. To get a good tight fit, short-splice (or I suppose long-splice if you want) the rope at such a length that it fits just around the bow, then over the gunwales in a straight line to each quarter, and then across the transom. Then stretch out the middle of the long sides till you can roll them out over the gunwales to tension them.
It will need to be at least 3" (circ) rope to be much good -- preferably more.
[This message has been edited by Mike Field (edited 06-22-2001).]
Mike Field
06-22-2001, 08:10 AM
I think Ron's got the idea, TS. To get a good tight fit, short-splice (or I suppose long-splice if you want) the rope at such a length that it fits just around the bow, then over the gunwales in a straight line to each quarter, and then across the transom. Then stretch out the middle of the long sides till you can roll them out over the gunwales to tension them.
It will need to be at least 3" (circ) rope to be much good -- preferably more.
[This message has been edited by Mike Field (edited 06-22-2001).]
A local boatbuilder builds dinghys with rope fenders that are fastened to the coved gunwale by opening the lay of the rope and driving a 1" No.1o or No. 12 screw through a washer and the inner strand. The rope is then laid back tight, covering the screw head completely. This is repeated every 6" - 8" to the ends of the rope at the transom. The bitter ends of the fenderrope are carried around to the transom where they are tapered out to a short point, fastened to the transom with a small copper strap, and covered with a leather cap nailed with small copper brads. It looks very good. I noticed that the Vetus catalogue has a vinyl rubbing strake coved to receive a 2-1/2" or 3" diam rope fender, but they don't indicate how the rope is attached.
A local boatbuilder builds dinghys with rope fenders that are fastened to the coved gunwale by opening the lay of the rope and driving a 1" No.1o or No. 12 screw through a washer and the inner strand. The rope is then laid back tight, covering the screw head completely. This is repeated every 6" - 8" to the ends of the rope at the transom. The bitter ends of the fenderrope are carried around to the transom where they are tapered out to a short point, fastened to the transom with a small copper strap, and covered with a leather cap nailed with small copper brads. It looks very good. I noticed that the Vetus catalogue has a vinyl rubbing strake coved to receive a 2-1/2" or 3" diam rope fender, but they don't indicate how the rope is attached.
A local boatbuilder builds dinghys with rope fenders that are fastened to the coved gunwale by opening the lay of the rope and driving a 1" No.1o or No. 12 screw through a washer and the inner strand. The rope is then laid back tight, covering the screw head completely. This is repeated every 6" - 8" to the ends of the rope at the transom. The bitter ends of the fenderrope are carried around to the transom where they are tapered out to a short point, fastened to the transom with a small copper strap, and covered with a leather cap nailed with small copper brads. It looks very good. I noticed that the Vetus catalogue has a vinyl rubbing strake coved to receive a 2-1/2" or 3" diam rope fender, but they don't indicate how the rope is attached.
Mike in SC
06-25-2001, 08:47 AM
I was contemplating the same and came up with the idea of installing small SS screw eyes around the bottom of the gunnel and then sliding one end of a small size plastic "electricians cable tie"- though the eye and one strand of the rope and cinching up tight. I have seen numerous boats that have the rope nailed that have started to get soft spots around the nails. Good Luck!
Mike in SC
06-25-2001, 08:47 AM
I was contemplating the same and came up with the idea of installing small SS screw eyes around the bottom of the gunnel and then sliding one end of a small size plastic "electricians cable tie"- though the eye and one strand of the rope and cinching up tight. I have seen numerous boats that have the rope nailed that have started to get soft spots around the nails. Good Luck!
Mike in SC
06-25-2001, 08:47 AM
I was contemplating the same and came up with the idea of installing small SS screw eyes around the bottom of the gunnel and then sliding one end of a small size plastic "electricians cable tie"- though the eye and one strand of the rope and cinching up tight. I have seen numerous boats that have the rope nailed that have started to get soft spots around the nails. Good Luck!
What happens if you come up hard on something right on the eye or screw. I have seen a number of boats with laced on rope where the strake seems to have weathered the holes and marline just fine.
What happens if you come up hard on something right on the eye or screw. I have seen a number of boats with laced on rope where the strake seems to have weathered the holes and marline just fine.
What happens if you come up hard on something right on the eye or screw. I have seen a number of boats with laced on rope where the strake seems to have weathered the holes and marline just fine.
Mike in SC
06-26-2001, 04:35 PM
The idea is that the screw eye sits behind the rope- out of sight and protected by the rope. The idea is to be able to replace the rope every coupla seasons without tearing up the gunnel. If I was going to do it I would put them under the gunnel and use a rope thick enough to protect both the hull and lower gunnel edge. The upshot is a tight rope snugged up in the "v" between the gunnel and hull. Would it work? Ain't tried it yet, but the theory is sound, even if the description is not.
Mike in SC
06-26-2001, 04:35 PM
The idea is that the screw eye sits behind the rope- out of sight and protected by the rope. The idea is to be able to replace the rope every coupla seasons without tearing up the gunnel. If I was going to do it I would put them under the gunnel and use a rope thick enough to protect both the hull and lower gunnel edge. The upshot is a tight rope snugged up in the "v" between the gunnel and hull. Would it work? Ain't tried it yet, but the theory is sound, even if the description is not.
Mike in SC
06-26-2001, 04:35 PM
The idea is that the screw eye sits behind the rope- out of sight and protected by the rope. The idea is to be able to replace the rope every coupla seasons without tearing up the gunnel. If I was going to do it I would put them under the gunnel and use a rope thick enough to protect both the hull and lower gunnel edge. The upshot is a tight rope snugged up in the "v" between the gunnel and hull. Would it work? Ain't tried it yet, but the theory is sound, even if the description is not.
Dave Hadfield
06-26-2001, 09:12 PM
Not meant as a serious replacement for your rope fender, but this spring I took a kids swimming "noodle", cut it into 6 inch sections, threaded them on a 1/4 inch line, and I use it as a dinghy fender. I tied it to each side corner of the pram. I flip it in when I'm rowing, and out when I'm coming alongside. A bit of weight in the middle stops it riding up.
It works and it costs nothing. Just an idea.
Dave Hadfield
06-26-2001, 09:12 PM
Not meant as a serious replacement for your rope fender, but this spring I took a kids swimming "noodle", cut it into 6 inch sections, threaded them on a 1/4 inch line, and I use it as a dinghy fender. I tied it to each side corner of the pram. I flip it in when I'm rowing, and out when I'm coming alongside. A bit of weight in the middle stops it riding up.
It works and it costs nothing. Just an idea.
Dave Hadfield
06-26-2001, 09:12 PM
Not meant as a serious replacement for your rope fender, but this spring I took a kids swimming "noodle", cut it into 6 inch sections, threaded them on a 1/4 inch line, and I use it as a dinghy fender. I tied it to each side corner of the pram. I flip it in when I'm rowing, and out when I'm coming alongside. A bit of weight in the middle stops it riding up.
It works and it costs nothing. Just an idea.
Mike in SC
06-28-2001, 11:05 AM
Dave- you're a genius fer sure. You can be my boy's dory will have similar when we get her afloat in a week or so. Great thinking!
Mike in SC
06-28-2001, 11:05 AM
Dave- you're a genius fer sure. You can be my boy's dory will have similar when we get her afloat in a week or so. Great thinking!
Mike in SC
06-28-2001, 11:05 AM
Dave- you're a genius fer sure. You can be my boy's dory will have similar when we get her afloat in a week or so. Great thinking!
Mike in SC
06-28-2001, 11:10 AM
Dave- you're a genius fer sure. You can bet my boy's dory will have similar when we get her afloat in a week or so. Great thinking! Just had the notion too, that I will put a similar "fender" around the neighbor's float where my boy will be docking on occasion. Should help thwart a bunch of dings an gouges.
Mike in SC
06-28-2001, 11:10 AM
Dave- you're a genius fer sure. You can bet my boy's dory will have similar when we get her afloat in a week or so. Great thinking! Just had the notion too, that I will put a similar "fender" around the neighbor's float where my boy will be docking on occasion. Should help thwart a bunch of dings an gouges.
Mike in SC
06-28-2001, 11:10 AM
Dave- you're a genius fer sure. You can bet my boy's dory will have similar when we get her afloat in a week or so. Great thinking! Just had the notion too, that I will put a similar "fender" around the neighbor's float where my boy will be docking on occasion. Should help thwart a bunch of dings an gouges.
John B
06-28-2001, 04:34 PM
I glued a rope fender on my boys boat with gorilla glue for all of the reasons above.
It didn't work.It made a real mess. don't do it.
http://albums.photopoint.com/j/View?u=1257037&a=9296207&p=33601161&Sequence=0&res=high
Well actually that's not quite right. It did work, it made a real mess. don't do it.
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[This message has been edited by John B (edited 06-28-2001).]
John B
06-28-2001, 04:34 PM
I glued a rope fender on my boys boat with gorilla glue for all of the reasons above.
It didn't work.It made a real mess. don't do it.
http://albums.photopoint.com/j/View?u=1257037&a=9296207&p=33601161&Sequence=0&res=high
Well actually that's not quite right. It did work, it made a real mess. don't do it.
[This message has been edited by John B (edited 06-28-2001).]
[This message has been edited by John B (edited 06-28-2001).]
John B
06-28-2001, 04:34 PM
I glued a rope fender on my boys boat with gorilla glue for all of the reasons above.
It didn't work.It made a real mess. don't do it.
http://albums.photopoint.com/j/View?u=1257037&a=9296207&p=33601161&Sequence=0&res=high
Well actually that's not quite right. It did work, it made a real mess. don't do it.
[This message has been edited by John B (edited 06-28-2001).]
[This message has been edited by John B (edited 06-28-2001).]
Dave Hadfield
06-29-2001, 10:18 AM
Genius?
SWMBO would say I was just cheap!
Dave Hadfield
06-29-2001, 10:18 AM
Genius?
SWMBO would say I was just cheap!
Dave Hadfield
06-29-2001, 10:18 AM
Genius?
SWMBO would say I was just cheap!
Tappensailor
06-29-2001, 11:15 AM
Thanks for all the help, as these fenders were for a "plastic" boat to protect a "plastic" I went with the "plastic" kids noodles. Satisfactory for the time until I have more time to groove the gunwale and install the traditional rope as per the other ideas.
Thanks for all the help, have a good summer and may the weather be to the liking of all.
Robin
Tappensailor
06-29-2001, 11:15 AM
Thanks for all the help, as these fenders were for a "plastic" boat to protect a "plastic" I went with the "plastic" kids noodles. Satisfactory for the time until I have more time to groove the gunwale and install the traditional rope as per the other ideas.
Thanks for all the help, have a good summer and may the weather be to the liking of all.
Robin
Tappensailor
06-29-2001, 11:15 AM
Thanks for all the help, as these fenders were for a "plastic" boat to protect a "plastic" I went with the "plastic" kids noodles. Satisfactory for the time until I have more time to groove the gunwale and install the traditional rope as per the other ideas.
Thanks for all the help, have a good summer and may the weather be to the liking of all.
Robin
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