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Norumbega Boatworks
08-18-2005, 07:04 PM
While driving past the old tannery in Camden ME today, I spied a hull. Turns out that its a scow, I'm guessing circa 1930's. The fellow who's in charge of demolishing the tannery (now in progress) knows little about boats but wants a good home for it. I know almost nothing myself, whether it is a significant hull or not. If you're interested drop by there and ask for Bob or if further afield I'll get some photos. Hull only- no rig, sails, trailer etc. Does have bilge boards in place and deck hardware. Been under cover many a year, I suspect.

Will

Tim B
08-22-2005, 05:59 PM
Will,

I'd like to see some pictures if you are in the area. However, I'm not able to take the hull. Scows are my greatest boat interest and I never tire of learning more about them.

Tim

Alan D. Hyde
08-23-2005, 10:51 AM
Bump.

Alan

Tim B
08-23-2005, 12:03 PM
Alan, are you a scow sailor also?

Steve Paskey
08-23-2005, 12:21 PM
If this is an original sailing cargo scow (as shown in Chapelle's "Sailing Small Craft"), it may be of real historical interest. Some scow-type cargo vessels on the gulf of Maine -- known as gundalows -- used a lateen rig that could be lowered to shoot under bridges.

You might try calling the Strawbery Banke museum in Portsmouth (www.strawberybanke.org) or the Gundalow Company (www.gundalow.org) and tell them about the hull. Even if it's not a gundalow, I bet they'd be very interested and would send someone up to have a look.

[ 08-23-2005, 12:22 PM: Message edited by: Steve Paskey ]

Norumbega Boatworks
08-24-2005, 09:54 AM
Hi, Sorry for the delay in getting back here, I'll get a couple of photos in the next couple of days. Will

Keith Wilson
08-24-2005, 11:06 AM
Wait, there's some confusion here: are we talking about a scow:

http://www.latitude38.com/LectronicLat/2004/0304/Mar31/ALMA.jpg

Or a scow?

http://www.csa-sailing.org/fleets/e-scow/images/whale-278.jpg

[ 08-24-2005, 11:09 AM: Message edited by: Keith Wilson ]

Alan D. Hyde
08-24-2005, 11:43 AM
Not lately.

I used to crew occasionally, years ago, at the Indianapolis Sailing Club, on windy days, when a big crew was wanted.

Mostly for Bud Hook.

Alan

chuckm
08-24-2005, 01:00 PM
I thought that a Scow was a 2 masted schooner with a CB keel, large barge like vessel used for unloading a deep ocean going vessel tied at dock? no?

Wild Dingo
08-24-2005, 01:09 PM
Alma the top one Keith shows is arguably the most well known example of a large scow... used for cartage in its hayday :cool: and been mentioned in many a thread

The other second one is often a bit of a racer see Wild Wassa he plays with them sorta things! tongue.gif

Keith Wilson
08-24-2005, 02:22 PM
"Scows" these days (the one in the bottom picture) are one-design racing boats sailed mostly on the inland lakes of the Midwest US. There are several classes, from the 16-foot M and MC, up to the 38-foot A-scows. Here's a link to the Inland Lake Yachting Association, with information about all of them. (http://www.ilya.org/) The defining characteristics are the shallow scow hull, twin bilgeboards and sometimes twin rudders, (you can see the windward board raised in the picture) and high speed due to light weight, live ballast and lots of sail. The A-scows were at one point the fastest monohull in the world. They were mostly developed in the late 19th century; the major builders were Johnson Boat works in White Bear Lake, MN (now out of business) and Melges in Wisconsin. You still find some wood ones around, but usually not racing.

An A-scow:

http://www.ascow.org/i1-8.jpg

[ 08-24-2005, 02:33 PM: Message edited by: Keith Wilson ]