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Peter Malcolm Jardine
11-30-2003, 10:20 PM
Sell the CC, pay for the tug, live aboard and do renovations over the next summer... Be a great boat... the lister should be good forever under the kind of use I would give it...

Tugboat (http://www.scrutonmarine.com/T2065.htm)

[ 11-30-2003, 10:21 PM: Message edited by: Peter Malcolm Jardine ]

Bob Smalser
11-30-2003, 10:45 PM
I love it, Peter.

Looks like you can still get parts:

http://www.lister-petter.co.uk/production_dates.html

But it didn't say what the hull is made of....1915 Ohio could probably be a lot of things.

Peter Malcolm Jardine
11-30-2003, 10:52 PM
I would suspect Iron, which would be good, but certainly that is the area that is worth of a survey... If she is iron in fresh water, and has had decent maintenance over the years... I think she'd be okay. I think her price is indicative of her relative ability to pull, as well as her lack of electronics, her age, and her fresh water location. Most of the stuff on the lakes now doesn't need a tug, and the salvage business is not what it used to be. The gennie and the compressor would be worth a serious look too.. I don't know if there is enough height to put a cabin floor over top of the engine... Certainly have to put a substantive hatch to remove large mechanical hunks of iron if need be ;)

martin schulz
12-01-2003, 07:24 AM
I am looking for a proper tugboat for 2 years now, I even founded a club to get a traditional tugboat (you know what they say about Germans: when 3 Germans meet they found a club).

So how about this one:
http://i3.ebayimg.com/03/i/00/c1/4b/30_3.JPG
Built 1930 at Jastram, Hamburg, totally restored 56.000Euro

Donn
12-01-2003, 07:36 AM
Ashtabula..a small town on the Lake Erie shore, NE of Cleveland. Wonder if she's related to the town in some way.

Jack Heinlen
12-01-2003, 07:46 AM
A seven inch shaft and 78 inch wheel. :eek:

It looks very cool, and the price seems reasonable, but man the cost to keep her going could eat you alive, unless you could either figure out a way to work her, or you just plan to park somewhere.

The Ashtabula, built at Cleveland during an interesting time of that city's industrial prowess, probably, as you say, of riveted iron plate, would make a hell of place to hang your hat. Peter M. Garden, one of the last of the romantics. smile.gif

Jack Heinlen
12-01-2003, 07:49 AM
Ashtabula..a small town on the Lake Erie shore, NE of Cleveland. Wonder if she's related to the town in some way. I bet it was her original home port?

Donn
12-01-2003, 07:55 AM
Ashtabula isn't her original name. She was formerly Jenny T II. Here she is, downbound at the Belle Isle Coast Guard Station.

http://www.boatnerd.com/pictures/tug/images/ASHTABULAb2010-27-02mn.jpg

Donn
12-01-2003, 07:59 AM
"From http://129.1.59.220/cgi-win/lak952.exe http://129.1.59.220/vessel/00/04/000413.jpg Great Lakes Vessels Index Historical Collections of the Great Lakes Bowling Green State University Registry & Rig Information Item: 000413 Vessel Name: ASHTABULA Nationality U.S. Official Number: 212966 Rig: Tug Dimensions & Tonnage Vessel Length: 68.58 Gross Tonnage: 65.00 Vessel Width: 17.00 Net Tonnage: 71.00 Vessel Height 11.00 Hull Material: Steel Masts: Hull Number: 00033 Builder Information Place of Build: Cleveland, OH Builder: Great Lakes Towing Co. Date of Build 1915 Name Changes Vessel Name: Date: Registry Official # ASHTABULA 1947 CANADA 177562 TIFFIN 1969 CANADA 177562 JENNY T. II 1969 CANADA 177562 Ownership Changes Owner Name Date Registry Official # Great Lakes Towing Co. Cleveland, OH U.S. 1915 - 1947 U.S. 212966 Canadian Shipbuilding & Engineering, Ltd. Kingston, Ont. Canada 1947 CANADA 177562 Canada Steamship Lines, Ltd. Montreal, P.Q. Canada 1959 CANADA 177562 Gravel & Lakes Service, Ltd. Port Arthur, Ont. Canada 1959 CANADA 177562 Oscar Styffe, Ltd. Port Arthur, Ont. Canada 1969 CANADA 177562 Donald Wakeham Hamilton, Ont. Canada 1969 - 1970 CANADA 177562 Wakeham & Sons, Ltd. Hamilton, Ont. Canada 1970 CANADA 177562 Rebuild History Canadian measures, 1947 (73.25 x 17 x 9.66; 66 gross - 45 net). Converted to oil, 1959. History As JENNY T. II, used to push bunkering barge S.M.T.B. NO. 7 at Hamilton, Ontario."

link (http://www.boatnerd.com/search/archiveb/5-03/0000971b.htm)

Donn
12-01-2003, 08:06 AM
http://129.1.59.220/vessel/00/04/000413.jpg

An older, working photo.

JeffH
12-01-2003, 11:31 AM
Gross Tonnage: 65.00 Vessel Width: 17.00 Net Tonnage: 71.00 And, in a truely wonderful feat of old-time naval engineering, the inside is bigger than the outside... ;)

Jeff

Johannah
12-01-2003, 01:12 PM
Worth it for the name alone. Please keep the name Ashtabula if you buy her!

Peter Malcolm Jardine
12-01-2003, 01:27 PM
Once again, I am truly awed by the net finding ability of Donn Westervelt. truly humbling... and two great photos

Peter Malcolm Jardine
12-01-2003, 02:16 PM
Is it Ash-tab-ula or Ash-tabula?

Donn
12-01-2003, 02:21 PM
Ashta Beulah

martin schulz
12-02-2003, 03:33 AM
Isn't Beulah the name of a girl in one of Raymond Chandlers short-stories?

A funny name. I never heard it before reading the story and never after.