Final strips

[cs]

Yahoo!!! Last night I put the final 2 strips in my canoe and now its time to start faring and getting ready for glass.

Question though. Has anyone ever put any type of stickers underneath the glass and the epoxy? I'm assuming that the epoxy would distort the color of the sticker.

Of course this is only a thought and I probably won't do it, just thinking.

Chad

[John Bell]

Wooden paddle manufacturers put little mylar labels under the glass on their products. However, there is very little distortion beacause most paddles are sheathed only with very light 1.7 oz. cloth.

I don't think I'd risk it under heavier cloth, though. What do you do if it looks terrible? It would not be easy to fix later on...

[cs]

You are right about that John. If it turned out bad it would be a mess to try and fix, so I will go ahead and rule that out.

I am so releived to get the final strips in place and start on the next stage. Been a long time coming with this canoe and I'm excited about seeing it completed.

Chad

[Figment]

Why put it under the glass? why not wait until that last flood-coat of resin? That way if something backfires, you'll be able to grind it off without compromising the boat.

[blacksmith]

My strip canoe was built by an outfit down Maine,and they burned their logo into the cedar before glassing.Of course,everyone knows I didn't build it.

[JeffH]

A guy I know occasionally home-builds surfboards, and he does a lot of airbrush artwork and stickers and so forth directly on the foam core before glassing. Looks great, and I believe this is pretty much SOP for surfboards. I wouldn't think the (still) relatively light 'glass cloth used for strip-built canoes would distort much. If I were to attempt it, I would probably do a test with a scrap piece of 2X4 or something...

Jeff

[ 02-04-2004, 12:28 PM: Message edited by: JeffH ]

[cs]

What I worry about is not really the glass, but the epoxy. When putting epoxy on wood it changes the hue of the wood and I worry about what it will do to the stickers colors and besides I only got one sticker.

Almost embaressed to mention it, but I have been looking for a good place to put my Ron Jon's logo sticker and I bet I would be the only wood strip canoe with that logo.

Like I said I probably won't do it, just wondering what would happen to the sticker if I did.

Chad

[Popeye]

GilPatrick makes reference to this, he mentions using an ordinary photocopy (or inkjet nowadays) and gluing over the entire paper sheet, onto wood, with epoxy. the paper nearly disappears and the ink design remains.

Does this on paddles i believe.

[abe]

Print your design, HIN number or what have you on your ink-jet printer using a sheet of rice-paper with contrasting ink of course. Then cut out around the design and apply under your final coat of epoxy resin. The paper will never show.

Congratulations to you for getting the last strips finished. Now is the fun part; a sharpened spoke shave, a block plane and a fairing board before the randum orbit sander and then the clear coat of epoxy.

abe

[cs]

abe, I beleive in faring wiht 80 grit. Been using a plane, and Lord forbide, my belt sander. If you are careful you can fair a curve pretty good.

Chad

[alteran]

Abe, Could you decribe the thing you call a fairing board?

Thanks, Al.

[abe]

A typical fairing board would be flexible, about 16" long by 5" wide with handles. They can be obtained at an auto paint supplier. The one I have is made from thin plywood reinforced with fiberglass. Velcro glued on one side so that the hook and loop paper can be used.

Look at the third item down on the web-page linked below. This particular board works great.

http://www.newfound.com/tools.htm

abe

[Wild Wassa]

Originally posted by cs:

"snip ... I'm assuming that the epoxy would distort the color of the sticker."

Does you epoxy manufacturer have a non-yellowing hardener that you could use? BoatCraft Pacific here in Oz, make a range of hardeners.

Warren.

[ 02-04-2004, 04:19 PM: Message edited by: Wild Wassa ]

[cs]

Warren I'm using the RAKA non-blushing hardner. I'm not sure if this is non-yellowing since I've never used the non-blushing before.

Kinda suprised nobody made mention of the Ron Jon's sticker.

Chad

[Todd Bradshaw]

Toss that belt sander out the window before you do something you won't like. You'd be better off fairing with a baseball bat. By the time you even notice that you have a problem, it's way too late. If you want to power-sand, stick with a good random orbit or learn how to use a big disk (but practice on something else first, 'cause it cuts quite fast).

[abe]

OK, I have been stuck in the house for two weeks painting and maybe should get out more often, so tell me Chad, who the h*** is Ron Jon???

abe

[cs]

Todd, you are right a belt sander can be an instrument of destruction if not used with care and even than it can get away from you. I've got some spots that I've had to hit real quick with it and than the rest is with the ROS. I promise to be real careful and use it as little as possible.

Besides you are too late with your warning. I've just about finished the with the belt sander and will start tomorrow with the ROS. Looks okay so far, but will no more after some easy sanding.

Abe I guess you haven't been to Coco Beach. Ron Jon's is like the most famous surf shop on this coast, possibly the world.

http://www.ronjons.com/images/home/home_final_02.gif

Chad