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Peter Malcolm Jardine
02-11-2003, 04:22 AM
If you read my last boat progress, I just found out this last weekend that my starboard engine block is cracked. It's likely an old crack, since I put a lot of antifreeze through to winterize so it wasn't me. Anyway, I could run it this season, with some grinding and some devcon, but it goes against my teachings, so out the second engine comes (the first one is in my unfinished family room just rebuilt) and a new engine block is needed along with a complete rebuild.

283 Chev engines are not getting any easier to find these days, and at this point a lot of them have been melted,blown up or otherwise disappeared. I'm sick as a dog, so I spent the day on the phone calling wrecking yards and engine remanufacturers looking for a block, or a short block, or a whole engine for parts. Most guys I talked to were kinda incredulous I was looking for one, or suggested swapping in a 327, getting rid of both and buying 350's etc.

I live in Prince Edward County Ontario, locally known for miles around as "The County". Things kinda run a little differently around here, and we have an individual philosophy much like a small country. Anyway, there is a wrecking yard down here called Minaker's. I say wrecking yard, but it's unlikely that a car later than say ...1969 has been processed through the yard for quite a while. The place consists of old buses, sheds, and boxes off cube vans stuffed with parts and trim and so on. To give you an idea, the last parts I bought from them was stainless trim for my 1940 plymouth P10 coupe I was restoring at the time. They had all the pieces I was missing. Another friend of mine bought a set of NOS Olds 442 insignia in the boxes from them..Old Minaker said "I dunno where I got these".

I phoned them up and told them what I was looking for, and now it's the son, who is about 65. He said "Ayup, I think there is some motors out in one of the van boxes", and after some consultation with an unknown coworker, allowed as there was "sum more moters out in one of the buses in the back". He would phone me back. You would have to see this place to believe it,but somehow someone knows where everything is, or at least the section of the yard where it might be.Four hours later he called back, "Ayup, I got a block here,but it ain't clean y'know" I said that was all right, and asked how much. "Weeellll, I guess I got to have 225 fer it, (about 140 american)and by the way would you be interested in a brand new set of 30 over pistons fer it?" I said yes and yes, and how much were the pistons? "Welllll, I doan know. Let me check on how much a set was nowdays, and I'll give ya a deal, but I don't know what they might be worth now. I'll call ya.In the meantime we'll dig that block out, and you can pick it up in a cupla days"

Minakers is not on the internet. Hell, they don't even have a display ad in the telephone book, just a one line entry. If any of you boys are looking for old car parts, (they have em allll the way back) drop me a line here in "The County" and I'll see what I can do fer ya. :D

nedL
02-11-2003, 07:59 AM
Sounds like a great place! I'd love to find somewhere like that around here. You might want to hold on to your old block when you are done with the second rebuild. ( Today I could kick myself for not keeping a bunch of old engine parts that I didn't think I needed years ago. Now I'm having to have to find & buy the very same parts I threw out! (For a Gray Marine 109)).

Rocky
02-11-2003, 09:09 AM
We used to have a place like that in western Jersey. It was like a museum - acres and acres of cars going back to the 30's. If you had your own tools Gabe would let you to jump in one of his rat cars - a Suburu with no doors - and rattle out through ruts three feet deep to get your part. Watch out for the bees! Like your guy, Gabe knew exactly where everything was - "turn left at the van with the peace sign, make a right at the burned-out Cadillac" - but you'd find other pilgrims wandering for hours looking for their parts car. Everything was twenty bucks.

Occasionally the local car dealers would run a promotion offering hefty tradeins on "anything you could drive to our lot" and Gabe would get the tradeins. Some of them were pretty nice! Some Puerto Rican guy bought all the running ones and shipped them out in containers, esp. if they were diesels.

The EPA kept sending people to watch him draining motor oil on the ground, and kept telling him they weren't trying to shut him down but he had to cut that out. One day in a fit of pique he said "No one's gonna tell me how to run my business!" and hauled everything out. Broke my heart. Half my old Cadillac came from that place. As you know, there are no junkyards anymore, just recycled auto parts with prices to match.

My Dad had a 39 Plymouth coupe, convertible top, rumble seat. Neat old car.

[ 02-11-2003, 09:31 AM: Message edited by: Rocky ]

JShaw
02-11-2003, 05:04 PM
Another alternative may be what is referred to as cold stiching or metal stitching...same procedures...different names...
If you perform a search on google etc it explains fully the process.. I had it done to the water jacket of a 351 Ford engine that experienced an "early" freeze.. was sitting on its trailer for 2 months after pulling the boat out for the season... but thats beside the point !!!
If its accesible, sometimes it can be done with the engine in place !!

Bryan Mehus
02-12-2003, 05:35 AM
Great find Peter! Don't forget to keep your old crank eh. If it's original it will be forged steel, and those are getting harder to find than the blocks.
Bryan

Peter Malcolm Jardine
02-12-2003, 03:14 PM
Yep, you're right about the crank... and thanks for the advice on stitching, but I think this block has two cracks, and if it can be stitched I will get it done and keep it as a second.