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Assuming only one boat per person...If you took 10,000 average Joes at random, how many of them would you say have the dream of owning a boat? Out of this number, how many of them do or will at some point own a boat? Out of this number, how many own or will own a fiberglass motorboat? Out of the remaining number, how many own or will own some other type of motorboat? Out of the remaining Joes how many own or will own a self propelled craft(canoe,kayak,rowboat...)? Out of the guys left, how many own or will own a fiberglass sailboat? Out of the remaining odd ducks, how many will own a wooden sailboat? And out of this group, how many own or will own a functioning wooden sailboat? And out of the remainder, how many own or will own a project boat that at the moment of aquisition is in about the same condition as a 1957 Chevy found out behind your Great Uncle's barn. Okay, got the numbers? One more question. If the project boat guy lives near the east coast and is willing to travel as far as an easy day's drive will take him in search of a project boat,how many project boats do you think he will have to choose from?
ken mcclure
10-07-2003, 06:48 AM
:D
Um, could you repeat the question? I sneezed in the middle.
No, seriously ... what time did the train leave Chicago?
It's a weird one I admit, and not a bit concise, but give it a shot if you would...thanks
Popeye
10-07-2003, 08:06 AM
The answer is 7. So long and thanks for the fishes.
Paul Denison
10-07-2003, 08:27 AM
Ah! Your quandry is that the guys who have the non functioning project boats are living a fantasy and will not part with them.
Bill Dodson
10-07-2003, 08:44 AM
Originally posted by popeye:
The answer is 7. So long and thanks for the fishes.I've been wrong all this time... I thought the answer was 42. :eek:
Popeye
10-07-2003, 08:49 AM
Hey everybody, lets welcome..lets see your name tag.. Bill...
"Hello , my name is Bill.. and I have a wooden boat problem".
That's good Bill, admitting it, is a good first step. Who else wants to share with the group.
huisjen
10-07-2003, 09:02 AM
One, Two, uh Five!
Three, m' lord.
Uh, Right! Three!
*throw*
*Bang*
(rabbit bits everywhere....)
Popeye
10-07-2003, 09:13 AM
Thou shalt not count to four and five is RIGHT OUT!
huisjen
10-07-2003, 09:24 AM
Uncle Henry is our friend.
http://www.unclehenrys.com/Classifieds/Search/Results.aspx?SearchID=1824419&isHistoricSearch=N
Boat Length of 27' Friendship sloop. traditional and salty. Mahogany hull, triple topsail gaff rig. Westerbee diesel. Sleeps 4 for perfect family coastal cruising. $2,500.-Details-Warren, ME
Boat Length of 26' 1953 wooden sloop, great project w/trailer $1,200.-Details-Unity, ME
Boat Length of 18' rana mahogany sloop, beautiful. donated to school, sac. trailer, sails, ready to go $1,800-Details-Orland, ME
26' Pilot sloop, 1950. Classic design by George Stadel. Mohogany over oak. Bronze fastened lead keel. All orig hardware. Completely equipped. Reliable Atomic 4. Exc cond. Asking $16,500.-Details-Edgecomb, ME
Boat Length of 20' 1924 Old Town Carlton A nice canoe for easy restoration with a great history. Comes with copy of original "build card. " Canoe No. 18863, shipped July 3,1924 to Rippogenus Dam, Maine. Good condition with 2 or 3 cracked ribs. Stripped to bare wood. More pictures available. Asking $329 or B O.-Details-Steuben, ME
Boat Length of 16' 1971 Wood Canvas, homemade, stored inside, great condition. $650.-Details-Saco, ME
1940's white/old town wood canvas canoe, very good cond., refinish the wood & make it beautiful. $1,500-Details-Madison, ME
Now, what kind of boat were you looking for?
Dan
Bruce Hooke
10-07-2003, 09:36 AM
OK, let's see what happens if we run this through:
From 10,000
Dream of owning a boat: 1/3 (3,333)
Will own a boat: 75% (2,500)
F'glass motorboat: 40% (1,000, remainder: 1,500)
Self propelled: 66% (1,000, remainder: 500)
F'glass sailboat: 90% (450, remainder: 50)
Wooden Sailboat: 100% (what else is there left?)(50)
Functioning Wooden Sailboat: 95% (48, remainder: 2)
Project Boat: 50% (1, remainder: 1)
However, realize that this is an average across the country. It doesn't take a great leap in logic to conclude that you will find much more than 1 project boat/10,000 men in Maine and much less than that in Denver! Offhand, I'd guess that in your average coastal community in Maine there are probably a couple dozen such boats at a minimum. So, if you are intersted in finding project boats that will take 4 times as much work to rebuild as it would to build them from scratch I think you will have plenty of options. On the other hand, if you are looking for a boat that is actually likely to sail again someday then I think the pool of possible candidates will drop considerably...
Are you any wiser now? :D
Popeye
10-07-2003, 10:02 AM
hey, don't give up so easily on the old project boat. why with a couple of nice flower boxes and a little front lawn, she can look pretty sweet.
ccmanuals
10-07-2003, 10:10 AM
I'm still trying to figure out why anyone would want a blow boat in the first place. :D
paladin
10-07-2003, 11:39 AM
gee Tom...maybe for the same reason that a few years ago I towed a "magnum" something or the other off the bay to the fuel docks at Annapolis...and I simply refused to start the engine............it made my day..month...year....
Joe ( Cold Spring on Hudson )
10-07-2003, 03:21 PM
Hmmmm speaking for only this JOE. I own one fiberglass hulled 9ft Dhow with wooden mast and thwarts and gunwale ( more wood than fiberglass smile.gif ) One Fiberglass sea kayak. One Plywood sailboat in need of work. Lastly one wooden keel and transom & bulkhead to a pocket cruiser sailboat yet to be complete. So where do I figure in the figure :D
ken mcclure
10-07-2003, 07:50 PM
847.
Spread it to two days' drive and the number jumps to 1,383,281. Give or take.
Hughman
10-07-2003, 10:32 PM
Hey, tell me about the '57 Chevy behind your uncles barn?
:D
Meerkat
10-08-2003, 03:31 AM
Originally posted by Joe ( Cold Spring on Hudson ):
Hmmmm speaking for only this JOE. I own one fiberglass hulled 9ft Dhow with wooden mast and thwarts and gunwale ( more wood than fiberglass smile.gif ) One Fiberglass sea kayak. One Plywood sailboat in need of work. Lastly one wooden keel and transom & bulkhead to a pocket cruiser sailboat yet to be complete. So where do I figure in the figure :D Joe; what design pocket cruiser are you building? I didn't realize you'd chosen a design, let alone got that far!
So now I know how many average Joe Woodenboat forum guys will answer a weird post like that. The reason for the question at all is that I have a project boat that I got for free, am going through a divorce, and seeing my wife put a value of thousands on the boat. I submit that you could put any price you want on it, but where is the buyer? Thanks.
huisjen
10-10-2003, 09:13 AM
Have it surveyed and appraised?
Dan
Popeye
10-10-2003, 09:18 AM
your comment reminds me of the 'antiques roadshow'. when they get to the part where they casually evaluate the 'piece'.
"I would say, at auction, in todays market, on a good day.... blah blah blah"
A old boat has intrinsic value which is not monetary.
DavesFlatsBoat
10-10-2003, 10:08 AM
1. 8,000
2. 7,200
3. 5,000
4. 500
5. 500
6. 1,000
7. 200
8. 175
9. 25
10. 100
huisjen
10-10-2003, 10:25 AM
Or, depending on its current condition, it may not be an asset at all, but have a negative value, and entitle you to more of the total combined marital assets. :D
Dan
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