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S/V Sequel
03-27-2002, 02:53 AM
I am gluing up teak alternating with oak pieces for several items on boat. What would be recommended glue to use for this application. Will likely join with biscuits.

Bob Cleek
03-27-2002, 06:04 PM
Forget the biscuits... waste of time.

First choice, Aerodux 500... a gap filling adhesive which is waterproof.

Second choice (distant second) epoxy adhesive with colloidal silica additive. Gap filling, but a poor failure record on both oak and teak.

Carlsboats
03-27-2002, 06:14 PM
Aerodux should work great. While it leaves a visible glue line, as do other resorcinol resin glues, this should not be a problem with a joint where teak meets oak. CARLSBOATS

RGM
03-27-2002, 06:40 PM
Why are you laminating teak and oak together? You're talking white oak not red oak, right? Where do these pieces/items go in your boat? Are these going to be leveling pads for deck hardware or cutting boards for the galley? As the other guys have stated resorcinol is the first choice (read and follow the directions closely). Other than helping with alignment biscuits don't do a whole lot. If your teak and oak items will be not be exposed to the bilge or the great outdoors then consider using a glue that doesn't have to be waterproof. In any case, with teak and oak, wiping your joint surfaces down with acetone wouldn't hurt. If you use epoxy don't starve the joints by driving the epoxy out with too much clamp pressure. Good luck.

Ken Liden
03-27-2002, 11:14 PM
Gorilla glue was designed specifically for teak in the outdoor furniture trade.

signs
03-29-2002, 12:08 PM
GORILLA GLUE IS A VERY GOOD CHOICE, BUT WHATEVER GLUE YOU USE BE SURE TO CLEAN THE WOOD ESPECIALLY THE TEAK WITH ACETONE GOOD LUCK.
PS BOB IS RIGHT BISCUTS ARE A WAIST OF TIME, THEY ADD NO STRENGHT TO THE BOND.

stokeswood
03-30-2002, 05:09 PM
Smith's Tropical Hardwood Glue was designed to work with oily and dense lumber. Stronger than the wood but somewhat flexible to reduce the chance of joint failure.

Roger Cumming
03-31-2002, 09:01 PM
Dear Bob, your recommendation of Aerodux 500 suggests firsthand experience with it, which would interest me greatly. I notice that it is quite a bit more expensive than West epoxy. I'd like to know more about your (and anyone else's) experience with it.

RGM
04-01-2002, 02:25 AM
Since I've thrown my hat into the resorcinol ring, I'll make a response to Roger Cumming's question, Cleek may have hit the rack already. Aerodux is a resorcinol glue. It is waterproof, epoxies are not. Beyond that, success with resorcinols depends on temperature, clamping pressure, mixing components correctly, relatively close tolerances for joints to be glued (some have gap filling capabilities, within reason) and the ability to read and follow the manufacturers directions. Alot of people have a problem with that last one. Epoxies lend themselves to more of a slam bam approach, they aren't as technical, they're more forgiving. Use the search feature located above and to the right, you'll find more discussions about this stuff, I've rambled on enough. Good luck.