Cat or Tri plans

[cs]

In strip construction? Anyone seen such a beast?

Chad

[Wedge9]

What size. etc., etc.?

[cs]

I would like a small trailarable catamerian or tri, I would like strip. Just a thought.

Chad

[Woxbox]

Kurt Hughes has some nice ones that can be done in strip.

[Hwyl]

Dick Newick Tremolino. You can use the hulls and rig from a hobie cat if you want too.

The f'glass moulds are for sale too (with rights) you could set MMike up in business http://www.geocities.com/tremsetters/

[JimConlin]

There are many.
Do you have a size, time commitment or budget figure in mind?

[paladin]

with multihulls weight is a problem....ply is lighter in small sizes...

[chill]

Woods catamarans has a good selection.
www.sailingcatamarans.com

[cs]

Okay I was just thinking since I'm between projects I might need a new project. I'm getting ready to start the Ashley canoe and we are still working on the DragonShip plans. I've finished the weekender and haven't ordered the guitar plans yet, so I need something else to fill my time.

I didn't want to do this in plywood, was thinking about a strip version. I looked at Woods site earlier. I was thinking something along the lines of a hobi.

Chad

[cs]

I like Wood's Pixie, but I would like to do that in cedar strip. Wonder what the weight difference is? Guess I could calculate it now the Michael has trained me in it.

Chad

[Benjicohn]

Since we're on the subject, I've been wondering why I've never seen a good, salty looking catamaran. They always seem to be super-sleek and plastic-y looking. Can anyone prove me wrong? I would love to see a nice, modest looking cat design.

[Wedge9]

Of course, the term "salty" is loaded with subjectivity, but you can check out this interpretation to see if it addresses any of your concerns.

http://proafile.com/view/weblog/comments/fatcat21/

[Thorne]

Good Heavens! That brings to mind someone building an oak-planked, tar & oakum caulked, tanbark-sailed square-rigged catamaran...with gunports and tumblehome.

;0 )

As above, they are weight-sensitive and from a slightly different culture, the Pacific Islanders. The originals were plenty 'salty' in context, just not what Western nautical culture thinks of as the concept...

http://www.wingo.com/proa/micronesia/marshall_isles_proas.jpg

[JimConlin]

You want salty?
Look for the designs of James Wharram or Phil Bolger's 'Double Eagle'

[Woxbox]

I always thought Wharram's designs looked plenty salty.
Here's the link if the file doesn't attach.
http://www.wharram.com/classic_photos/show_photo.php?id=153&start=1&images=12

[garland reese]

Hey Chad,

Selway Fisher has a few plans for some simple and small (around 16 feet) catamarans. Paul can modify most any of his plans to accommodate various building methods, strip sheathed being a very common one that he does. I don't think that the charge for making the changes is very costly. Check them out...... They have designs similar to "Pixie".

[cs]

Garland this is the only cat I found at Selway, or least the only one that said for plywood construction.

http://www.selway-fisher.com/Cat19d1.gif

I was thinking something more along the lines of a hobi.

Chad

[cs]

Emailed Selway and they responded pretty quick that they don't have any cat plans for strip but they could draw me up some. I emailed back asking how much it would cost.

Chad

[cs]

They responded and said £500 Sterling. How much is that in American? I did a quick search and that is about $1700. Does that sound right?

Chad

[Stiletto]

My currecy converter has it at $US924.103c

Google XE.com for a currency converter.

[Hwyl]

This is Richard woods Quattro. It's sheet ply, but still curvy. Better performance than a Hobie.

http://www.sailingcatamarans.com/ASSETS/quatskeg.jpg

He has a bunch of plans here http://www.sailingcatamarans.com/ for less than $60.

I'm going to echo Jim Conlin: What are you looking for --- these seem a long way from "the perfect design".

[garland reese]

Hey Chad,

Yes, I did see that they did not have any cat plans in strip. They do have a few simple plywood cats on their dayboats page under small catamaran dayboats. The Simple Surf Cat looks interesting, but I don't know how it would convert to strip. Usually if Paul already has a ply design, he can do the mold shaping for strip pretty quickly and easily. The quote was a bit more expensive than I thought it might be. Still a pretty good deal for a custom design of sorts.....

I like the Simple, as is....sort of. I think it would be pretty economical to build.

The 5 meter Rodcat catamaran looks like it might be a good possibility too. I think ply could be used for the flat inside hull portion, with strip construction for the rounded shapes of the outer side of the hull. That might be a doable prospect. Did you look at that design?

http://www.selway-fisher.com/Smallcat.htm

[cs]

I like both the surf cat and the rodcat.

I don't know I'm just thinking. The dragonship is still a ways off before we can even think about construction and I need something to build to fill my time.

Chad

[John Bell]

Build a powerboat to make your wife happy. You could make a nice little 15' strip-planked HOPE, designed by Bolger.

[Rick Starr]

I have molds for a woods sango which I'll give you for nothing, if you respond today--they were headed to the dump this afternoon. It's a trailerable 24' cat strip-built, speedy and sexy. Let me know if....

[cs]

That would be nice Rick, but all the way from the Virgin Islands?

Chad

[cs]

The Quattro 16 from Woods looks about what I'm looking for. I wonder if I changed it from S&G to strip if that would work? Do you think it would add too much weight?

http://www.sailingcatamarans.com/ASSETS/quat2trap.jpg

http://www.sailingcatamarans.com/ASSETS/quatcanada1.jpg

Chad

[P.I. Stazzer-Newt]

1. No.
2. Yes.

But that is just my guess - you could contact the man - and he might say different.

[cs]

I've sent him an e-mail.

Chad

[TomF]

Cripes Chad ... how big's your boatshed?:D Between Fred, and the upcoming canoe, not to mention the forum's Dragon ... where are you gonna keep a cat or tri?

[cs]

Tom I guess I will just have to, well I don't know, but it doesn't matter. I'll keep building until the committe kicks me out of the neighborhood.:D

The canoe won't take long to build and I do need something else to do.

Chad

[cs]

Okay, Richard Woods answered back.

No, I'm sorry, the Q16 is only suitable for building in stitch and glue
plywood. It would be difficult to convert to a strip plank boat and you are
right, it would be heavier.

Sorry I can't help you further
Best wishes
Richard Woods

Well I guess I need to look further or re-think.

Chad

[Hwyl]

Nice to see he's back in business after his harrowing incident in the pacific.

[Todd Bradshaw]

Ya' know.... If I was looking for a beach cat, I think I'd go find an old Hobie and fix it up. The hardware costs on multihulls, even beach cats, are a killer, the sails are damned expensive as are the spars and the resale value isn't all that great. Whenever I've toyed with the idea of building a cat, the thing that has stopped me has always been coming to the realization that I'd be damned lucky if it even came close performance-wise to the Hobies I've owned over the years. I still have an old H14 that's pre 1970. I bought it beat up for $300 with trailer and fixed it up for about $200 more. If I wanted to build something similar it would easily cost a minimum of $1200-$1500 or more and probably wouldn't sail as well. I'm all in favor of building your own boat, especially if the end result is better than something you can buy, but the fact that there are so few plans available for beach cats is no accident. With all the old Hobies, Prindles, Nacras, Sol Cats and others that are out there, many of which are pretty darned good boats, scratch-building a cat seems like it might be a real waste of money. If it was something unique, where I couldn't just go out and buy a better one for less money I'd go for it (something like Gary Dierking's Ulua - not a cat or tri, but a neat and unusual boat that is designed for stripping)

http://homepages.paradise.net.nz/garyd/ulua.html

but not a run of the mill beach cat.

[cs]

Thanks Todd. That Ulua does look interesting. I might look some more at that.

Chad